The Manchester United Thread

What a horrific performance lmao. Some of you lot had the audacity to call me a troll when every single thing I said was the truth. The truth is hard to deal with. Imagine benching your best player because he wanted you to play to his strengths and not limit his abilities. Don't give me the sickness excuse, he played Herrera when he wasn't 100% fit. Also, I'd rather have a 50% fit pogba then any of herrera or mctominay. Anyway, I feel sorry for Mctominay, horrific player no doubt, but he shouldn't be part of mourinho's vendetta against Pogba. The club has a choice to make in the upcoming months, pick a finished manager who plays horrific, garbage & gutter football or stick with a generational talent in Pogba, who quite easily is our best player. Also, @ the people who say "Football is a results business, not for entertainment", why the **** do you even watch the game? Just google the score when the game finishes. Imagine having the audacity to say that, football has always been about entertainment!
 
Standard ***** away game. United poor. Home against Chelsea now, got to be better than that.
 
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I kind of agree, the entertainment value from United even when we were not at our best under Fergie was still sky high because we always had that instinct that we would come back or win the game late on.

Now there is no entertainment value, no real identity and we've lost that aura we once had where teams shat themselves and clung on for dear life at the end of games knowing we would go for it.

Core values for United that have been sadly lost. Not just because of Mourinho, it has been a process and combination of failed managerial regimes.
 
Mike. said:
Standard ***** away game. United poor. Home against Chelsea now, got to be better than that.
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Got the result though. Just 0-0's a funny one today the way teams attack. '70's/ '80's that's a great European away job. Today, always feel better with a 1-1. They score Utd, and you can see them not just sitting back, it then gets really panicky needing 2.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Got the result though. Just 0-0's a funny one today the way teams attack. '70's/ '80's that's a great European away job. Today, always feel better with a 1-1. They score Utd, and you can see them not just sitting back, it then gets really panicky needing 2.
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You kind of answered it yourself mate, in the modern game away goals are super important.

I'd argue Sevilla have the advantage now because for every one goal they score, we need two.

If we had of got that away goal, it would of given us that advantage and kind of security even if they do score at Old Trafford.
 
I can't work Sevilla out.

They aren't anything like the side they were when we played them Basle two seasons back for their third Europa League in a row. We played them off the park in three halves of footie this year, should have comfortably won both games, lead 4 times, and threw it away to drop 4 points. They got wallopped 5 by Spartak the group who are real poor. Sat what, 5th La Liga. Well outside the CL spots. Not a top outfit by any stretch of the imagination.

Yet they did draw twice with L'pool. Completely dominated Utd last night. And are coming off some ridiculous record of finals home and abroad the last 12 years or so including that record 5 UEFA Cup/ Europa League wins. Like Tottenham have always been here. A real dangerous cup side whenever you face them. Particularly at home in what I'd class, along with Besiktas their old ground, as the loudest and best home crowd I've personally experienced anywhere in recent times.

You naturally dismiss them as 'it's only Sevilla, that'll be an easy tie/ group game.' But they consistently show they are a real threat every year in Cup football regardless of who's playing for/ managing them to their credit.

Real credit to them and success story. Just a deceptive side you still madly underwrite when you pull them.
 
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BTW, probably not a popular opinion to voice on these here pages, but looking without a vested interest in Utd, the Sanchez signing has completely unbalanced your side. Aside from the salary issues potentially unbalancing the egos the changies. You didn't need a left winger as he's consistently playing him and it's knocked on to a couple of other players.
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I brought out this some time ago after Sanchez buy.
They dont seem to buy for system to play in. Dont get me wrong, they have bought amazing talent, but thats what they seem to be. Good talent, big name and hopefully do good. Ivan Perisic is Mou player(edit: and beneficial for team) Sanzhes is so so, could be but with different squad.

It really bothered me somehow, how plunt and emotionless Mou was during the game. He just sat in his chair and that was that. Everytime camera showed him he was just meh I wanna go home...
U need that motivation as a player. Even standing up showing some emotion will give u more than when watching towards bench everyone are sitting and chewing gum.
 
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Sanchez isn't the problem. The setup is. We've been struggling since before Sanchez

He shouldn't be playing on the left, should be on the right.

Jose has neglected the middle of the park
 
Jose has caused his own problems. So it's hard to feel sympathy for him. He freely admits that United play best when Pogba does. So it's a failure to not design the system round him.

Doing so would allow him to run the tempo, and United have enough players to finish the game.

The one weakness they have (chuckle brothers aside) is alongside Pogba.
 
Prior to Sanchez signing - when Pogba was advanced left of a midfield trident, he, Martial & Luke Shaw had a beautiful thing going on. Since then, we've switched back to 4-2-3-1, signed Sanchez, stop-started Pogba, and started to prefer Ashley Young as opposed to Shaw.

We've lost fluidity as a result. Coincidence?

Want to see this soon;

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Mike. said:
Sanchez isn't the problem. The setup is. We've been struggling since before Sanchez

He shouldn't be playing on the left, should be on the right.

Jose has neglected the middle of the park
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His thinking is just mad here at such a crucial stage the season with the top 4 race so finally balanced. Like when Keegan brought in Asprilla and totally disrupted the balance of that Newcastle side to Utd's gain.

You think he's going all in the European Cup with the mad money paid for Sanchez. Then he goes and does it at a cost of Utd's two best young talents. Martial, in particular, was in a rich vein of form the left which has now gone to ****. Rashford is just totally in limbo with no rotating the left with Martial. The pace out of the front three has gone with neither and Mata the right. Pogba's being shifted around to accommodate this and his form his gone the same way as Martials.

And Mourinho being Mourinho, he's seemingly too arrogantly stubborn to look at himself and switch them around to positions that suit and give that balance back.

All unnecessarily self-created problems that could implode on him like Chelsea if he's not careful.
 
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Apparently united became the first team to keep a clean sheet against Sevilla away in the CL and the first team to do it in Europe since Mainz in 07 given all the home games they’ve had in Europa league games pretty impressive
 
Kudos to De Gea lol.

In fairness we were well organized, I just think we paid them too much respect.
 
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Apparently united became the first team to keep a clean sheet against Sevilla away in the CL and the first team to do it in Europe since Mainz in 07 given all the home games they’ve had in Europa league games pretty impressive
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As sterile as it was, impressive indeed.

They've a ridiculous record that stadium. Not lost there in well over a season? Paraphrasing, but it's something like 80 some European games there and only 7/8 defeats. And the Spanish National side has never lost there. Spain need a win in a vital qualifier, they always switch it Seville.

Stupendous home field advantage.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
As sterile as it was, impressive indeed.

They've a ridiculous record that stadium. Not lost there in well over a season? Paraphrasing, but it's something like 80 some European games there and only 7/8 defeats. And the Spanish National side has never lost there. Spain need a win in a vital qualifier, they always switch it Seville.

Stupendous home field advantage.
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That's what annoyed me though. I've long spoken about their home record, so I'm happy on that front, bit we definitely had enough to beat them at home too. That said they are average away from home. And I don't worry about the away goal because if we can't score more than one goal at home against them then we don't deserve to be in the tournament
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
As sterile as it was, impressive indeed.

They've a ridiculous record that stadium. Not lost there in well over a season? Paraphrasing, but it's something like 80 some European games there and only 7/8 defeats. And the Spanish National side has never lost there. Spain need a win in a vital qualifier, they always switch it Seville.

Stupendous home field advantage.
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Thats why they could not get it pass DDG. Overpowered on that stadium.
 
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