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he wants to sign for us and then go out on loan, so he is hping united can reach some agreement


Would you want to spend 9 million on him Mr Madsheep?

Is he really highly rated in France? I dont know too many French young defenders bar Sakho that are bein talked about tbh
 
Would you want to spend 9 million on him Mr Madsheep?

Is he really highly rated in France? I dont know too many French young defenders bar Sakho that are bein talked about tbh

he is very highly rated in france. the 9 million is staged, and the reason its that high is becuase in lens eyes you are not buying a young player, you are buying a first teamer
 
he wants to sign for us and then go out on loan, so he is hping united can reach some agreement

Thats a good sign but we are stacked in that dept and from what i have read he is not that good as a DM. He has excellent physical attributes, just needs tuning to be a good player. We should sign him and send him back on loan to other French league team..

Would you want to spend 9 million on him Mr Madsheep?

Is he really highly rated in France? I dont know too many French young defenders bar Sakho that are bein talked about tbh

That is 9 Million Euros. I would say its a worthy risk. 9 Million is not a big amount and in few years we have to pay 2X or 3X to sign the player. He is very highly rated..
 
Thats a good sign but we are stacked in that dept and from what i have read he is not that good as a DM. He has excellent physical attributes, just needs tuning to be a good player. We should sign him and send him back on loan to other French league team..



That is 9 Million Euros. I would say its a worthy risk. 9 Million is not a big amount and in few years we have to pay 2X or 3X to sign the player. He is very highly rated..

he was actually pretty good at DM, they shifted him there after injury, and was good enough to hold it down there and at MC. His wages would be low too, good risk imo

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Manchester United set to enter bidding war for Tottenham's Luka Modric
• Tottenham's Croatian midfielder happy to talk to United
• Price may be £35m-plus as Chelsea and City retain interest


Manchester United set to enter bidding war for Tottenham's Luka Modric | Football | The Guardian

Luka Modric would be open to joining Manchester United if Sir Alex Ferguson starts a bidding war with Chelsea by following the west London club in making an official offer for the Tottenham Hotspur midfielder.

After Chelsea had an initial £22m offer rejected, United are considering their options before deciding when to enter the market for a player openly admired by Ferguson, who claims he is the best footballer in England. Manchester City, the Premier League's richest club, also retain an interest and if their billionaire owner, Sheikh Mansour, enters the auction to land Modric then Spurs can expect his price to rise beyond £35m.

While Tottenham maintain that Modric is not for sale Nikky Vuksan, Modric's representative, said the Croatian would consider an offer from United if the north London club allowed him to do so. "Exactly. If that was the Spurs position then we would be happy to sit with the club and discuss for the future," Vuksan said, before being careful to emphasise Modric is not agitating for a move.

"He's happy at Spurs. Any offer that comes [in] for him, it's up to the decision of Tottenham Hotspur if they want to reject it or accept it. We have a great partnership with Tottenham and there's not been [any] activity on our behalf that we would do on our own.

"Everything is in coordination with Spurs, and it's all up to the chairman, Daniel Levy, to decide. [Luka's] under contract, he's happy there [and] he's willing to try to win the Premiership with Spurs and play Champions League [the] next season."

Yet despite that, Vuksan conceded that Modric wants to play in the Champions League each season, a prospect not on offer for him from Tottenham in the next campaign. "Of course. He loves the Champions League experience, it was a great honour for Sir Alex to say something like this and he uses it only as a motivation to continue on such a level," he said.

Asked how Modric reacted when he was told of the bid from Chelsea, Vuksan said: "I'm sorry it's inappropriate for me to say what he thinks about it. Obviously he respects the decision of the club [to turn the offer down]."

Pressed if Modric would prefer a move to Chelsea, United, City, or even Arsenal, Vuksan added: "This is a constant question and I'm sorry I really can't comment."

Regarding what comprises a realistic valuation for Modric, Vuksan said it would not be unexpected if an offer of up to £40m was eventually made for him. "Of course, I don't think it would be [to] anybody's surprise. If you ask me, Modric is one of the best and one of the probably most expensive players in the world," he said of a player who is only 25 and so is yet to reach his peak. "He's going to keep improving and get better and better."

United, meanwhile, have turned their interest in Raphaël Varane into a formal bid, offering Lens £9.2m for a teenager who fits into their policy of recruiting potential stars of the future.

Lens have provisionally accepted United's offer, though the matter is complicated. Varane has begun his Baccalaureate exams and may delay his decision until they are finished, while his excitement about moving to Old Trafford is tempered by reservations that he will be joining a club which has an established central defensive partnership in Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic, plus Phil Jones, Chris Smalling and Jonny Evans in reserve.

Varane is keen to arrange a loan in his first season, possibly meaning he will stay in France, and if that is not possible with United he must decide whether he would be better off signing for a team where he would get more games.
 
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Good run in for the season.
 
Looks as though we may play Chelsea, Liverpool & CL knockout stage one after the other in Feb
 
Worry not.. We will have this player..

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I can dream :)
 
Where Will Ashley Young Fit in Manchester United?

Where Will Ashley Young Fit in Manchester United? - WhoScored.com

by Paul McKinnon at Saturday, Jun 11 2011 10:50

It seems Man United are wasting little time in lining up their prime targets early this transfer window, with the news that Ashley Young is on the verge of a move to Old Trafford from Aston Villa. With Nani, Antonio Valencia and Ji Sung-Park the main three wingers for the champions, and with Ryan Giggs still capable of the occasional shift out wide in addition to the options offered by Gabriel Obertan, it appeared as if Sir Alex Ferguson’s side were sufficiently covered for wingers.

