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What a load of **** today. Rvp, falcao and di Maria were very poor. Lost count how many times di Maria bottled a challenge. I could've marked our strikers today, static!!!!! Valencias idea of a cross is to put head down and drill it. Look up and pick a man for gods sake. Need to drop rvp and falcao and give Wilson a prolonged run in the team. With his pace and movement our players get then play forward passes behind their defence. Rooney tucked in behind with blind and carrick ( when fit )/fellani in the middle, di Maria left, Valencia right, that the pace sorted. McNair rb, Jones rojo, shaw lb.
 
I think United fans looking at getting 2nd place is ludicrous! I understand you want to aim as high as possible but you've got to be realistic. As Alcaraz said City will only get better when Toure gets back. Considering you're rebuilding, all you should be concerned about is securing CL football for next season.
 
Thought Clattenburg was his usual self today. Biggest disappointment for has been Di Maria since coming back from his hamstring injury. Falcao needs to learn how to use his left foot. Thought we were good at the back today apart from set pieces. TBH West Hams goal was lucky.

ADM is played wrongly/in the wrong position(s).

Oh and that was awful.
 
ESPN FC @ESPNFC Follow Louis van Gaal has issued a warning to the entire United squad: "I think all of them are playing for their future."
 
I am not trying to cut in any way possible. You are barely hanging onto a Top 4 place atm and that's a fact. City will only improve once Yaya comes back so in would be very very surprised if you overhaul their lead


Wierd argument. The same way we avoid those below is the same way we put pressure on City...
 
Wierd argument. The same way we avoid those below is the same way we put pressure on City...

Nothing weird about it, all I am saying is that dreaming about catching City is way premature at this stage and United fans should temper down their expectations a bit
 
RVP and Falcao please go and be dropped, falcao is borderline fecking useless especially today.

Wilson plus one.
 
Nothing weird about it, all I am saying is that dreaming about catching City is way premature at this stage and United fans should temper down their expectations a bit

Or not. The same way you climb away from the top 4 is the same way you catch City, even with Toure, City were not playing particuarly well, and they have an issue with creativity, which isnt actually his forte. Catching City and securing CL are the same thing, such is the nature of the group behind.
 
Spurs and saints both look a more fluid collective unit over us, the way this season is would not be surprised to see united 6th come may.
 
Or not. The same way you climb away from the top 4 is the same way you catch City, even with Toure, City were not playing particuarly well, and they have an issue with creativity, which isnt actually his forte. Catching City and securing CL are the same thing, such is the nature of the group behind.

That makes no sense. You are essentially saying that the aim should be to catch City so that you can consolidate a top 4 place?
 
Can't understand Van Gaal at all, says the squad is not balanced but plays 3 strikers and a winger as midfielder against West Ham with 2 CMs on bench. Says Rooney has privilege to start every game because he is captain of the team, so why can't he play him as striker and play actual midfielders in midfield.

Second half performance was better but the say Van Gaal is setting up team is just bizarre. These are the games where Fellaini should start as we offered 0 physical threat to West Ham.
 
We can field excellent team if Van Gaal stops playing all the strikers.

Herrera Blind

Januzaj Mata Di Maria

Rooney

Sometimes RVP/Falcao as lead striker and Rooney as #10. We have pace and width to hurt teams but the way Van Gaal is setting up teams it's so easy to defend.
 
Sad but true - as a wise man once said

"This was a good point, because they played badly," said Gary Neville as the final whistle sounded at the Boleyn Ground on Sunday. I can see Neville's point, that United would have taken a draw with five minutes remaining, but it largely ignores the fact that this was a 90-minute match, rather than a five-minute affair.Furthermore, playing badly and picking up a point was acceptable in November when Louis van Gaal's squad was decimated by injuries. Come February, with the Dutchman in charge for six months and a fit first-choice team at his disposal, the focus must surely be on the "playing badly" element of Neville's statement. And boy did they play badly.
For a manager who continuously promotes the importance of balance, Van Gaal has done his best to create a lop-sided and haphazard shape to United's play. There are too many issues to discuss at length, but Wayne Rooney's experiment as a midfielder looks defunct, Angel Di Maria seems robotic and starved of creativity, Adnan Januzaj has regressed alarmingly, Luke Shaw is lethargic and Radamel Falcao seems hamstrung by confidence issues.
For all Van Gaal's undoubted coaching pedigree, how many players in United's squad have actually improved under his tenure? David de Gea for sure, although a manager can only take small credit for the performances of his goalkeeper. Daley Blind, perhaps, although he arrived with a glowing reputation. Ashley Young, definitely. Ashley Young, the only unqualified success story of the Van Gaal era to date? That's almost laughable.
With the money United spent last summer, the least we expected was for them to be box office. Nobody could be certain of success or failure, but the obvious prediction would that it would be **** interesting to watch. Di Maria? Ander Herrera? Januzaj? Shaw? Robin van Persie? Rooney? We giggled at the prospect.
Instead, the football is verging on the unwatchable. The match against West Ham was emblematic of the season as a whole, United's lethargy going forward easily thwarted by a side of lesser quality but a more coherent plan of attack. The only point of interest in United this season is the simmering undercurrent that one of the defenders could metaphorically kick himself in the face. Where is the pace? Where is the flair? Where is the excitement?
United conceded in the 49th minute. The only substitution made by Van Gaal (other than to waste time in the final few seconds) was to bring on Marouane Fellaini and spend the final 20 minutes hitting the ball long into West Ham's area. Leaving Ander Herrera and Juan Mata on the bench throughout should provoke a literal Spanish inquisition - that's verging on gross negligence. Kevin Nolan dominated the midfield for goodness sake. I'm trying hard not to swear here.
Comparisons with David Moyes seem trite, but are inevitable when after 24 league matches both managers enjoyed the same number of victories. Moyes lasted only two more months than this.
Van Gaal is far from that stage, but there is no doubt that the mood is turning at Old Trafford. Ambitions are being slowly shifted to match reality. It really shouldn't have been like this.
 
Jonas Giæver @CheGiaevara Follow Last RT; Jorge Mendes (speaking to Cadena Ser): "I am negotiating with Manchester United about De Gea's renewal."
 
Guardian piece on Jorge Mendes' quotes.

“I am negotiating with Manchester United about De Gea’s renewal,” said Mendes. “It is not true that De Gea has found a deal with Real Madrid. I’m negotiating with Manchester United his extension.”
 
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