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Pes's gameplay has plenty of faults as well. The pitches are too narrow, its to easy to get by players and most of the time you can dribble the pitch with one player pass twice and score

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out of curiousity do u play pes on manual with superstar difficulty mate?
 
This has seriously disturbed me.

So I'm going to pretend I never saw it, it never happened, and such heinous thoughts never even entered your head!

Fell off the wagon already :@
G/F over in the UK on business, bottle of Woodford reserve and a bag of ice :S

Edit: And a glass of course? I'm not a pikey.
 
Fell off the wagon already :@
G/F over in the UK on business, bottle of Woodford reserve and a bag of ice :S

Edit: And a glass of course? I'm not a pikey.

When this guy does Scotch (I know. Kentucky. Humour me), he PROPERLY does Scotch.

Nice to have you back brother!
 
Speaking of video games, anyone seen the fm 17 trailer?
Yeh. Glad they have finally done a x64 version. And the fact touch is a standalone game. Only £20 but that's through their site so hoping to get a key somewhere a bit cheaper. Can't be arsed with the full game anymore. Hoping they allow touch users to use a custom database but I thought that would have been one of the key selling points but wasn't in the video so probably not.

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When this guy does Scotch (I know. Kentucky. Humour me), he PROPERLY does Scotch.

Nice to have you back brother!

There is NOTHING proper about Scotch WITH ice. Put ice in good Scotch you **** the Scotch. Proper is NEAT!

And as for good Scotch that is anything beginning with Glen: Glenmorangie, Glenfiddich or James Bond's favourite Macallan. "Bit" steep tho so usually Chivas has to do.
 
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"Mkhitaryan off to a slow start" - Why must the British media make this a headline? I mean, just why? Because Pogba scored against Netherlands so he's last week's news for now? Honestly..... give the lad a chance to get a run of games under his belt before any of this ****, don't see any need to go off and print a story about a player who has had a couple of injury troubles and hasn't played more than 45 minutes in a game for his side yet, pointless.

The media, ladies & gents.
 
"Mkhitaryan off to a slow start" - Why must the British media make this a headline? I mean, just why? Because Pogba scored against Netherlands so he's last week's news for now? Honestly..... give the lad a chance to get a run of games under his belt before any of this ****, don't see any need to go off and print a story about a player who has had a couple of injury troubles and hasn't played more than 45 minutes in a game for his side yet, pointless.

The media, ladies & gents.

Talking of more realistic expectations .....

If Utd finished outside the top four again (and completely did for zz as another's years 'humiliation' would surely be too much for him to bear after we learned lat night how utterly embarrassed he is not being in the Champions League), would that be acceptable to you?

To me, it would be part of the process of rebuilding to get back to the promised land. And let's face it, at least two of Arsenal, Chelsea, City, L'pool, 'Spurs and Utd are going to miss out every season going forward. That's just the way it now is at the very top. And only one of those 6 are going to win the league on any given season. Someone has to miss out.

I'm asking as I can foresee a complete meltdown if that happened. And as much as I don't think Utd can afford to miss out again in terms of attracting players and the standing of the club in World football, looking strictly at Mourinho and what he's inherited/ the massive job he has to turn this fully around; it's quite conceivable you could finish outside the top 4 again in year one. But I wouldn't say that's necessarily a bad thing if you you're getting big improvement within that and building for the future.

Utd have fallen that far the past three years, it's going to be a long journey/ process/ insert whatever generic term you like here, and patience is the key if you're to be truly committed to see it through under him and get back to where you crave to be.

Be interested to read peoples views on that possibility.
 
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Professional difficulty. Yeah I play on manual.

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cool,try it on superstar and u def wont be able to get away with soft goals,the difference between pro and superstar is significant.i can score on superstar but its very hard against big clubs to defend
 
Talking of more realistic expectations .....

If Utd finished outside the top four again (and completely did for zz as another's years 'humiliation' would surely be too much for him to bear after we learned lat night how utterly embarrassed he is not being in the Champions League), would that be acceptable to you?

