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i think if jose wanted him it wouldnt matter if we nned to replace zlatan.maybe jose has changed his mind?or maybe its all political bullshit
 
From BBC-



1) Atletico's transfer ban doesn't effect their ability to sell the players. They can also buy players if they want too but they can't register them before 1st Jan 2018
2) Griezman has a buyout clause of 100m Euros. If United wants it and Griezmann wants to leave then he'll be an United player. Atletico can't stop him.
3) There'll be no tax on the buyout clause(the tax laws were changed). United will have to pay 100m Euros for his service and nothing more.
 
Theatre of dreams said:
From BBC-



1) Atletico's transfer ban doesn't effect their ability to sell the players. They can also buy players if they want too but they can't register them before 1st Jan 2018
2) Griezman has a buyout clause of 100m Euros. If United wants it and Griezmann wants to leave then he'll be an United player. Atletico can't stop him.
3) There'll be no tax on the buyout clause(the tax laws were changed). United will have to pay 100m Euros for his service and nothing more.
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so what do u think TOD,is the deal still very much on or dying fast?
 
Look guys, I'm all for freedom of the speech, but this is getting out of hands. Journos clearly know nothing, or very little. Informations keep changing every hour. Now X is coming, now X is not coming. Its tiresome to read last 10 pages. All the same. Can we keep that in Transfer Rumor thread please?
 
I'd personally like to see a journo who has actually gone through the spanish law governing these kind of situations (Decreto Real 1006/1985).

Now that Athletico's transfer ban has been upholded there is no chance of Griezmann transfer in any other way, but him buying out his contract and it is a legal procedure which will take time. Utd probably have fed information on journos that priorities have changed to cool off the situation and let lawyers work in quiet. Transfer most likely will happen, but will take some time.

Edit: On the earlier part the tax law has indeed changed and these kind of transfers arent liable for Value Added Tax (18%) anymore, but when player buys out his contract is tricky business as Griezmann doesn't have 100mil lying around and Utd can't give it straight to him unless they want it to be taxable so the deal has to be structured so Griezmann will likely loan out the money from Utd or some other entity to pay out the buy out clause.
 
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This is just my opinion, but I think Griezmann will stay at Atleti, here's why

-Diego Simeone:Simeone is staying at atleti for another year, so there is a chance that Simeone might convince him to stay and try to conquer Europe with him.
-Wanda Metropolitano:Atleti have a new stadium and maybe, Griezmann might want to play there and perform there.
-The fact that Atleti are almost unbeatable in UCL:Hear me out here.Yes, they lost to Bayern this year, but in the last few years(since La Decima), Atleti have reached two CL finals and the only team that has been able to knock them out has been real madrid, so if Real were to stumble early(they are due, what with 2 finals in a row and winning one(possibly both).
-Transfer Bans don't stop teams from selling players, they simply stop teams from registering new ones, so I think Simeone will try his best to keep Griez at Atleti for another year, because they cannot replace him, but finally it comes down to Griez

There is also the point that he could be afraid that he might regret leaving, just ask Pogba if he'd rather win a treble consisting of a league cup, 2nd tier european cup and a glorified friendly or have a chance at winning one consisting of a league, cup and Champions League.

Note:Don't think of this as me implying in a ny way that I don't want Griez here, I do, I just think that he'll stay there for this year and come next season
 
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Equilibrio said:
This is just my opinion, but I think Griezmann will stay at Atleti, here's why

-Diego Simeone:Simeone is staying at atleti for another year, so there is a chance that Simeone might convince him to stay and try to conquer Europe with him.
-Wanda Metropolitano:Atleti have a new stadium and maybe, Griezmann might want to play there and perform there.
-The fact that Atleti are almost unbeatable in UCL:Hear me out here.Yes, they lost to Bayern this year, but in the last few years(since La Decima), Atleti have reached two CL finals and the only team that has been able to knock them out has been real madrid, so if Real were to stumble early(they are due, what with 2 finals in a row and winning one(possibly both).
-Transfer Bans don't stop teams from selling players, they simply stop teams from registering new ones, so I think Simeone will try his best to keep Griez at Atleti for another year, because they cannot replace him, but finally it comes down to Griez

There is also the point that he could be afraid that he might regret leaving, just ask Pogba if he'd rather win a treble consisting of a league cup, 2nd tier european cup and a glorified friendly or have a chance at winning one consisting of a league, cup and Champions League.

