The Manchester United Thread

Scouseinthehouse said:
The bufoons all over Utd Twitter/ SM. Who also seem convinced he's a mentor to Klopp.

It's all quite amusing reading.
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Klopp praises the fella once and he's his mentor. Didn't you know that mate?

I do recall Klopp specifically mentioning Wolfgang Frank as his main influence so I'm shocked no one even plays the clip
 
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Legend Incredible said:
Klopp praises the fella once and he's his mentor. Didn't you know that mate?

I do recall Klopp specifically mentioning Wolfgang Frank as his main influence so I'm shocked no one even plays the clip
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BOOM! And LMAO at the first line.

Yeah, he's referenced Frank a few times now from Mainz as the coach who opened his eyes up to a whole new way of playing. And gave him the bug for being a coach and teaching. He was the one who really brought the pressing into the Bundesliga to what it is today as he was a disciple of another major influence on Jürgen. Arrigo Sacchi. Sacchi's 4-4-2 work without the ball was revolutionary to the German libero way of playing. Guys like Ragnick (who I have the utmost respect for in his similar ideals on football to Jürgen. Even if I can't personally see that translating at Utd given the mess above him. Interim, and then just a consultancy role, is not the way you go with that man. You give him the key's and let him build it from the ground up. But I'm staying clear of that as you've finally got something to look forward to), have just added little tweaks to that which naturally Klopp and others have taken from.

Just amusing me how until a week or so ago, they did nottin' but try pull Jürgen down. Now, he's got his master who Klopps a disciple of down the road and they can't help referencing Klopp every other post. 🤦🏼‍♂️

But like you opened with there, there's no accounting for the delusions of clickbait journo's and internet divvy's who bounce off them.
 
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Scouseinthehouse said:
. Even if I can't personally see that translating at Utd given the mess above him. Interim, and then just a consultancy role, is not the way you go with that man. You give him the key's and let him build it from the ground up.
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Get outta here with your logic Scouse 😂

But in all seriousness, I agree he needs absolute control of everything from top to bottom but that's power I've never seen anyone at united have since Fergie.

Time will tell the reach of this "consultancy" role as it's really vague. Could be a DOF-lite role that would see him still have a significant say in any decision that gets made by Murtough/Fletcher. He could also just have a "vote" that can easily be overridden as well (which would be my worst case scenario).
 
Won’t be long before he’s replacing AWB as starting FB/WB imo.

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It all sounds good on paper but you gotta wonder how many top managers would be willing to work with some "consultant" on top of them.
 
Tyton said:
It all sounds good on paper but you gotta wonder how many top managers would be willing to work with some "consultant" on top of them.
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Depends if that "consultant" is the main guy who brings in the manager or someone picks the next manager over his head. Then there would be clashes inside the club even more.
 
Tyton said:
It all sounds good on paper but you gotta wonder how many top managers would be willing to work with some "consultant" on top of them.
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Top managers are still willing to work at Chelsea where you know you have little control over recruitment and the runnings of the club lol.

Plus, Rangnick would have a huge say in whom gets appointment so I'm sure he'd work seamlessly with his pick.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
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Which one?

The tart who's had nothing relevant to say since he was playing for us 20 odd years ago and should be nowhere near a TV screen?

Or his gobshite dad who wears his ball sack over his face?
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The original scaldy Aul wagon.
 
Manchester United has announced the membership of its new Fans’ Advisory Board, which has been set up to strengthen dialogue between the club and supporters, and increase fan input into decision-making.

Seven fan representatives from a range of backgrounds have been appointed to the FAB, on a voluntary basis, to provide counsel to club leaders and create a new channel for consultation with fans.

The FAB will be co-chaired by Christopher Saad, an experienced barrister and life-long Manchester United fan, and Richard Arnold, the club’s Group Managing Director.


Saad grew up in Greater Manchester among a family of United fans and has attended Old Trafford regularly for over 25 years.