To me, it would be part of the process of rebuilding to get back to the promised land. And let's face it, at least two of Arsenal, Chelsea, City, L'pool, 'Spurs and Utd are going to miss out every season going forward. That's just the way it now is at the very top. And only one of those 6 are going to win the league on any given season. Someone has to miss out.

I'm asking as I can foresee a complete meltdown if that happened. And as much as I don't think Utd can afford to miss out again in terms of attracting players and the standing of the club in World football, looking strictly at Mourinho and what he's inherited/ the massive job he has to turn this fully around; it's quite conceivable you could finish outside the top 4 again in year one. But I wouldn't say that's necessarily a bad thing if you you're getting big improvement within that and building for the future.

Utd have fallen that far the past three years, it's going to be a long journey/ process/ insert whatever generic term you like here, and patience is the key if you're to be truly committed to see it through under him and get back to where you crave to be.

Be interested to read peoples views on that possibility.

I'm not overly panicking tbh. The competition this year is as fierce as ever, but we're finally finding our stride and seeing vast improvements game by game. It's not like the Van Gaal days, when you were sitting thinking to yourself "give him time right? it'll surely come good? we're Manchester United... right?" - Mourinho has went straight for the jugular with his summer signings, no messing around, he's put practically everything in place now we just have to be patient and let it all gradually come together bit by bit (we're seeing it). And yes, it's far from impossible for us to miss out on a top 4 spot, but as one of the Chelsea lads on here said, we probably won't see Mourinho's best team until next season. I think we've appointed the right man, and even though his history of 2-4 year spells would suggest otherwise, I think he's in it for the long haul... what else is there to do for him? This is the pinnacle for him, emulating the legendary Sir Alex Ferguson, something I think he's wanted to do for a long time.. little comments here and there throughout his career like "Chelsea is a big club, with all the respect Liverpool is a big club, but Man United is a SUPER big club" during his Chelsea days, and when Madrid beat us with that suspect Nani sending off, he said the best team lost - which didn't go down too well back in Spain, would suggest he's always had a little soft spot for us, and kept his comments rather sweet with one eye on the future.

We're only in October at the end of the day, it's a long road 'til May.
 
If United finished outside the top 4, would that be acceptable to me? Depends on how we perform. If City, Liverpool, Tottenham and Arsenal barely drop any points from now until the end of the season (barring when they play each other, or the odd little slip up here & there) and we do the same, but just fall short - then yes, I could live with it, especially if we were playing good attacking football and seeing improvements.

And of course, even though we've performed poorly in it, the Europa League is a pretty good chance of qualifying for the CL.
 
Talking of more realistic expectations .....

If Utd finished outside the top four again (and completely did for zz as another's years 'humiliation' would surely be too much for him to bear after we learned lat night how utterly embarrassed he is not being in the Champions League), would that be acceptable to you?

To me, it would be part of the process of rebuilding to get back to the promised land. And let's face it, at least two of Arsenal, Chelsea, City, L'pool, 'Spurs and Utd are going to miss out every season going forward. That's just the way it now is at the very top. And only one of those 6 are going to win the league on any given season. Someone has to miss out.

I'm asking as I can foresee a complete meltdown if that happened. And as much as I don't think Utd can afford to miss out again in terms of attracting players and the standing of the club in World football, looking strictly at Mourinho and what he's inherited/ the massive job he has to turn this fully around; it's quite conceivable you could finish outside the top 4 again in year one. But I wouldn't say that's necessarily a bad thing if you you're getting big improvement within that and building for the future.

Utd have fallen that far the past three years, it's going to be a long journey/ process/ insert whatever generic term you like here, and patience is the key if you're to be truly committed to see it through under him and get back to where you crave to be.

Be interested to read peoples views on that possibility.