Note:Don't think of this as me implying in a ny way that I don't want Griez here, I do, I just think that he'll stay there for this year and come next season
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Simeone staying won't have any impact, because it's been reported long after he decided to stay. That Griezmann will still move.

They have no chance of conquering Spain let alone Europe, especially as they can't sign any players now. And there main competition Bayern, Juve, Madrid, Barca are gonna spend big.

Wouldnt get to worried by recent reports just yet. Had BBC and the rest saying pretty similar with the Pogba deal. Let's wait and see lads :)


This is a very good take on where things stand. I would tend to agree with what is written in this link. Have a look and see if you agree:
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spts82
 
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Equilibrio said:
This is just my opinion, but I think Griezmann will stay at Atleti, here's why

-Diego Simeone:Simeone is staying at atleti for another year, so there is a chance that Simeone might convince him to stay and try to conquer Europe with him.
-Wanda Metropolitano:Atleti have a new stadium and maybe, Griezmann might want to play there and perform there. .....
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Not that it's a new view of mine on here, but I've personally thought that all along that they'll bring all the band back for one last go at everything in the new stadium. (Which I hate FWIW as the old ground was something else. But that's for another discussion.).

Those fans (best in Spain outside of Valencia in my experience), and, as much as I dislike his playing style, Simeone, deserves that with the fan/ team connection and one for all mentality he's fostered that is that sides strength.

Time will out but loyalty to the two is a very powerful factor that side of Madrid.
 
With Griezmann now potentially not coming (I still hope&believe :(..)
I feel we should go hard in on Fabinho and Lukaku/Morata/Belotti, maybe even Perisic?
And then focus on maybe getting a new LB/CB?
Potential Team?
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RedUnited said:
With Griezmann now potentially not coming (I still hope&believe :(..)
I feel we should go hard in on Fabinho and Lukaku/Morata/Belotti, maybe even Perisic?
And then focus on maybe getting a new LB/CB?
Potential Team?
View attachment 1117685​
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Rojo will be out till December I think. Looks good but it's not really resolving our GS issue from this season gone. All we have done is swapped 28 goal Zlatan and replaced him with Lukaku.
 
Theatre of dreams said:
This is a very good take on where things stand. I would tend to agree with what is written in this link. Have a look and see if you agree:
TwitLonger — When you talk too much for Twitter
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Guy has lot of things wrong in that tbh. Mixes release clause with buy-out and goes on about structuring of the deal when Griezmann if he indeed buys out his contract is required by spanish law to deposit the buy-out in full to spanish FA.

I also really doubt Athletico will negotiate. They were banking on getting replacements in and then they would most likely have agreed on a fee bit below the buy-out clause, but now I doubt there is another way of getting him then Griezmann himself triggering his buy-out clause.
 
100m euros for Griezzmann, I would pay it no questions asked, apart from structuring which we could try and negotiate.

Especially when you consider the absurd price Lukaku is going to go for anyway. Out of the two I'd rather bomb out for Griezzmann than Lukaku.

Lukaku will score goals and he is a good striker. But £80m for him is absolutely absurd.
 
id walk to spain myself if it meant getting griezmann,wouldnt pay more than 60 mil for lukaku but they wont accept that
 
RedUnited said:
With Griezmann now potentially not coming (I still hope&believe :(..)
I feel we should go hard in on Fabinho and Lukaku/Morata/Belotti, maybe even Perisic?
And then focus on maybe getting a new LB/CB?
Potential Team?
View attachment 1117685​
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Pff topic but what site do you make that on? - for future reference during the window.
 
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