The Manchester United Thread

Theatreof Dreams said:
Trust me if things carry on like this next season I wont be happy. I just expected it to be this sort of season.
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Don't get me wrong i never expected us to be walking the league or even top two but i did expect to be entertained more and for the football to be better and old trafford to be fortress like but that might have been asking to much.

We just seem lost for any sort of ideas or tempo in the final third and are easy to defend against for any decent team.
 
sunilvk7 said:
We should have done lot better with the team we have but people underestimate how big a change is happening at United. Losing Fergie and after that losing so many key players who were part of success. Another thing that bugs me is people keep bringing up the money we have spent which is fine I can except that. But people need to except that they have not played many games due to injury

Shaw 12 out 28
Rojo 17 out 28
Blind 16 out 28
Herrera 9 out 28
Falcao 12 out 28
Di Maria 18 out 28




That's nonsense, if we sign Dybala then you would wank yourself to death because he is South American. Berahino is very good talent and will play for big team in near future,
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smith123 said:
Don't get me wrong i never expected us to be walking the league or even top two but i did expect to be entertained more and for the football to be better and old trafford to be fortress like but that might have been asking to much.

We just seem lost for any sort of ideas or tempo in the final third and are easy to defend against for any decent team.
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Our home record has been good this season unlike under Moyes but our away record was better under Moyes lol.
 
sunilvk7 said:
AVB is a nothing manager whose ego was just bigged up by media. Van Gaal has manager Barca, Bayern, Ajax and has won titles with them. He knows how to manage big clubs just that this is completely different as like I said he is not just a trainer here.

If we keep on changing managers then we move backwards rather than making any progress. Van Gaal has cleared lot of deadwood in 1 window and he is trimming the squad. So 1 more year and if he can't produce the results then he must go.
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It's not the man himself who matters, its the methodology. If you look at the top managers, they generally fall into one of two styles: you either adapt to your situation or have the sheer force of will to bend things to your vision. LvG is trying to do the latter, as he normally does, and largely appears to be failing. The idea that United should be performing anywhere near as badly as they are now is as laughable as Jose's "little horses" from last season. He comes off as one of those incredibly irritating idealists who insist that this is how things should have happened, and it's not his fault that the players didn't do it properly.
 
sunilvk7 said:
Apparently Berahino and his agent were in directors box yesterday, wouldn't mind signing him at all. Very talented players and has pace to stretch defense.
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Theatreof Dreams said:
I would not mind him tbh. Like you said has the qualities you mentioned and can finish to. And I think his contract is out next Summer.
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Would be a good signing, but be prepared to pay 15mil+ and for that amount there may be better options available
 
Subtle said:
It's not the man himself who matters, its the methodology. If you look at the top managers, they generally fall into one of two styles: you either adapt to your situation or have the sheer force of will to bend things to your vision. LvG is trying to do the latter, as he normally does, and largely appears to be failing. The idea that United should be performing anywhere near as badly as they are now is as laughable as Jose's "little horses" from last season. He comes off as one of those incredibly irritating idealists who insist that this is how things should have happened, and it's not his fault that the players didn't do it properly.
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My feeling on LVG as well, said so a few pages back, right strength of character for the job, but for me the wrong philosophy for United. Pity Ancelotti wasnt free last year.
 
wkdsoul said:
You do remember the Chelsea team, Jose took over finished 2nd and made the champs league semi final right?
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Lol Wut? You mean they finished 3rd after some miracle work from Benitez and got kicked out of the CL group stages. Get your facts right son
 
sunilvk7 said:
That's nonsense, if we sign Dybala then you would wank yourself to death because he is South American. Berahino is very good talent and will play for big team in near future,
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Nah just a gentle tug, Vietto or Lacazette on the other hand....
 
sunilvk7 said:
And Jose didn't lose core team like ManUtd did this season. No Rodgers was better than Jose despite not spending 100 plus Million on the team which had Hazard, Oscar, Terry, Azpi, Cech and many other players.

2 years back your argument was how Chelsea had such a good team, Ramires was one of the best in Europe, Mata was the best player in PL and now you are saying it was poor team. Nice try. Chelsea's weakness was strikers and poor choice of managers. Not talent in the team.
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2 years back, we just came off finishing 6th and won the CL through some very good luck. Please show me where I said Chelsea had a very good team. Only thing I said was that Mata was world-class but unfortunately, one world-class player does not make a world-class team. It was a very limited team in Jose's first season. No striker and completely unbalanced midfield which prevented us from challenging for the title since Ancelloti left. He took that limited team to a title challenge despite having CL commitments. Am I saying it's a terrible team? No I am saying it was a limited team. Catch the nuance

Same with LVG. He doesn't have a very good squad and it's limited but it does have some world-class talent like Falcao, RVP, Di Maria, Rooney, Mata, De Gea, Januzaj and Herrera. He should be doing far better especially when compared to what Jose achievieved with a smiliarly limited squad that did have talented players in Hazard, Oscar as you mentioned
 
Theatreof Dreams said:
Makes me laugh how people can say we have strengthened considering we lost Ferdie,Vidic,Fletch,Scholes,Giggs,Evra maybe more. Cant see how we have replaced them and all of a sudden become a much better team!
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Seriously? You might have lost some experience but you more than made up for it in terms of your signings. Falcao, Di Maria, Mata, Herrera, Blind, Rojo, Shaw and yet you say you haven't strengthened. You lost a **** Evra, 40 year old Giggs and Scholes, declining Vidic and Ferdinand. Christ Almighty the excuses are getting laughable now. Spent £150m but we haven't strengthened
 
Alcaraz said:
Lol Wut? You mean they finished 3rd after some miracle work from Benitez and got kicked out of the CL group stages. Get your facts right son
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I think he might mean the first time round only going off memory, got beat by Monaco in champs league didn't you when Ranieri was in charge not sure on league position. Not sure how old you are so maybe it's before your time son ;)
 
epic terrorist said:
I think he might mean the first time round only going off memory, got beat by Monaco in champs league didn't you when Ranieri was in charge not sure on league position. Not sure how old you are so maybe it's before your time son ;)
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Perhaps but I was talking about Mourinho MK II for anyone who is confused. Because he kinda won the league in his first ever season at Chelsea ;)
 
It's all quiet at ot, maybe they are preparing a statement to announce that lvg has left by mutual consent.
 
Alcaraz said:
Seriously? You might have lost some experience but you more than made up for it in terms of your signings. Falcao, Di Maria, Mata, Herrera, Blind, Rojo, Shaw and yet you say you haven't strengthened. You lost a **** Evra, 40 year old Giggs and Scholes, declining Vidic and Ferdinand. Christ Almighty the excuses are getting laughable now. Spent £150m but we haven't strengthened
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I maybe worded it wrong but the quality of player has defo not been replaced imo. And all them players were not **** under Fergies last season. And theres a big difference as many of those players played in over 5 seasons each a lot more infact. The players we spent 150m on have not even had season in the Prem bar Shaw.
 
Alcaraz said:
Lol Wut? You mean they finished 3rd after some miracle work from Benitez and got kicked out of the CL group stages. Get your facts right son
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Ahh i thought you were on about the first time round
 
Bale just isn't loved at real is he?

Erm please Woody and transfer gods...... Honestly swap anyone at the club except de gea for him.
 
wkdsoul said:
**** right, he can play LWB with Shaw. :)
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Or up top with fellaini while rooney drops back deep or at right back since rafael seems to have royally ****** off van gaal to the point valencia is our only option, imagine that
 
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