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**** move whatever way you cut it.

Do it behind closed doors to me if you have a problem. Do it in public, and your respect has gone. Do it to one of my teammates in public, and that respect is on the slippery slope.
 
yes ive heard about when he was at southampton and the struggle they had with him due to his poor diet so it seems this is not something mourinho has invented.There really appears to be an underlying issue with shaws fitness and that cant be tolerated at a club like united.looking more and more likely he will leave provided mou gets the LB he really wants.Would love danny rose but cant see that happening
 
Yup, I think/hope we'll get a "proper" LB this summer.. Young, Blind, Shaw, Darmian all rotated and Young been our best LB imo, says a lot. :(
 
Listened to an interesting theory from a tactical savvy United through & through man regarding the Shaw situation. Mourinho has said in the past that he (Shaw) doesn't play as he likes his left back to play, and then last night he further questioned his "intelligence" - is he too aggressive for the system Mourinho wants to employ and cement here? Which is revolved around accommodating Valencia providing our width on the right side (given we have only inside forwards, and none of them naturally left footed ala Robben, Mahrez etc, so they will naturally drift infield more, requiring Valencia to get forward more and cover it).

Last nights showing would back it up (first half anyway, second half was a tactical circus) with Lingard repeatedly coming infield, very central, with Valencia playing as a RM/RW when in possession, as opposed to Blind being very selective in his forward runs. And the fact that Shaw was one of his subs when 0-1 down shows that Mourinho somewhat rates his ability to have an attacking impact from wide areas... Maybe too much to fit what he wants as a Fb?

Thoughts? Not MY actual opinion, but interesting, not easy to brush it off as nonsense
 
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RhQQ said:
Listened to an interesting theory from a tactical savvy United through & through man regarding the Shaw situation. Mourinho has said in the past that he (Shaw) doesn't play as he likes his left back to play, and then last night he further questioned his "intelligence" - is he too aggressive for the system Mourinho wants to employ and cement here? Which is revolved around accommodating Valencia providing our width on the right side (given we have only inside forwards, and none of them naturally left footed ala Robben, Mahrez etc, so they will naturally drift infield more, requiring Valencia to get forward more and cover it).

Last nights showing would back it up (first half anyway, second half was a tactical circus) with Lingard repeatedly coming infield, very central, with Valencia playing as a RM/RW when in possession, as opposed to Blind being very selective in his forward runs. And the fact that Shaw was one of his subs when 0-1 down shows that Mourinho somewhat rates his ability to have an attacking impact from wide areas... Maybe too much to fit what he wants as a Fb?

Thoughts? Not MY actual opinion, but interesting, not easy to brush it off as nonsense
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Fair assessment that tbh!
 
RedUnited said:
Yup, I think/hope we'll get a "proper" LB this summer.. Young, Blind, Shaw, Darmian all rotated and Young been our best LB imo, says a lot. :(
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I honestly don't think Mourinho wants to. And is giving Shaw one lady kick up the ****. Think Mourinho knows we have bigger fish/ problems to solve this Summer we're he can better invest.
 
Just saw an interesting, but damning stat. No epl team has hit the post more that united this season (18).

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Wonder if we'll sign a left footed IF, or an out & out RW. Allow our two Fbs to have balanced contribution. In which case Shaw & Valencia/Semedo would be perfect
 
Theatre of dreams said:
I honestly don't think Mourinho wants to. And is giving Shaw one lady kick up the ****. Think Mourinho knows we have bigger fish/ problems to solve this Summer we're he can better invest.
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What if Shaw doesn't respond the way he wants? :( Is he gonna rotate with Blind, Shaw, Young and Darmian next season as well? :(
 
RhQQ said:
Wonder if we'll sign a left footed IF, or an out & out RW. Allow our two Fbs to have balanced contribution. In which case Shaw & Valencia/Semedo would be perfect
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Maybe that's why Mourinho was talking with Perisic agent, even though he denies it. Think we will sign Griezmann and another attacker, most likely a STR who can deliver when Zlatans not playing. Those 2 should provide more goals and guile to our attack. Then hopefully Rashford and Martial get back into form, because there drop off has been huge this season! A better CM with better depth so less Fellaini will help. Pretty sure Pogba and Mky will see huge improvements now the first season is out the way. The squads just not good enough in over all quality and depth and balance atm.
 
