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Albeit inadvertently, I would say Jurgen is in large part to blame for at least Mo and big Virg not being done last year. You’d normally talk with 2 years to go. And that would have been happening in all likelihood. Then the manager announces he’s stepping down the end of the season, with nobody knowing who’ll be in charge next year, and all talks naturally stop. Then when you do replace him, it’s a tournament summer. Big contract negotiations take time.

Trent should never have got to last year though. He should have been extended with 3 to go. That one isn’t too clever.

I think its really naive to think Hughes isn’t working on all the extensions. Just a matter of time.
The other two I agree as age is working against them but Trent in his prime should never have gotten to his last year. I would be worried if it got to Jan when he can sign a pre contract but like I said him leaving for a free would be catastrophic. Lets hope it gets done.
 
Classic Matip. Only announced his retirement because I think a German club tried to sign him and his agent goes his retired mate 😂. One of our best free transfers and a great guy by all accounts.
 


Mad how we've got the two best right full's in the PL.

Congrats Conor and everyone involved in his continued development at L'pool. Becoming your countries youngest ever captain, in only your 20th full international appearance, at 21 years-of-age, is a super special achievement and testament to the maturity far beyond your years you've shown ever since you've been at the football club.
 
Props to Ben Doak also.

Youngest Sottish full debutant in a competitive International since Rangers Willie Johnston in 1965. Another fantastic achievement and development step forward for all concerned. Best Scottish player on the night who ran Gvarduol ragged.

Michael Carrick's had some real positive things to say on Doak's early start at Middlesbrough.

Another encouraging glimse of the future.



 
I dont care that it happens every week and a new team gets shafted every time but the ref whatever his ******* name has to be demoted after that performance. Shocking and im convinced he had money on the game.
 
A weekend where actual football reality made a lot of people look exceptionally silly.

Anyone out there still madly claiming we’ve had an easy start to the season after seeing Arsenal flounder miserably against a ‘perceived’ lesser opponent, from the lower half of the table, we are told L’pool should beat easily? (And they did.).

Anyone out there still thinking winning at Molineaux is an easy ‘given’ after watching Wolves take City all the way yet again?

Anyone out there still claiming L’pool hasn’t played a major side and aren’t SERIOUS contenders to win the Football League again?

If there unbelievably is, real World football reality just isn’t for you.

Yesterdays admin-

Title Countdown:
7 wins down/ 22 to go.
21 points down/ 71 to go.

Current PL unbeaten run:
P 4 W 4 F 8 A 2 CS: 2
4 Straight Wins.

Current unbeaten home PL run:
P 2 W 2 F 5 A 1 CS: 1
2 Straight Wins.

Man did real World football reality take you on the full gambit of emotions yesterday. From waking up bouncing at the thought of going 4 clear of Arsenal. With the enticing and very realistic prospect of ending their title challenge before it’s started with a win next Sunday. Through, like everyone else in the boozer before the Chelsea game, drawn in the longer the match went, glued to the screen of Wolves heroic defensive display. Fooling yourself, yet again, against your better judgement, that City would drop. Only to have them, yet again, s natch that hope away at the last and leave you wondering just how they sucked you in to the madness once more? I proper hate being in a race against them. It’s so emotionally tiring having to be perfect. Its so emotionally demoralising watching a pub totally drawn in and screaming for Wolves. Only to then have to walk on to the ground for our massive game all sombre and crestfallen.

To then, ironically, have an official who was as bad, if not worse, as any in recent memory, ignite a to that point bubbling, simmering atmosphere into a cauldron of angry emotion with his turning down of anything for the double assault on Mo in the 25th minute. That was one ‘You are F messing you! 🤬disgrace too many and was just the inspiration needed to lift the roof in a different way as proper angry football emotion manifested itself to inspire a superbly tactical and patient L’pool home to an absolutely massive win.

