The Manchester United Thread

Jesus christ you still havent figured it out. Its not about rating, its about adding more the discussion than just "lets find some randoms from south america like its FM" take that nonsense elsewhere
Balanta,doria,Dede. All proved good signings for me. Maybe sign all 3 and go back to playing wingbacks.
 
Jesus christ you still havent figured it out. Its not about rating, its about adding more the discussion than just "lets find some randoms from south america like its FM" take that nonsense elsewhere

Well that was clearly just a point i was making that it's a very very good posibility there are defenders around the world better than what we have, but hey just a thought.

That silly go play fm or this isn't fm are as bad as my points and opinions.
 
Jones,Evans and Smalling arnt good enough for more than 1 reason. The biggest reason they all have in common. They have injury proness 20.
 
Jones,Evans and Smalling arnt good enough for more than 1 reason. The biggest reason they all have in common. They have injury proness 20.

When LVG sells one or two of them all the lads slagging me off for not rating them will jump the wagon like all the fans that rated cleverley when he was here.
 
There are hardly any world class CBs

That's the real issue here. There just aren't enough world class defenders to go around. Even the top clubs in best leagues seem to be struggling to find competent players. ******* David Luiz went for 50 milion $, and the guy can't even defend. That's how bad things have gotten.

Not sure if its just less talented generation, or maybe its caused by a change in how players are being trained. But the quality of defensive play took a nosedive in last couple of seasons. Kompany or Thiago Silva are closest thing the world has to CB superstars, but 10 years ago they wouldn't make it past the bench in any of the top clubs.
 
No one is seriously arguing that you couldn't get hold of better centrebacks than Jones and Smalling, right? Admittedly those players won't be good enough in the long run, and the former still has the potential to become a great defender, but you needed a stopgap this year. You could have bought good, solid players at a relatively high cost and helped to ensure top 4 again. You'd most likely be dropping them to squad players within a year or two, but it doesn't matter because what's vital is getting CL football so you can attract premium players again. It's an expensive option but let's not pretend it didn't exist and United weren't in a position to try it.
 
Well that was clearly just a point i was making that it's a very very good posibility there are defenders around the world better than what we have, but hey just a thought.

That silly go play fm or this isn't fm are as bad as my points and opinions.


But valid. You dont think our scouts are not looking? We had a scout at the Marseille game looking a couple of defenders.

It's not as simple as you seem to think
 
No one is seriously arguing that you couldn't get hold of better centrebacks than Jones and Smalling, right? Admittedly those players won't be good enough in the long run, and the former still has the potential to become a great defender, but you needed a stopgap this year. You could have bought good, solid players at a relatively high cost and helped to ensure top 4 again. You'd most likely be dropping them to squad players within a year or two, but it doesn't matter because what's vital is getting CL football so you can attract premium players again. It's an expensive option but let's not pretend it didn't exist and United weren't in a position to try it.

They went for the top shelf, didnt get it, went for TV, didnt get it, now are looking again for Jan
 
But valid. You dont think our scouts are not looking? We had a scout at the Marseille game looking a couple of defenders.

It's not as simple as you seem to think


Don't think i've claimed it to be simple, not even sure i've went into detail on who we should sign all i've really stated is i don't rate our current cb's and could do with another rb.

I've threw the we could look in eastern europe comment but was just more saying that there should be plenty out there that could do well for us and i'm sure the manager and scouts know this which again i've never knocked LVG.
 
They went for the top shelf, didnt get it, went for TV, didnt get it, now are looking again for Jan

And therein lies the issue really. Saying "well we tried" isn't good enough when you're chasing unrealistic targets. If I remember correctly, this thread slaughtered Moyes for doing it.
 
And therein lies the issue really. Saying "well we tried" isn't good enough when you're chasing unrealistic targets. If I remember correctly, this thread slaughtered Moyes for doing it.

TV was pretty realistic, and we signed one defender. Plans unravelled with evans and jones picking up more injuries rather than less, hence going back in jan.
 
Don't think i've claimed it to be simple, not even sure i've went into detail on who we should sign all i've really stated is i don't rate our current cb's and could do with another rb.

I've threw the we could look in eastern europe comment but was just more saying that there should be plenty out there that could do well for us and i'm sure the manager and scouts know this which again i've never knocked LVG.

And they are not going to arrive until Jan at earliest, so why keep going on about it. The current lot arent even playing at their best, and thats what needs to be address.
 
And they are not going to arrive until Jan at earliest, so why keep going on about it. The current lot arent even playing at their best, and thats what needs to be address.

Need to keep them fit first which is near impossible it seems, well i'm sorry i won't bother having an opinion on any players unless it's a good one.
 
They must spar after training sessions with all these injuries or just kick lumps out of each other it's not all badluck.
 
TV was pretty realistic, and we signed one defender. Plans unravelled with evans and jones picking up more injuries rather than less, hence going back in jan.

TV was pretty realistic, but you knew that plan was going south with plenty of time to spare. You knew you would be left with Smalling, Evans and Jones as your centrebacks and it looks like you decided to wing it. Surely that's a serious error in judgement?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think you guys are really in that much trouble. You played well today, and you could easily make top 4. The thing is though, when this season started so many people were denying that the club had made any mistakes in the transfer window and the flaws in that line of thinking are being pretty brutally exposed. The slip ups are understandable but they still happened.
 
TV was pretty realistic, but you knew that plan was going south with plenty of time to spare. You knew you would be left with Smalling, Evans and Jones as your centrebacks and it looks like you decided to wing it. Surely that's a serious error in judgement?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think you guys are really in that much trouble. You played well today, and you could easily make top 4. The thing is though, when this season started so many people were denying that the club had made any mistakes in the transfer window and the flaws in that line of thinking are being pretty brutally exposed. The slip ups are understandable but they still happened.

They genuinely thought injuries were behind them, but still wanted that one experienced good defender. Now I think we are looking for two defenders, one top level. Think they planned to get through to Jan, but they werent ready for more injuries than ever, (didnt think it was possible tbh)

I'm not sure who said there were no mistakes. It was a good window that didnt cover everything. It was always unlikely to do so.
 
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