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At least we drawn against this man

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At least we drawn against this man .....

Pretty sure he's keeping Newcastle up now.

Palace the next home game and Villa away could well be enough.

Which is all to our detriment as they are utter ***** and they've now taken 4 points off us this season.
 
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Pretty sure he's keeping Newcastle up now.

Palace the next home game and Villa away could well be enough.

Which is all to our detriment as they are utter ***** and they've now taken 4 points off us this season.

Result might work in your favour. Will get everyone's head screwed on post Dortmund and Everton for the Villarreal game, play like today and they will put 4 past you. Could be a good refocus to double down and make sure you play like you did second leg against Dortmund for the rest of the season
 
Result might work in your favour. Will get everyone's head screwed on post Dortmund and Everton for the Villarreal game, play like today and they will put 4 past you. Could be a good refocus to double down and make sure you play like you did second leg against Dortmund for the rest of the season

Point. And taking that on further, I'd say it was two fold.

Short term, it refocuses everyone who took their foot off the gas yesterday like you mentioned.

And long term, it reminds everyone just how far there still is to go. Not least with this sub-standard group who's inconsistency's are glaring and real frustrating. On their day, when everything clicks like he's trying to drum into them, they can not only beat but play anyone off the park. But then they turn around and you get ridiculous days like yesterday. That's three times in the last three months (H. Sunderland and A. Southampton) that we've let a 2 goal lead slip. That's not a 'blip' as Lallana said post match yesterday. That's a big problem and completely unacceptable. There's just no leaders in the side to pull everyone together and see out games like that.

We've come a LONG way under Klopp in a ridiculously short space of time. Made even better to his credit by this being such an average squad in many positions that he has to work with.

But until he get's his own, better players in, days like yesterday, of which they have at least one a month in them most every month this year, serve to remind you just how far there still is to go.
 
The more you think on the Sakho thing the more your mind wonders. As much as it shouldn't as he's not been formally charged with anything as yet.

Pretty common knowledge in sports that fat burning supplements are often used to mask PED use. And with his build you wouldn't think he would need anything to aid loosing weight. Then you look at some of the wild, crazy expression's he pulls through games .....

You shouldn't, but I hope to **** it's not worse than what's been rumoured.
 
The more you think on the Sakho thing the more your mind wonders. As much as it shouldn't as he's not been formally charged with anything as yet.

Pretty common knowledge in sports that fat burning supplements are often used to mask PED use. And with his build you wouldn't think he would need anything to aid loosing weight. Then you look at some of the wild, crazy expression's he pulls through games .....


You shouldn't, but I hope to **** it's not worse than what's been rumoured.


problem is stuff like this are normally a case of just how long the ban hes getting because the tests don't lie unfortunately. if toure got 6 months then cant see any reason why he wouldnt get the same
 
problem is stuff like this are normally a case of just how long the ban hes getting because the tests don't lie unfortunately. if toure got 6 months then cant see any reason why he wouldnt get the same

That's what we need to hope for best case mate by all accounts.

Be interesting to see the manager's views on this if/ when he's officially charged/ banned and it all comes out and whether he has a future here.
 
I haven't read into it much. What type of fat burner was it? Like a supplement? Wasn't Tren was it..
 
They will probably ask for a blood test and if that comes up positive. He will be in grave trouble. If he knowingly took banned substances then expect the club to probably release him. I personally think it's just the kolo toure case all over again.
 
They will probably ask for a blood test and if that comes up positive. He will be in grave trouble. If he knowingly took banned substances then expect the club to probably release him. I personally think it's just the kolo toure case all over again.

Yup. We're the only losers here. Let's say hypothetically he gets a years ban. He's hardly losing a career. The football club on the other hand ..... We cancel his contract and release him, we let a £15/20 million player walk. We stick by him, we're paying him a year for nothing.
 
Row 1 for Villareal. Lower centenary near the kop. Let's ******* have it.
 
Jury's reached a verdict.

Announcement tomorrow at 11 AM.

Let's pray they do the right thing on all counts.
 
well thats all you can do at the mo bro

Pretty much ta. Might well not be in a good place tomorrow regardless. Feeling pretty hollow right now. It'll be a long day.


In other news, the Danny Ings tribunal also sits tomorrow in Manchester so we'll (hopefully if they reach agreement quick) finally know how much he's gonna' cost. It's apparently taken this long down to Burnley preparing the biggest ever player tribunal counter claim of upwards of 500 pages. Burnley are pushing for £10 million. L'pool value him closer at £ 6 mill.
 
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Wonder how many drug test there are done. It is not done so often in football? Havent heard any mayor news about famous players.

Not many and not rigorous enough to catch them all.


Btw few famous players were caught though, Maradona, Pep,. Frank de Boer, Mutu, Rio (missed drug test), Stam, Couto. There are many though but it's not enough.
 
Philippe Coutinho named in Europe's Under-23s team of the season - Liverpool Echo

Phil named in France Football's European Under-23 team of the year. The respected publications best under-23 performers around Europe this past year.

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Not sure I'd agree like. Talent wise there's no question he's more than worthy of a place. But overall it's been stop/ start for him this year as strong as he's now come on over the past few months. But then you could say the same for one or two other notable players there so I guess they take the dips at this age into account.
 
Pretty much ta. Might well not be in a good place tomorrow regardless. Feeling pretty hollow right now. It'll be a long day.


In other news, the Danny Ings tribunal also sits tomorrow in Manchester so we'll (hopefully if they reach agreement quick) finally know how much he's gonna' cost. It's apparently taken this long down to Burnley preparing the biggest ever player tribunal counter claim of upwards of 500 pages. Burnley are pushing for £10 million. L'pool value him closer at £ 6 mill.

Stay strong mate.
 
Finally the truth. But took far, far too long. It's been an absolute disgrace it's taken this long, and sickening disgrace with what the press did along with the smearing. 27 years is an absolute disgrace.
 
Finally. I can only imagine how much this means to those of you who were directly affected by the disaster. Justice at last
 
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