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If let's say, pogba has a fantastic game at no. 10, serious questions must be asked

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From the Times: Mkhitaryan expected to be out for 10 days and miss 3 games with thigh injury








11:10 pm - 13 Sep 2016
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Oh...if there's no shaw then I'm worried rooney might still walk back into the side come Watford.

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Oh...if there's no shaw then I'm worried rooney might still walk back into the side come Watford.

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Dont joke! :) hopefully we spank them without him in the team and Mou thinks again about putting him back in. Just read Shaw being rested after feeling his hamstring was tight after the Derby. Trained ok today but Mou don't wanna risk him. Jones injured surprise!
 
Rojo going to start at LB. Rooney rested for Watford and Mou wants him fresh. But also wants to see the options at 10 incase Rooney does not play for some reason. Valencia rested after Derby and long travel with international team. About team news from presser now.
 
Ugh. Brad Jones is Feyenoord's new 'keeper. Never knew that clown had ended up there. There is the timeless threat of Kuyt like the other end.

5 out of 5 and top the Dutch league FWTW,

Not a side to underestimate at a full De Kuip under the lights.
 
Ugh. Brad Jones is Feyenoord's new 'keeper. Never knew that clown had ended up there. There is the timeless threat of Kuyt like the other end.

5 out of 5 and top the Dutch league FWTW,

Not a side to underestimate at a full De Kuip under the lights.
Think it will be only half open also. Mou said something about the stadium being half empty.
 
Think it will be only half open also. Mou said something about the stadium being half empty.

Down around the 30K mark from 51K. Feyenoord are trying to reduce the possibility of further hits from UEFA for crowd trouble.

I loved Utd writing to fans with tickets advising them to 'dress conservatively and keep a low profile.' Anyone not doing that regardless in Rotterdam is, shall we say, naive in the extreme (or just flat out looking for it), and you struggle to have much sympathy if they got caught up in anything/ found it.

All three trips in this group, and in particular Rotterdam and Istanbul, are not one's to be taking any 'passengers' on lets say.
 
Reading back over the last few pages and the angst over Pogba having a couple of real poor games and where he should be playing/ what personnel should be utilised etc .....

Getting more and more an overlooked thing the more generations pass and want instant success but patience really is a virtue. This will all come with continued work on the training ground. Pogbas been at Utd what, a month? Mourinho's had them to work with what, 3 months or so? Just because you go out and hire one of the top managers in the World and then break a World record fee on a transfer doesn't mean that everything miraculously comes together. You're changing a whole philosophy drummed into them the last 2 years. It's going to take time.

For analogy, although their style of play is wholly different, we're only just now starting to see a true Jurgen Klopp team at Anfield. The constant interchanging and shape, knowing exactly where to be at any one time and it all being second nature, being able to think for yourself out there, particularly the midfield three who move like a constant triangle, isn't by chance. It's from hours and hours the training pitch doing it every single session. Day in, day out. And it's only now starting to bear real fruit after he's finally had the serious hours pre-season to really hammer home what we never had enough time in training last year to do through all the constant games and recovery. Next month will be his one year anniversary. Jose's been at Utd a quarter of that time. I'm a firm believer that teams under the top managers take on the identity of those managers. Why Jose's teams are often narly so and so's but who are all exceptionally well drilled and adapt to whatever it takes to grind out the win. But that's gonna' take time and hours and hours of repeated work on the training park. You probably won't really start to see a Mourinho side on a consistent basis until well into the second half the season.

Pogba will be fine in the three. But you have to allow not just him, but the other players to grow and understand just what's expected and what to do in every given situation to fill in or go. And the only way to get to that point is through time and hard work and repetition every day in training.

Patience is a virtue.

This. Time and again this.
 
Down around the 30K mark from 51K. Feyenoord are trying to reduce the possibility of further hits from UEFA for crowd trouble.

I loved Utd writing to fans with tickets advising them to 'dress conservatively and keep a low profile.' Anyone not doing that regardless in Rotterdam is, shall we say, naive in the extreme (or just flat out looking for it), and you struggle to have much sympathy if they got caught up in anything/ found it.

All three trips in this group, and in particular Rotterdam and Istanbul, are not one's to be taking any 'passengers' on lets say.

Just wait until Millwall make it in the Champions league then!
 
Reading back over the last few pages and the angst over Pogba having a couple of real poor games and where he should be playing/ what personnel should be utilised etc .....

Getting more and more an overlooked thing the more generations pass and want instant success but patience really is a virtue. This will all come with continued work on the training ground. Pogbas been at Utd what, a month? Mourinho's had them to work with what, 3 months or so? Just because you go out and hire one of the top managers in the World and then break a World record fee on a transfer doesn't mean that everything miraculously comes together. You're changing a whole philosophy drummed into them the last 2 years. It's going to take time.