Dude put this I'm humiliated to be in Europa to bed, you got the wrong end of the stick. It's a humiliation for the club as a whole it was I meant and the reason is because you see our spend and high reputation players like Zlatan and Pogba playing in it. Let me word it another way... does any rival fan not find it hilarious that the likes of Pogba has gone from CL Final to Eurooa League? The humiliation is not my perception, it is simply a general observation of how the club sees it and everyone else practically for that matter. Maybe humiliation is a wrong term, embarrassment maybe.

All that hat said and answering your question, this has been discussed before and finishing outside top 4 would be a huge failure. Something we can't comprehend and quite honestly... I don't think Mourinho would still be here if we don't make top 4 at end of season.
 
There is NOTHING proper about Scotch WITH ice. Put ice in good Scotch you **** the Scotch. Proper is NEAT!

And as for good Scotch that is anything beginning with Glen: Glenmorangie, Glenfiddich or James Bond's favourite Macallan. "Bit" steep tho so usually Chivas has to do.

See you've taken that too literally haha. I was using 'Scotch' for all whiskey. Bourbon, Scots, Irish included. Personal favourite would be Jameson Gold Reserve. Smooth but that's a special occasion as it's pricey.

With you on the ice though. I'm the same with Vodka. Diluting it ruins it!
 
Talking of more realistic expectations .....

If Utd finished outside the top four again (and completely did for zz as another's years 'humiliation' would surely be too much for him to bear after we learned lat night how utterly embarrassed he is not being in the Champions League), would that be acceptable to you?

To me, it would be part of the process of rebuilding to get back to the promised land. And let's face it, at least two of Arsenal, Chelsea, City, L'pool, 'Spurs and Utd are going to miss out every season going forward. That's just the way it now is at the very top. And only one of those 6 are going to win the league on any given season. Someone has to miss out.

I'm asking as I can foresee a complete meltdown if that happened. And as much as I don't think Utd can afford to miss out again in terms of attracting players and the standing of the club in World football, looking strictly at Mourinho and what he's inherited/ the massive job he has to turn this fully around; it's quite conceivable you could finish outside the top 4 again in year one. But I wouldn't say that's necessarily a bad thing if you you're getting big improvement within that and building for the future.

Utd have fallen that far the past three years, it's going to be a long journey/ process/ insert whatever generic term you like here, and patience is the key if you're to be truly committed to see it through under him and get back to where you crave to be.

Be interested to read peoples views on that possibility.

There are a few factors that come into play. For example if the top 4 have stellar seasons, while i would be annoyed, yes I could find the acceptable (obviously after the initial disappointment). However if we have the same or similar season to last year, i will be very annoyed as last year everyone was ***** except for Leicester and Tottenham.

The league has seen many improvements in both players coming in and managers. You wouldn't have thought 5 years ago we would see Pogba and guardiola caliber people.

That last bit was a a bit off topic, but back to it. My overriding belief however would be that while that line of thinking (rebuilding over 5+ years after a successful period) is something positive, while being something I would say myself and mean it, it is a slippery slope.

Not many clubs come back after falling from the top, and if they do it is after a VERY lengthy time. Talking domestically here, and not slighting any teams or fans with this, but Liverpool have not been at the top for 20+ years, Arsenal 10 years. Other clubs like Blackburn & Newcastle will never go back to the top in my lifetime. If you look abroad, clubs like Inter & AC milan haven't truly recovered their dominance either, the list goes on.

Because of these reasons, as a fan I would find it un-acceptable to fall out of the top 4, it gives you an excuse for why the team was not good enough that season, and gives you false hope at the beginning of the season as they are remembering the team as it was, not how it is.

I agree with you however, Jose has an interesting time ahead of him, and I think that this and the following season will make or break the club. There is only so long investors, sponsorship deals, big name managers and players will come to the club when the club is doing poorly. Can't keep banking on the old days to keep you up.
 
Dude put this I'm humiliated to be in Europa to bed, you got the wrong end of the stick.....

Didn't get the wrong end of anything as you continue to keep reiterating the same ridiculous point.

I daren't ask what you think of the League Cup.
 
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