As a leading barrister with a specialism in sports law, he has represented clients in football-related cases and holds membership of disciplinary panels for several national sports governing bodies.

Saad was the unanimous choice as Co-Chair following an extensive search process. The selection panel included club leaders, representatives of the Fans’ Forum, the club’s existing fan representative body, and the independent Manchester United Supporters’ Trust (MUST).


The FAB is designed to create a channel for in-depth board-level consultation, with a focus on long-term strategic issues, including stadium development. It will operate in parallel with the Fans’ Forum, which will continue to focus on operational issues affecting fans.

Two members of the Fans’ Forum, Ian Stirling and Rick McGagh, have been elected by fellow Forum members to join the FAB, ensuring a strong connection between the two bodies.

Also on the FAB will be Jonathan Deitch and Duncan Drasdo, Chair and Chief Executive of MUST, respectively.

The other two fan places will be taken by Deborah Henry, Chair of the Manchester United Women’s Supporters’ Club, and Oli Winton, a senior communications consultant and long-time United fan activist.

Dave Pennington, a retired senior civil servant and board member of MUST and the Football Supporters’ Association, has been appointed Special Adviser to the Co-Chairs.

Meetings of the FAB will take place four times a year, with five senior club leaders also part of its permanent membership in addition to Arnold as Co-Chair.

Joel Glazer, the club’s Co-Chairman, will attend the inaugural meeting in January.

The FAB was part of a package of measures proposed by Glazer last June to strengthen the club’s relationship with fans and the club has been working with fan groups to implement these since then. Other initiatives included a Fans’ Share Scheme to create a path for supporters to build a meaningful ownership stake in the club over time. Advanced talks are continuing with MUST about the details of the proposed share scheme.


Collette Roche, Manchester United Chief Operating Officer, said: “The launch of the Fans’ Advisory Board is an historic step to ensure that the supporters’ perspective is always heard and understood right up to the highest levels of the club. This will improve decision-making and reduce the risk of conflict with fans on the most important issues.

“We agree with the independent Fan-Led Review of Football Governance that fans must have a strong voice in the running of the game, and we believe that our Fans’ Advisory Board and proposed Fans’ Share Scheme are consistent with that important goal.

“We are delighted to have attracted such a high calibre of individuals to the Board, all with a strong passion for United combined with the skills to advocate on behalf of fans. I am looking forward to working with Chris and the other representatives to get the Board up and running and establish a key role for it at the heart of the club.”


Christopher Saad said: “I’m delighted to have this opportunity to combine my professional skills with my lifelong passion for Manchester United as the first fan Co-Chair of the Fans’ Advisory Board.

“I firmly believe that we will establish a positive new model for fan engagement in football. Sometimes there will be agreement, sometimes we will challenge hard. We will not shy away from frank discussion.

“Our aim is to widen the areas of consensus and narrow differences, and to help maintain a healthy and successful football club which is in tune with its supporters.

“I look forward to working with my fellow fan representatives and club leaders in achieving those aims.”

https://www.manutd.com/en/news/deta...-board-to-strengthen-dialogue-with-supporters
 
Legend Incredible said:
Top managers are still willing to work at Chelsea where you know you have little control over recruitment and the runnings of the club lol.

Plus, Rangnick would have a huge say in whom gets appointment so I'm sure he'd work seamlessly with his pick.
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I sure hope for your sake this goes well mate as it's hard to separate who's given funnier entertainment between Utd or Everton this season.

The comedy's been that good, there's a spot on the comedy circuit waiting if it doesn't.
 
One player who will be under scrutiny that many are not talking about under Ragnick is AWB. Ragnick always had/bought in technically gifted attack wingback/fullbacks. That can link up play in the attacking transitions.
 
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Paperwork has now been completed for Ralf Rangnick to take over as Man United interim coach. Plan is still for him to watch from the stands tonight, was at OT and Carrington yesterday. Will be in the dugout for Crystal Palace game on Sunday.
 
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