For analogy, although their style of play is wholly different, we're only just now starting to see a true Jurgen Klopp team at Anfield. The constant interchanging and shape, knowing exactly where to be at any one time and it all being second nature, being able to think for yourself out there, particularly the midfield three who move like a constant triangle, isn't by chance. It's from hours and hours the training pitch doing it every single session. Day in, day out. And it's only now starting to bear real fruit after he's finally had the serious hours pre-season to really hammer home what we never had enough time in training last year to do through all the constant games and recovery. Next month will be his one year anniversary. Jose's been at Utd a quarter of that time. I'm a firm believer that teams under the top managers take on the identity of those managers. Why Jose's teams are often narly so and so's but who are all exceptionally well drilled and adapt to whatever it takes to grind out the win. But that's gonna' take time and hours and hours of repeated work on the training park. You probably won't really start to see a Mourinho side on a consistent basis until well into the second half the season.

Pogba will be fine in the three. But you have to allow not just him, but the other players to grow and understand just what's expected and what to do in every given situation to fill in or go. And the only way to get to that point is through time and hard work and repetition every day in training.

Patience is a virtue.
This is an awesome post! See Scouse u CAN be reasonable if you put your mind into it. :D

Also apropos of Pogba I may be the only person to think he actually was not bad vs man city especially in the first half. Plus he clearly was hampered by Mous tactics.

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This is an awesome post! See Scouse u CAN be reasonable if you put your mind into it. :D

Also apropos of Pogba I may be the only person to think he actually was not bad vs man city especially in the first half. Plus he clearly was hampered by Mous tactics.

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In his defence, he's easily been the best poster in the last few/couple of weeks.
 
Just wait until Millwall make it in the Champions league then!

God. Let's hope that never happens.

Last time we played Millwall, at their new ground, league cup heck, must be over 10 years ago. Houllier. Maybe the beginning of Rafa. Anyway, all our little knobs were out in force. We developed quite the history the few years they were up the old first division. We won the game 3-0 but I still couldn't tell you who scored. It was just literally **** going backwards and forwards the upper section, coins, everything, the full 90 with not a steward or policeman in sight. Got kept back ages after until they'd completely cleared London Bridge and shut the whole station down. Had us go straight through to Euston. Nobody was getting off anywhere. But going in the game at the turney's, there's a massive security check and I literally stepped over a f-ing machete that somebody had dropped. Seriously, who the F takes a MACHETE to a game of football? You do that you're intending to SERIOUSLY maim someone or worse. And that wasn't Millwall. That was one of ours. Utter madness.
 
God. Let's hope that never happens.

Last time we played Millwall, at their new ground, league cup heck, must be over 10 years ago. Houllier. Maybe the beginning of Rafa. Anyway, all our little knobs were out in force. We developed quite the history the few years they were up the old first division. We won the game 3-0 but I still couldn't tell you who scored. It was just literally **** going backwards and forwards the upper section, coins, everything, the full 90 with not a steward or policeman in sight. Got kept back ages after until they'd completely cleared London Bridge and shut the whole station down. Had us go straight through to Euston. Nobody was getting off anywhere. But going in the game at the turney's, there's a massive security check and I literally stepped over a f-ing machete that somebody had dropped. Seriously, who the F takes a MACHETE to a game of football? You do that you're intending to SERIOUSLY maim someone or worse. And that wasn't Millwall. That was one of ours. Utter madness.
I remember the racist chants at opposition players and Jack Collision coming off the pitch in tears after they chanted "where's daddy gone?" after his dad died that week. They break barriers to opposition fans and start fights etc.
 
I remember the racist chants at opposition players and Jack Collision coming off the pitch in tears after they chanted "where's daddy gone?" after his dad died that week. They break barriers to opposition fans and start fights etc.

Yeah, evil place. In one of the most deprived areas in London. What an absolute shithole Bermondsey is. Even when there's no aggro it's just vile ***** being slung at yer all game. That night nobody was spared. The 96. Shankly. Paisley. Young James Bulger. Even Simon Weston, who got horrifically burned the Falklands War and spent a lot of time in Liverpool recovering was mocked by Millwall. At least now the new ground there's a train station for the away end. The walk down from South Bermondsey to the Old Den wasn't for the feint hearted even in the escort.

Not a place you want to be if you're not local.
 
Scouse getting compliments from united fans in the Manchester United thread?

If Zzezzy is positive after the game tonight you may as well close FMbase down, it's broken
 
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