Chelsea are a really good side. They should be given the money spent. Certainly the 4th best side in the Country by a distance. And I wouldn’t be surprised to see them topple Arsenal for third this year. They are, like ourselves, young, vibrant and on the up once more. And I found it fascinating from the off how Slot went into a tactical chess grandmaster mode and approached the game totally differently to any other thus far. A very different set-up that happily let Chelsea have possession like they were the home side. But totally negated their star man Palmer by dropping Cody in very narrow and cutting off all supply to him where he could hirt us. With that, and the brilliance of Curtis and Mo in particular figuring them out quickly and exploiting what they left, they barely come close to creating anything to worry us. And his substitutions were superb at just the right time too. Each one enhancing an already excellent display in its own tactical right. ‘A-star’ from Arne. He sent out a message to everyone that he’s prepared, even at home, to come up with a very different game plan for any opposition. And we carried it out superbly for a mammoth statement win.

I loved the whole team performance. I loved the fight every last one of them showed the whole 98 mins. I loved the shape that said to Chelsea break us down if you can? And they couldn’t. I loved that yet again you never felt like we were dropping points. A few standouts who don’t normally get the spotlight for various reasons/ aspects-

Curtis Jones. Worthy man of the match winner. And not just for the super winning goal and winning the peno before that. But for his all round game that was commandingly dominant both ends of the park. That block on Palmer, who he helped take out of the game, first half was goal saving. The complete midfield performance. But then this wasn’t anything out of the norm. More the quintessential Curtis display if you actually watch him closely and don’t pander to the on-line false nonsense about him. Doing the simple things really well and enabling everyone else to play. Never giving it away. Always showing and covering. With an unerring ability to break lines with his front foot passing and arrive late onto things in the box. Proper mad how folk want a patient, controlled possession game under Slot. Yet slam Curtis when he does just that for being too slow! 🤦‍♂️ Utterly mad how under appreciated he continues to be by those who don’t watch him live. Mad how he got taken off late and Dom, who was off it, stayed on. But the deafening applause he got tells you all you need to know about how appreciated Curtis is at the match.

Talking about under appreciated, Trent’s defending was superb yesterday. The way he handled a reborn Sancho first half was a joy to see. Positionally he was exquisite all game. And the way he was pinching the ball without having to tackle time after time totally belied the tired twaddle that he can’t defend. The agenda boys never want to talk about that. But woe betide he makes a mistake. Then theres segment after segment on that. 🤦‍♂️ Trents an integral part of a defence BTW that has conceded just 5 goals through 11 games this season. And just 3 in the league. Outstanding by any metric.

And massive props to Darwin for finally finding his role within Arne’s structure. His hold up and link play was superb. Totally different, like the overall team set-up, to his normal chaos game. But nonetheless as effective. If Jota’s out for a spell, we won’t miss a beat with that version of Darwin.

A really satisfying afternoons work that must have left City coming down with a bump with similar, draining emotions like watching them earlier. Just as they think we’ll drop, we find the perfect tactical change to win again.

Now, a day’s work before Berlin tomorrow and then Leipzig as the massive games keep on coming on this new, yet equally exhilarating, journey we are on once more.

It’s proper S being us aye?

*Sings …..

Lib’pool, Top the League. Lib’pool, Lib’pool TOP the League!!!!!’

UTR!
 
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A great away point at a tough ground and it's been hijacked again by Trent contract talks. I dont know Scouse if you've seen the balon dor interview malarkey but what a train wreck it was from Trent. Lets be honest balon dor is essentially a real madrid or barca best player popularity contest and after Virgil got stiffed in 2019 I and many see it as a farce. I still maintain letting a homegrown scouse born and bred lad go for a free would be a disaster but its not looking good after that disastrous and disrespectful interview IMO.
 
Bar a disgraceful F up the turnies, that was another belter day out with Slots Reds. And an absolutely fantastic result that does us down to the ground.

Yesterdays admin-

Title Countdown:
7 wins down/ 22 to go.
22 points down/ 70 to go.