RedUnited said:
What if Shaw doesn't respond the way he wants? :( Is he gonna rotate with Blind, Shaw, Young and Darmian next season as well? :(
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If Shaw doesn't start doing what Mourinho wants in training he will be gone. Young will be gone and was close to leaving in January. I'm happy with Blind usually good at LB/CB and CM. Darmian is a gonner also. Would not be surprised to see TFM as Valencia understoody.
 
Right just for ***** and giggles as I've seen this on a few UTD Forums. Got to be realistic! Which 4 players would you sign that would go straight into our starting 11 and how would you line up? I've gone with 4 as Ed said there won't be huge incomings this Summer. You can name 7 subs if you want.

Ddg
Valencia- Bailly- Gimenez- Mendy
Bakayoko-Pogba
Mky- Griezmann- Martial
Zlatan

Romero, Rojo, Blind, Herrera, Fellaini, Rashford, Mata

Would not be surprised if we sign 1 more though a STR. Belotti.
 
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Lacazette, Griezmann, Veratti and Rodriguez (left back I personally love, if Mou really doesn't like Shaw or whatever)

Can't think of a good CB that would improve United that would be reasonable cost

But that would be mega money


Ddg

Valencia- Bailly- Smalling- Rodriguez

Veratti-Pogba

Mky- Griezmann- Martial

Lacazette
 
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Average Joe said:
Lacazette, Griezmann, Veratti and Rodriguez (left back I personally love, if Mou really doesn't like Shaw or whatever)

Can't think of a good CB that would improve United that would be reasonable cost

But that would be mega money
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Thought about Lacazette but all reports saying he's agreed so decided not to. Not been impressed with Rodriguez this season, but I do like! I was really really tempted to put Verratti( the dream CM signing, and could be available) how would you line up. 4231 or 433?
 
Average Joe said:
Lacazette, Griezmann, Veratti and Rodriguez (left back I personally love, if Mou really doesn't like Shaw or whatever)

Can't think of a good CB that would improve United that would be reasonable cost

But that would be mega money


Ddg

Valencia- Bailly- Smalling- Rodriguez

Veratti-Pogba

Mky- Griezmann- Martial

Lacazette
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Nice! Apart from Smalldini. We will defo spend huge ;)
 
4-3-3 would only work with the correct players in the middle of the park. If you take Pogba out of it, there's no balance to it at all, too many players doing pretty much the same thing. No runners from midfield (I don't count route 1 to Fellaini). Pereira would be a good back up/rotational option to Pogba, could easily play in the middle as a creative ball carrier. Veratti, Bakayoko & Pogba would be in a midfield 3 would be monstrous, compare it to Herrera, Fellaini & Pogba...

But those two signings, along with Greizmann, is just too unrealistic for me. That's why I think 4-2-3-1 is the logical choice, as we already have most of the puzzle for it with the likes of Mkhi, Mata, Martial, Rashford, and potentially Griezmann to have in that line of 3 behind Zlatan/Str. Just buy one world class midfielder to partner Pogba, get Griezmann (hopefully), and a centre half if we're offloading.
 
RhQQ said:
4-3-3 would only work with the correct players in the middle of the park. If you take Pogba out of it, there's no balance to it at all, too many players doing pretty much the same thing. No runners from midfield (I don't count route 1 to Fellaini). Pereira would be a good back up/rotational option to Pogba, could easily play in the middle as a creative ball carrier. Veratti, Bakayoko & Pogba would be in a midfield 3 would be monstrous, compare it to Herrera, Fellaini & Pogba...

But those two signings, along with Greizmann, is just too unrealistic for me. That's why I think 4-2-3-1 is the logical choice, as we already have most of the puzzle for it with the likes of Mkhi, Mata, Martial, Rashford, and potentially Griezmann to have in that line of 3 behind Zlatan/Str. Just buy one world class midfielder to partner Pogba, get Griezmann (hopefully), and a centre half if we're offloading.
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Really can't think how much Verratti would cost. Maybe 100-120m?
 
Top 5 cm's in the world, only signed 5 year deal last year, 24 years old... they're sitting on a goldmine, no doubt.

But they don't need to cash in, and if they're to progress and get closer to the 2-3 elite CL clubs, they can't. But everyone has their price I guess, and they're in a great position to hold anyone to ransom.
 
ESPN reporting that they've just been told that people close to Carrick are saying Utd are in discussions about him staying. Happy if true. Still playing at a decent level, and would keep much needed experience in the dressing room. Especially if the likes of Rooney, Young leave and Schweinstiger already gone.
 
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