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Scouseinthehouse said:
You started out at 'World class' then steadily backtracked from there.
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My exact words we're, "Sterling is pretty much the only Liverpool player that looks like he would be guaranteed world class". There's a difference between would and is. Why would I backtrack on a statement if I believed it?
 
Raheem Sterling has done nothing wrong here, except from a lack of clarity from his agent. He was the best player and Liverpool and vastly underpaid in comparison to other Liverpool players. He's also ambitious and wants to win trophies, therefore he wants to leave. There's an excellent article comparing Sterling to top attacking midfielders at Sterling's age and they are comparable to the very best. He's won the European Golden Boy award and many managers have spoken about him in high regard. There's every reason to believe that City aren't overpaying.

How does Raheem Sterling score against Ronaldo and Messi at 20? | Sean Ingle | Football | The Guardian

Sterling's agent was unclear as to why he didn't sign a new contract. Firstly, it was about being underpaid, then he wouldn't stay no matter the wage. In the end it was about money and ambition. Rodgers and Liverpool then let their disrespectful bully boy tactics in full force. Firstly, they offered him no protection fro the media and used this to their advantage. Rodgers revealed details of the private negotiations, stating that it was a 'great deal' for Sterling, knowing that he would face the full brunt of the media for rejecting. After he rejected nearly everyone affiliated to Liverpool attacked him will full force and the mainstream media then professed about how 'selfish and greedy' he was, at which Liverpool offered no protection. After Sterling called in sick twice, it somehow 'leaked' that he called in sick and the mainstream media we're quick to criticise him for 'rejecting to attend training'.

Later on, Sterling said that he didn't want to attend the pre-season tour. As far as I'm concerned, want and won't are two different words. The BBC reported that Sterling reported back for pre-season in the end, but Liverpool decided not to take him last-minute due to his pending move to City, so as far as I'm concerned, Sterling has followed what he's contractually and morally obliged to. It's Liverpool that are mainly on the wrong here. Lessons should be learned.
 
damola3 said:
Raheem Sterling has done nothing wrong here, except from a lack of clarity from his agent. He was the best player and Liverpool and vastly underpaid in comparison to other Liverpool players. He's also ambitious and wants to win trophies, therefore he wants to leave. There's an excellent article comparing Sterling to top attacking midfielders at Sterling's age and they are comparable to the very best. He's won the European Golden Boy award and many managers have spoken about him in high regard. There's every reason to believe that City aren't overpaying.

How does Raheem Sterling score against Ronaldo and Messi at 20? | Sean Ingle | Football | The Guardian

Sterling's agent was unclear as to why he didn't sign a new contract. Firstly, it was about being underpaid, then he wouldn't stay no matter the wage. In the end it was about money and ambition. Rodgers and Liverpool then let their disrespectful bully boy tactics in full force. Firstly, they offered him no protection fro the media and used this to their advantage. Rodgers revealed details of the private negotiations, stating that it was a 'great deal' for Sterling, knowing that he would face the full brunt of the media for rejecting. After he rejected nearly everyone affiliated to Liverpool attacked him will full force and the mainstream media then professed about how 'selfish and greedy' he was, at which Liverpool offered no protection. After Sterling called in sick twice, it somehow 'leaked' that he called in sick and the mainstream media we're quick to criticise him for 'rejecting to attend training'.

Later on, Sterling said that he didn't want to attend the pre-season tour. As far as I'm concerned, want and won't are two different words. The BBC reported that Sterling reported back for pre-season in the end, but Liverpool decided not to take him last-minute due to his pending move to City, so as far as I'm concerned, Sterling has followed what he's contractually and morally obliged to. It's Liverpool that are mainly on the wrong here. Lessons should be learned.
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He left to win trophies end off, nothing wrong with that. The problem was the way he left that was unneeded he wasnt helped by his agent. But it is what it is. In terms of sterlings progression for those going he wont play i doubt city will play 50 mill for a bench player and secondly his competition is navas im sure he can dislodge him.

For those dissing his stats look at this way, he is 20 years old ffs no 20 yr old is going to be consistant you will expect them to go through periods of being awful and periods of being excellent.

Im not going to go into the bully tactics imposed by the club as some posters here only seem to be looking at this from one point of view so there is really no point.
 
