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Should be like 6 mins of stoppage time cos of injuries and time wasting. We know it wont be though.
 
Theatre of dreams said:
His hold up play is terrible. Yes his link up play has improved. But hus work rate and interest in defensive duties is non existent!
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If you'd of added 'and doesn't do jack in a big game' you'd of encapsulated Lukaku.

That said, the way Utd play him is far less about his attitude in not being involved/ working like at Everton and them just wanting him as the predator in the box.
 
zzeezzy said:
Should be like 6 mins of stoppage time cos of injuries and time wasting. We know it wont be though.
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This holds are you finally gonna' put local bias/ obvious (and natural) hatred of City aside and concede they are by far and away the best side in this league and have it won already with a ridiculous 4 game lead barely into December?
 
I still don't rate City that much, I mean sure they are great at times (typical Pep team with their intricate passing and movement) but for me we just played right into their hands today. For far too long this match we were giving them acres and acres of space in our own half letting the likes of De Bruyne and Silva dictate play.That change when we went 2 up top should of happened a lot sooner and we gave them 2 goals. Having said all that. I just don't believe we have enough hope to claw that gap back and no one else will catch them so that's pretty much it for me with the league.
 
Lukaku gets to much hate, understandably he should score more and often, but for me it seems he is burned out. He PLAYS every game 90 minutes. 1.987' minutes compared to De Gea 1800. It is no excuse yeah, but goal scoring fault goes down also to Mou not only him.
 
City far better team! Bit early to be handing out trophies yet. But it’s gonna take a monumental slip up looking at it. No Pogba no party I’m afraid for Utd. Herrera has regressed. Runs around a lot but his passing and composure on the ball is pretty bad. And I noticed today a lot he follows the ball to much and is easily played around.

Young has been good. But we need a better one in these big games. Matic easily our best player today! Another good game from Lindelöf in the second half. Thought Smalling and Valencia were good.

We lose all attacking threat without Pogba. Which is shocking really. Feel sorry for our attacking players who are living off scraps without him.
 
We only ever showed any mild ambition TOD when we went 2 up top today. Before that Mourinho's plan was always going to result in City having tons of possession and creating chances. Yes, missing Pogba was key but the gameplan was dross and the tactics was dross. This is Manchester United and were relying on fooking hoofball to beat the press every time.
 
woolly said:
Scouse it isn't over until is mathematically impossible a certain Mr Keegan and a bunch of Newcastle fans can attest to that one. Plus City have been riding their luck over the last few games, they will come unstuck at some point.
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Your better example, for this thread, would be '85's Utd vintage that won the first 10 games and finished well off the pace.

But this City side isn't either of those. Thos is a top, TOP outfit. This City side can be in cruise control the rest of the year and still comfortably win the league.
 
Tyton said:
Jose is a dinosaur. More news at 11.
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Luckily for us he will be gone at end of next season at the latest.Grateful for some of the few things he has improved, stabilising us slightly but we need to build an identity that isn't all about being tall, physical and hoofing it.
 
zzeezzy said:
We only ever showed any mild ambition TOD when we went 2 up top today. Before that Mourinho's plan was always going to result in City having tons of possession and creating chances. Yes, missing Pogba was key but the gameplan was dross and the tactics was dross. This is Manchester United and were relying on fooking hoofball to beat the press every time.
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We simply don’t have the quality to out play City! 1 man CM today. Mourinho changes style and we play far less football when Pogba is missing.Not saying that’s right but our CMs are fairly poor apart from the starting 2. City just have far better squad. We know how Mourinho plays in big games.
 
Anthony said:
Few drinks today zzeezzy? ;)
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Started before the final whistle. Honestly though, Mourinho spends £500m since he's here give or take and he has us setup less of a threat than West Ham/Huddersfield were in last few games against City. That takes some doing.AND THATS AT OLD TRAFFORD... WTF WE GONNA BE LIKE AT THE ETIHAD.
 
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Theatre of dreams said:
We simply don’t have the quality to out play City! 1 man CM today. Mourinho changes style and we play far less football when Pogba is missing.Not saying that’s right but our CMs are fairly poor apart from the starting 2. City just have far better squad. We know how Mourinho plays in big games.
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Genuine question.... if the squads were reversed... Mourinho was their manager and Pep ours.... would we be seeing the same game today? Not a chance in ****. Mourinho has a team setup to play like this and it's disgusting to see a United side like this at home! We were defeated before the first whistle. Yes, I get mildly happy when we get a result, like Arsenal last week. But long-term under Mourinho we are going nowhere. We just rely on the short-term success which he won't be bringing this season unless a miracle CL win..... which won't happen.
 
Its not about scoring goals for Lukaku. Its how he plays. Thats why I made the Hernandez comparation. He offers way too little for top teams.
 
Vanjagl said:
Its not about scoring goals for Lukaku. Its how he plays. Thats why I made the Hernandez comparation. He offers way too little for top teams.
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Lukaku is always going to struggle when we are setup to play like this though in fairness.Yeh he was awful today, but he is a small part of a bigger problem.
 
Have to say, for all the good pieces of play City produce, those sly El Classico-esque trips and "tactical fouls" that somehow go unpunished 9 times out of 10, spoils the game.
 
RhQQ said:
Have to say, for all the good pieces of play City produce, those sly El Classico-esque trips and "tactical fouls" that somehow go unpunished 9 times out of 10, spoils the game.
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Yeh they have a real ugly side to their game, it's clever in a way. All the top teams do really, like even thinking back to the invincibles of Arsenal. Only difference is with them you knew they were nasty bastards, with City it isn't so obvious.
 
zzeezzy said:
Genuine question.... if the squads were reversed... Mourinho was their manager and Pep ours.... would we be seeing the same game today? Not a chance in ****. Mourinho has a team setup to play like this and it's disgusting to see a United side like this at home! We were defeated before the first whistle. Yes, I get mildly happy when we get a result, like Arsenal last week. But long-term under Mourinho we are going nowhere. We just rely on the short-term success which he won't be bringing this season unless a miracle CL win..... which won't happen.
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Cant believe your getting annoyed at Mourinho setting up like this as if it’s something new he started doing at Utd. He’s done it at every club he’s been at in tough games. Hasn’t stopped him bagging a **** load of trophies though.
 
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