Current PL unbeaten run:
P 5 W 4 D 1 F 10 A 4 CS: 2

Current unbeaten away PL run:
P 7 W 4 D 3 F 15 A 8 CS: 3

It was blowing my mind reading, going home, how anyone could remotely be unhappy at going to one of the two others teams that are fighting for this league with ourselves, falling behind twice, and still coming away with a superb point that damages Arsenal FAR more than it could L’pool? In case nobody noticed, Arsenal are a very good side. And going the Emirates, which for many years was one of the quietest grounds in the entire league, is one of the hardest aways of the year. Since they’ve got together and got the singing/ flag section in the corner, the atmosphere is markedly better. With a real togetherness among their support. Let’s put it this way- Both Arsenal would have been ecstatic had they done to us, what we did to them yesterday, and taken a point at Anfield coming from behind twice. And City would have been more gutted that we did and Arsenal didn’t hold on for the point they played for. Side note- Is there a more old school Italian ‘catenaccio’ team in the league than them? Built on a water tight defence to soak up and hit on the break. And absolute masters at base S/housery. NO side time wastes from back to front all game more than an Arteta side. He’s like a modern day Morinho.

But we breached that lock of a defence twice. And we were the only side seriously going for the win after Mo’s sensational equaliser. Honestly couldn’t be happier and more buoyant with that result that continues our outstanding season. Leaving us 4 clear of Arsenal, with a plus 5 GD. And a mere point behind City. Also with a positive GD on them.

As for the actual game, that was a funny one with both sides enjoying dominant periods. L’pool were superb up to 1-1. Arsenal then dominated to HT and grabbed what could have been a killer blow lead going into the break. That rolled over to the first 5/10 of the second half. Then L’pool regained total control that lead to a thoroughly deserved equaliser. And they were the one team seriously pushing for the winner after. Not our best performance of the year by any means. But far from the negative one as it has laughably been made out to be by many. That was a really good away performance, on a top rivals ground, that wins you titles. And I loved the physicality, especially second half, to stand up and hit Arsenal harder first. We are a big, strong side and its great to see us using that as a weapon along with our superior technical ability.

The only downside, the continually abysmal Anthony Taylor aside, was a good mate not getting in on the spurious claim his ticket had already been used 10 mins before! 🤷🏼‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Whether that was Arsenal or L’pool’s F up remains to be determined. (Each NFC ticket has an individual code. So if it was used, they’ve F up the codes.). But the fact neither Arsenal nor our stewards could sort it out was a farcical disgrace. And the L’pool steward who said ‘It’s not our issue. You bought if off Arsenal’ had to be heard to be believed. Arrogant C! 🤬 No dipS! He bought it off you. And you are paid by the club to be a liaison at aways to sort things when they go wrong! The end result was he didn’t get in the ground. So at the very least he should get his money back. But thats not the point and a good friend who’s heavily involved with both the Union, alomg with her being a fan liaison with the club, will be taking this up with them and Dutton today. Never had this issue with paper tickets. But going to ‘phone technology is supposed to be progress right? 🤦‍♂️🤬

Anyway, at least the mighty Reds made it a boss train home for him and everyone else as they continue their almost perfect assault on absolutely everything!

UTR!
 

I hate missing a game. But missing my first of the season, down at Brighton on a Wednesday night, probably isn’t a bad one to miss.

8 changes. And bar Morton and maybe Jaros, that;s a really strong side that wouldn’t look out of place at the majority of PL clubs. Not bad for a club with no depth huh? 🤷🏼‍♂️🤦‍♂️

I’ll never understand anyone wanting their team to lose a game of football. As I’ve been reading earlier on SM from so-called Reds. Not only is it a proper weird way to support (term used VERY loosely) your side. But it’s beyond disingenuous to the 3k Reds who are supporting the side down at Brighton. The longer we continue our defence of our trophy the better.

Straight into these soft Southern bleeps Redmen!
 
Get the bleep in Redmen! 🕺🕺

Todays admin-

Current total game unbeaten run:
P 10 W 9 D 1 F 24 A 8 CS: 4
1 Straight Win.

Current unbeaten away total games run:
P 10 W 7 D 3 F 22 A 11 CS: 4
1 Straight Win.