Both sides are in the wrong here. Let's not pretend that Liverpool haven't used their cocksuckers in the media to pressurize and bully Sterling. They also massively ****** up by not tying him down to a new contract early on and making him feel valued. On Sterling's part, his agent has behaved terribly and completely disrespected the club and manager. All in all, everyone associated with LFC should breathe a sigh of relief that this relationship is about to end
 
LFCMarshall said:
Yep, Damola3 is definitely related to Raheem in some way
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He's apparently not the only one but people are gonna' believe what they're gonna' believe regardless of everything to the contrary so let them be blissfully ignorant.

Mercifully he's no longer our headache.
 
Rejects £100k a week at Liverpool

"I am not a money grabbing 20 year old"

Joins City for £200k a week. Oh the irony
 
Be nice if we now took the £40 million FSG did fantastically to hold out for and strengthened the most vulnerable areas of the side. (GK and CF.).
 
So, on the eve of our first pre-season game, I'm still at one of the lowest and most apathetic points I've ever been going into a season with little expectation of it being much different to last.

I'm very happy with the transfer dealings, in and out. They actually seem genuine Rogers signings this time out as opposed to last. And to top it off by sticking to their guns and getting the £40 million for Sterling is to FSG's great credit. But we've still (thus far) failed to address our two most vulnerable areas. Goalkeeper and CF. (Ings I view as more one for the future. Happy as I am with the pick-up.). Although I fully expect Benteke to arrive this week now, I think it will be another terrible striker outlay and won't solve that vulnerability up front without Daniel to any great degree.

The team on paper looks stronger. But then with the way the manager has a want for playing guys completely out of position, and standing by those that don't deserve to be stood by; it's hard to get too excited as you look what it might or might not be. And **** knows what new and inventive formation we'll open with at Stoke.

The captaincy is a complete mistake to me and Henderson's 'leadership' will be exposed dramatically now Gerrard isn't here. And without Gerrard and the massive void his presence leaves; strong leadership is what we'll need more than ever this season.

I still have little to no faith in the manager and honestly don't see how he's going to win back a dressing room that patently both stopped playing for him the run-in last year, and tried their damnedest (to their and every last one of us detriment and disgrace) to get him sacked. The 'additions' to the the first team coaching staff don't do much for optimism there either.

I'm fully expecting him to be gone by Chrimbo, and this season to potentially be a bigger cluster**** than last.

The run of horrendous away fixtures don't help matters either. And if we start off with a defeat at Stoke after the last day of last year the pressure will be intolerable on all concerned.

I hope and pray I'm completely wrong. But regardless of the apathy, I'll be back this year like I have the past 33. I've been through the highest of highs and the lowest of lows that nobody should ever have to experience with this football club. And the club has always been there through it all. Going well above and beyond for the community in those dark times. It sounds flip, but Liverpool FC really is more than a club to the community it serves.

We are Liverpool! And starting tomorrow, we go again .....
 
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Jerome Sinclair turns down our contract offer and asks to leave the club.. Shame. He could have turned out a good player
 
Think Sinclair is crazy to want to leave. Probably frustration at not getting his chance in the first team, especially with our other strikers poor goal scoring records this season. But I can't imagine any prem clubs playing him, without any expereince, whereas staying he's surely not far off breaking through, judging by the few cameos he made at the end of the season
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Be nice if we now took the £40 million FSG did fantastically to hold out for and strengthened the most vulnerable areas of the side. (GK and CF.).
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Kind of makes me want to start a new save on Marshall's update but give myself an extra 40 million.
 
Tuitfio said:
Think Sinclair is crazy to want to leave. Probably frustration at not getting his chance in the first team, especially with our other strikers poor goal scoring records this season. But I can't imagine any prem clubs playing him, without any expereince, whereas staying he's surely not far off breaking through, judging by the few cameos he made at the end of the season
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Depends where he's going I 'spose. And by the sound of it he's something lined up.

If he's thinking he's got Sturridge (if he EVER gets healthy), Ings and (hopefully) another top forward to get past; or he can really kick start his pro career by playing regularly somewhere then fair play to him.

Can't knock a guy for wanting to play.
 
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