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Martial and Rashford will never develop under mourinho, its incredibly sad. We are wasting the best french and british talent under a finished manager. How can you lot actually not see it? 40% win ratio at home, worse than the season we were RELEGATED.
 
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Whats to be happy about though? Can you genuinely tell me? We're worse off than last season with much better individual quality that we bought in ibra, pogba and mkhi. Plus, our talented youngsters have regressed in martial and rashford. TFM has 2 starts, Luke shaw is better than that Malteser at left back and he still doesn't play. Genuinely don't understand how we have been better. The same lot that were gunning down LVG last season b/c we were not gonna make top 4 are giving mourinho excuses? Why though? Just because he's mourinho or are you gonna blame the players again and again for the 10th draw at OT this season? Or the same lame excuses in "Gk turning into prime buffon"
 
1 goal every 5 chances is a 20% conversion rate. That's actually quite high by the way. The issue is the same as before. It's the not main goal scorer, it's the goals from the wide players that need to improve. Mata is probably the most lethal player from the front four after zlatan.
 
In the season he topped the league for us, van persie also missed the most chances...
 
Just finished watching Sunday Supp. Was talking about Luke Shaw. Sam Wallace and Steve Bates said that Utd fans need to be patient as Shaw who suffered an hurendous injury at the age of 20 needs time and it's only been 18 months and Mourinho is just building him back up. And is visiting a sports physiologist to help him. And Custis said he spoke with Mourinho and he said that undoubtably Shaw is his best left back and his time at Manchester United is not over.
 
Martial and Rashford will never develop under mourinho, its incredibly sad. We are wasting the best french and british talent under a finished manager. How can you lot actually not see it? 40% win ratio at home, worse than the season we were RELEGATED.
Martial isn't the best French talent mate. Lol.

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Question for the United fans here.

Are you really enjoying the football United are playing this season?
Not "Well it's better than _____", "Well it's good to see...", "Well it bodes well for next season" etc... "

Are you enjoying the football they are playing?
 
Question for the United fans here.

Are you really enjoying the football United are playing this season?
Not "Well it's better than _____", "Well it's good to see...", "Well it bodes well for next season" etc... "

Are you enjoying the football they are playing?
For the most parts I have. Results have been more frustrating! Don't think anyone's played great football in the league. The defences been poor have made for some good scoring games. Take the City v Arsenal game today. Exciting but not great football, no great play that lead to goals just comedy defending and lack of quality in CM area.
 
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Question for the United fans here.

Are you really enjoying the football United are playing this season?
Not "Well it's better than _____", "Well it's good to see...", "Well it bodes well for next season" etc... "

Are you enjoying the football they are playing?


From time to time. But generally, **** no.
 
Question for the United fans here.

Are you really enjoying the football United are playing this season?
Not "Well it's better than _____", "Well it's good to see...", "Well it bodes well for next season" etc... "

Are you enjoying the football they are playing?

Current answer: No.

But, (and I know you're thinking ''Ffs I told you lot don't tiptoe around it") there's a bigger picture.

For a spell, we were in my opinion, playing as well as any team in the league. The only ironic thing, it also coincided with all of those frustrating draws (Stoke, Burnley, Arsenal, Everton, West Ham etc). It came in a 4-2-3-1 shape, with a fluent and gradually gelling front 4. What we missed, in my opinion, was the bit of ruthlessness Mkhitaryan brings to the table. I still think had he of played earlier in the season, he might've had a difference in those games.

It was headscratching, frustrating, but stuff good to watch. Jose recognised that, but still needed points on the board.

It was actually our 6 game winning streak from December to January that sorta seen our level of attacking entertainment decrease, but at the cost of stability and getting professional, Jose esque wins on the board. That resulted mainly from of the switch from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3, using Carrick more frequently, so it's I suppose is self explanatory as to why the attacking overloads became fewer.

Then along came Liverpool. Ended our winning streak, stopped the momentum. Forced us to wobble. We went on to draw against Stoke & Hull after that, contradicting our entire December work. So, not only did 4-3-3 limit our attacking entertainment, we were starting to also get nothing to show from it, unlike as said above, December.

So he switched back to 4-2-3-1 in February, blows Leicester off the park (3-0 at the King Power), gets revenge against Watford at Old Trafford (2-0), all's looking rosy with some good attacking football again (almost 20 shots on target in those 2 matches in a 4-2-3-1), and then along come Bournemouth and cunty Tyrone Mings to **** everything up. After that Zlatan incident, the whole game had a ****** up feel to it, with them committing to seeing it out with 10 men, and just a weird vibe as if the game was spoiled and had ended at HT, everything surrounded the off the ball incidents.

Since then, Zlatan's suspension has been a big factor, along with another stop-start phase from Mkhitaryan who picked up something in the EL, ALONG with Jose's little temporary fascination with this 5 at the back.

I have no excuse for yesterday however, it was what it was. West Brom kept us at bay. Typical Pulis.

Overall, I think when we play 4-2-3-1, we play good football. But currently, with the key absentees, and not playing consistently in this shape, we're not.
 
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So i guess this is the end for Luke shaw huh?

Jose just said there's a long way back for Luke shaw. This is the side of Jose I don't like.

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