2nd test in our League Cup defence passed with flying colours. Again! ✅

That, unfortunately for anyone that madly doesn’t care about one of only three trophies you can win in England every year, and what a large part of your football clubs success was built on, was an outstanding, old school, end-to-end cup tie. With an excellent end result to yet another excellent Reds display.

To make 8 changes, going to Brighton, one of the trickiest teams to play given they set up so un-typical to most sides, and come through in such fashion was a joy to watch. Cody will get all the headlines for his two sumptuous strikes. (Although what he was doing the 3 on 1 break with a mess of a ball to Dominic we won’t go into haha.). But, along with full commitment and work rate from everyone else, a special shout out should go to Jaros on his full-debut. The save at 0-0 from Lamptey was good enough. But the second he tipped onto the post, going the wrong way, at 1-0, that ultimately secured the win, was outstanding. Seriously, the goalkeeping school we have going on at Anfield is a terrific production line of excellent goalies. Take a MASSIVE bow r big Czech mate.

I’m not the best watcher of a game when I aren’t there but that was a really enjoyable, relaxed watch where yet again you weren’t concerned at all that we wouldn’t come out on top. Arne’s Reds are getting stronger and stronger by the passing game as they seriously go all out for everything on offer.

Roll on Sat’day to do it all over again.

All that remains is a home Cup draw or an away not down South on a Wednesday night please football Gods. 🤞🏻🤞🏻

Up the ‘In it to win it ALL’ Reds!
 
Southampton away. 🤦‍♂️ Utter bleeping bleep! 🤬

We couldn't have asked for a worse draw.🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

That's two straight rounds where the draw has absolutely deflated you after a brilliant win. ☹️

Southampton and Tottenham away before Christmas.

*****! 🤬🤬
 
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With a struggling Arsenal at Newcastle, and a seriously depleted City at Bournemouth, this could be a pivotal day already in the 2024-2025 PL race. If the three teams weren't already, they are all now in 'must win' mode.

I say this every time we play them. Albion are one of the hardest sides we play. As they are so unorthodox in what they do they take you out of your comfort zone, make you constantly think as they swarm at you, often over loading from mad positions. With constantly rotating mad formations through the game as they seamlessly ebb and flow to what the game gives them. Breaking on you as fast as any side in the league. And they never, ever, stop grafting.

Always a tricky outing this. Which made the midweek win with all the changes even better. But ultimately, we have far better footballers and are playing at home. Match them for effort and intensity and Slot will take his English top flight historical best ever managerial start to a majestic 13 wins from 15 games.
 
With a struggling Arsenal at Newcastle, and a seriously depleted City at Bournemouth, this could be a pivotal day already in the 2024-2025 PL race. If the three teams weren't already, they are all now in 'must win' mode.

I say this every time we play them. Albion are one of the hardest sides we play. As they are so unorthodox in what they do they take you out of your comfort zone, make you constantly think as they swarm at you, often over loading from mad positions. With constantly rotating mad formations through the game as they seamlessly ebb and flow to what the game gives them. Breaking on you as fast as any side in the league. And they never, ever, stop grafting.

Always a tricky outing this. Which made the midweek win with all the changes even better. But ultimately, we have far better footballers and are playing at home. Match them for effort and intensity and Slot will take his English top flight historical best ever managerial start to a majestic 13 wins from 15 games.
Have we played a good team yet? Im still waiting :sneaky: 🤷‍♂️
 
As mooted before the game, yesterday could be an absolutely pivotal day in this year’s title race. And so it proved with only one team, as they have 8 times out of 10 already, understanding that we are now in ‘MUST win’ mode again. And finding a way to do just that.

Lib’pool, Top the League. Lib’pool, Lib’pool TOP the League!’

Yesterday’s admin-

Title Countdown:
8 wins down/ 21 to go.
25 points down/ 67 to go.

Current PL unbeaten run:
P 6 W 5 D 1 F 12 A 5 CS: 2
1 Straight Win.

Current unbeaten home PL run:
P 3 W 3 F 7 A 2 CS: 1
3 Straight Wins.