Young’s appearances as a winger were limited last season, though, as he played out wide on just 12 of his 34 appearances; the other 22 saw him in the hole behind a lone striker. Where will he be expected to fit in when he starts for United? The club’s two main formations last season were 4-4-2 (played in 24 league games) and 4-3-3, an alternative Sir Alex Ferguson turned to on 7 occasions; both these systems certainly suggest a role out wide for Young. Here we analyse his performances out wide and through the middle last term to highlight what he will bring to Man United.

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Ashley Young as a Winger (12 games, 1 goal, 3 assists)
2.08 Key Passes, 1.75 Shots per game, 0.5 Successful Dribbles, Pass Accuracy 69.7%

For United, Nani and Antonio Valencia offer plenty more creativity from the wings, with 2.36 and 2.3 Key Passes respectively to Young’s 2.08. Park-hardly known for his passing- is poor in comparison, however, with 1.07. Young has far greater goal threat than Valencia and Park, averaging 1.75 Shots per game compared to 0.3 and 0.7 Shots.

His Successful Dribbles are surprisingly very low- just 0.5 per game- Nani has 2.5 and Valencia 1.5 and Young’s Pass Accuracy -69.7%- fares badly against the three United players, with Nani the lowest on 80% and both Valencia and Park on 86%.

In terms of creativity from the wing, Young’s 2.08 Key Passes are similar to the likes of Samir Nasri (1.93), Aaron Lennon (1.94) and Raul Meireles (2.0). Again, his Successful Dribbles are remarkably poor in comparison, with Nasri and Lennon managing 2.1 and 1.6 respectively, an indication of what is perhaps lacking in his game. Meireles-who’s better through the middle- matches Young’s Successful Dribbles with 0.5. Young’s goal threat is the same as Nasri, with 1.75 Shots per game compared to 1.7, though his finishing is far from impressive, with just 1 goal in his 12 games as a winger.

Ashley Young as an Attacking Midfielder (22 games, 6 goals, 7 assists)
2.4 Key Passes, 2.27 Shots per game, 0.54 Successful Dribbles, Pass Accuracy 70.9%.

Young’s attacking stats here are similar to that of the threat Rafael Van der Vaart offers for Spurs; 2.4 to 2.39 Key Passes, 0.54 to 0.7 Successful Dribbles and 2.27 to 2.9 Shots per game, just edging it in the Dutchman’s favour. He loses possession less than Van der Vaart though, 3.24 times per game compared to 4.0, though once again, his Pass Accuracy suffers, 70.9% to Van der Vaart’s 84%.

While his distribution and runs with the ball remain virtually the same, Young’s creative and goal threat in the hole jumps considerably when compared to his stats as a winger; his Shots per game increase by 0.52 and Key Passes by 0.32. Playing central clearly suits his eye for goal, too; he grabbed a goal every 3.6 games, compared to his 1 in 12 out wide.

Young’s Key Passes here are a match to Nani and Valencia’s out wide; a 4-2-3-1 with this trio behind a lone front man could wreak havoc, should Sir Alex consider a change in shape and personnel from game to game. Overall, his Passing and Successful Dribbles need to be worked on should the move to Old Trafford be finalised, irrespective of where Young is fielded by Sir Alex Ferguson.

Finally, a look at how he fared against his prospective new club last term. Young’s two performances against Man United shows he made 5 Key Passes, had 4 Shots, 2 On Target, and scored 1 Goal against the champions. He failed to make a Key Pass in just three games last season- at home to Stoke as a left winger and away to both Wolves and Fulham, playing in the hole in a 4-5-1. West Ham suffered the most at the hands of Young’s creativity- he made 11 Key Passes (picking up 2 Assists) over two games against Avram Grant’s doomed side, also managing 7 Shots.
 
Could Young not be signed as a striker, Where he played for Watford. Like a deeper striker, whilst we have a advanced forward uptop( breaking it into simple FM-base terms)
 
Could Young not be signed as a striker, Where he played for Watford. Like a deeper striker, whilst we have a advanced forward uptop( breaking it into simple FM-base terms)

That would mean operating in Rooneys area. Can only see him there whenever Rooney is injured/rested/deployed as the lone striker
 
That would mean operating in Rooneys area. Can only see him there whenever Rooney is injured/rested/deployed as the lone striker

Well it gives us another Option. Thats my thinking, as Young is going to be rotation, I think we might see him popping up in many positions.
 
Well it gives us another Option. Thats my thinking, as Young is going to be rotation, I think we might see him popping up in many positions.

Oh most certainly, that was my main reasoning as to why we would sign him. Still not keen on him mind, but he may yet convert me
 
Oh most certainly, that was my main reasoning as to why we would sign him. Still not keen on him mind, but he may yet convert me

I am fairly happy with the signing, He is english, Quick, Good on the ball and can play everywhere, and most importantly Fergie signed him.
 
I am fairly happy with the signing, He is english, Quick, Good on the ball and can play everywhere, and most importantly Fergie signed him.

His recent england peformances have warmed me to him more, but still. Anyway would be unfair of me to dismiss him. If/when he does sign will give him full support
 
His recent england peformances have warmed me to him more, but still. Anyway would be unfair of me to dismiss him. If/when he does sign will give him full support

Dont talk about Dismissing, I had a conversation with about 5 members of this site on MSN a year ago, and i moaned and raged at the signings of yeah Chicarito.. How stupid i felt, after that, i learnt never to dismiss anyone again.
 
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