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Just curious, why would they not be interested in reporting them? Pushing the pressure onto another club seems ideal.. I think the point is that these 'release clauses' are common knowledge. Otherwise what is the point of a minimum fee release clause, or any such clause, because nobody is going to actually know about it until they put a speculative bid in above that clause.

I think the 40m bid has worked out pretty well for Arsenal, they've forced Liverpool onto the back foot by forcing Suarez to train alone, they've tested what the club would be willing to sell for, they've found out about the contract and the player's interest in moving and have sated their fans by showing they can bid for players of that level and quality - whereas very few actually wanted to sign Suarez due to his baggage anyway. In fact the owner of the entire club had to fly in to Liverpool to actually sort this out and start throwing out some heavy hitting quotes, while Rodgers does his usual myriad evocations of Shankly which he seems to roll out as he knows the fans love it. Wenger seems more interested in the first XI he has right now with a few squad recruits in the background, and this seems a decent distraction with it rumbling for several weeks in the transfer market. I wouldn't be surprised if they made another bid just to test how Suarez will react with the fee increased close to the Liverpool valuation.

I do find it hilarious that even though Arsenal clearly have a lot of money to spend this summer, Wenger is just a little bit unhappy with this side of football and finds it a sour taste in his mouth, and just signs a young Frenchman on a free instead... If that isn't two fingers up then what is.
 
They knew about the contract before the bid which is why they put in the extra £1.
They've just managed to unsettle and already unsettled player and did it by essentially going behind Liverpools back and dealing with the player and his agent before the club. I don't see an increased offer doing much unless it comes close to what the club are demanding.

It's nothing new in football, probably why no one is bothered about reporting it.
 
Arsenal kind of shot themselves in the foot with the £40M and £1 bid... all it would do is make the Liverpool owners even more determined not to sell, especially to Arsenal as its almost seen as 'taking the ****'
 
It was the lowest bid possible to activate any clause. It sounds like a funny number, but it was a dead serious move to clear up what the clause meant at the time. John W Henry seems to have entirely missed what they were doing.
 
LFCMarshall said:
Arsenal are quite lucky Liverpool are not interested in reporting them... The one big problem in all of this is Pere Guardola, Luis' agent has got everything wrong so far, all the information he leaked to Arsenal has been all incorrect, Arsenal have been made look foolish with that 40mil and £1 bid. As Henry said:

"How does a club who doesn't have permission to speak with your player see his contract? It should have been confidential," Henry said. "Unfortunately it's the way it works in football. People don't speak about it publicly but that's the way it's run. It's how things are done. I don't think there's a point because it just seems to happen everywhere. It's rotten."
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Haha he's one to talk after last summers transfer mess with Dempsey.
 
Mike. said:
It was the lowest bid possible to activate any clause. It sounds like a funny number, but it was a dead serious move to clear up what the clause meant at the time. John W Henry seems to have entirely missed what they were doing.
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I think its clear what they were doing, its just the cheek of it.. not the best way to go about things when trying to buy a player off a club IMO
 
Quasit said:
Haha he's one to talk after last summers transfer mess with Dempsey.
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that was nothing to do with us knowing his contract though, we never did anything against the rules

We publicly announced our interest. The only thing that was wrong was when Sports direct reported we had signed him, but anybody could have gave them that information
 
LFCMarshall said:
That i'm not sure of. Just the adding £1 to activate a clause that Suarez' agent has got wrong will only irritate the man you are trying to negotiate with
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Seems pretty logical. If they are insufficiently supplied with information that they are given, then what else are they to go by? You can only take what you are given and, in this case, they were given information that supported their bid.
 
iNickStuff said:
Seems pretty logical. If they are insufficiently supplied with information that they are given, then what else are they to go by? You can only take what you are given and, in this case, they were given information that supported their bid.
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Perfectly viable from an Arsenal point.. Just not going to go down very well with the Liverpool owners considering, 1. Arsenal shouldn't even know about the clause and 2. It's quite cheeky to add £1 to a previous bid
 
LFCMarshall said:
Perfectly viable from an Arsenal point.. Just not going to go down very well with the Liverpool owners considering, 1. Arsenal shouldn't even know about the clause and 2. It's quite cheeky to add £1 to a previous bid
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We've only made two bids. 1st was somewhere around 35m and second one 40m + 1.

Every club are in contact with players agents... You can't really be surprised about it.
 
LFCMarshall said:
That i'm not sure of. Just the adding £1 to activate a clause that Suarez' agent has got wrong will only irritate the man you are trying to negotiate with
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That's the whole point. Arsenal didnt know exactly what the clause was. All very well saying its wrong, but Arsenal didnt know, and needed to find out, hence the bid.
 
LFCMarshall said:
Perfectly viable from an Arsenal point.. Just not going to go down very well with the Liverpool owners considering, 1. Arsenal shouldn't even know about the clause and 2. It's quite cheeky to add £1 to a previous bid
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It's not really that cheeky. If anything, it's the cleverest thing to do with what they were told.
 
It's not cheeky by Arsenal to bid that it's common sense as they were in a position where they were not fully clued up about Suarez's clauses in his contract - did you think it would be better if they offered £41M? pointless
 
They should have offered what he's worth and nit be penny pinchers like usual, they shoud have looked at falcao and cavani and said yeah, suarez is as good as them and then offered 50million, not be cheeky and say we'll try and rip lfc off just for the fun off it, but then im not a greedy person so, sell him for 40mill,give him what he wants, spend 15 on that greek tank defender kyriakos or something, defence sorted, 25 left, spend that on lavezzi of psg who mightnt get as much playing time cause psg got loads of strikers, not bad then, as long as they dont sell him for 50 then buy some donkey forr 35 lol

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Arsenal had every right to offer what they did...

All I am saying if I was the owner I would find it pretty insulting offer a £1 on the top to activate a clause thy shouldn't have known about... Seems John Henry feels exactly the same
 
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