I wrote yesterday morning how Brighton are one of the hardest sides we play every year down to them being so unorthodox. And yesterday was no exception. The preverbal game of two halves that ended with an absolutely mammoth Liverpool win that felt like the win at Villa in Jurgen’s championship season with the other two messing up. Brighton were absolutely superb the first half. It’s easy to criticise L’pool for a slow start. And make no mistake we were poor. But you have to tip your hat and acknowledge just how good Brighton were the first 45. Physically dominating us right across the pitch. First to everything in a relentless press of boundless energy. Like we did with Cole Palmer the last time out in the league at Anfield, they’d clearly identified Ryan as being key and swarmed him with three or four men every time he had the ball. They swamped the middle, suffocated us so we couldn’t play out, scored one outstanding goal. And but for an excellent Kelleher stop, you’d of had no complaints if they’d have gone in at the break 2-0 up. For a neutral, as they have been under successive managers now, such, like ourselves, is there rock solid club structure to allow seamless continuity, they are an absolute pleasure to watch. A real credit to everything going on down there on and off the pitch.

But football isn’t played over 45 minutes.

And our Dutch Meister is a tactically savvy fella’ in his own right who could see the space Brighton’s narrow approach was leaving in-behind on the wings. We start better. But we’re still lacking in midfield and up front. And then he creates the spark that set Anfield alight. Gomez had already been superb in replacing Konate and boxing off the back end whilst driving us forward. But the spark comes from Slot in the double Curtis and Lucho subs. Midfield control regained. Attacking threat at pace there again. And Anfield responds. Oh boy do we respond! The spark has been lit and the intensity in the stands begins to rise. Knowing how pivotal a day this could be. Then Nunez ducks under Gakpo’s wicked cross and it goes OFF! Not just on the Kop. But the whole place. Like ALL 4 stands become a whirling cauldron of aggressive, pulsating noise. And Brighton wilt under it. And when everything’s rocking and rolling at the highest possible level, that's when the Worlds elite players step up and become unplayable. Mo was absolutely outstanding that last half hour and his Worldie winner was just the cherry on the top. Now passing the most natural goal scorer I’ve ever seen live in Red, Robbie Fowler, into 8th all time on the PL top scorer list with Henry now firmly in his sights. The noise and connection between them and us that last half hour was spine-tingling to be a part of. Not easy by any means. Brighton still carried a threat. But another perfect change with Endo boxing another superb win saw us home.

Keep telling us we’ve played nobody. Keep telling us we aren’t playing well. Keep laughing at those of us this past summer who said our squad, if healthy, is better and deeper in top quality than anyone else’s and we were ready to be serious title challengers again.

For your 2024-25 Liverpool Football Club vintage are well and truly on the march. FULLY believing they are what the table home and abroad suggests they are. The very best out there with a beyond magnificent 13 wins from 15 games under a new coaching regime change for the first time in 8 and a half years. **** like this just doesn't happen so quickly. But it is. And we're relishing the ride once more.

Is it the Alonso love in already and the next instalment of a wild Anfield rocking like only we can?

Up the best in class Reds!
 
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Whilst I remember, the other great thing yesterday was to see the 'Stop Exploiting Loyalty' campaign before the game. With Brighton fans happily voicing their support as this concerns every supporter in the land.

This has steadily grown from the SOS pushing it to a Nationwide campaign with more and more fanbases/ supporters organisations getting on board with the SOS/ FSA, and saying 'Enough is ENOUGH!' at the the very worrying direction of travel the game is going again with already massively over inflation tickets starting to rise again the last few years/ the growing number of clubs doing away with concession prices et al.

Football clubs need to take serious note of the growing groundswell of dissatisfaction right across the Country at supporters being exploited and pushed too far. It will be really interesting to see the effect of the new Government football regulator which only strengthens supporters hands.

Clubs are in a very tricky position and need to sit down and talk and listen as the togetherness growing Nationwide is a very powerful thing when everyone is pulling in the same direction.

Unity is Strength and without us there is NO game.
 
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