Exactly, Baines is an upgrade, but I figure club shouldn't be looking for long term replacement for Evra rather then buying slightly-better-but-not-the youngest player who has propably 3 years of quality football in him.
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Exactly, Baines is an upgrade, but I figure club shouldn't be looking for long term replacement for Evra rather then buying slightly-better-but-not-the youngest player who has propably 3 years of quality football in him.
It's all a question of who's value you're speaking about. United value him at about 12 or so million, since they have three LBs and don't NEED Baines like they need a CM. Everton, on the other hand, value him at something like 20-25 million, since their entire team is built around him. In terms of real market value, he's probably worth something in between the two valuations.
He's a big enough upgrade to make it worth it for the right price, I'd say.
You don't trust any British player that comes from Villa? The vast majority of British players who have left Villa, particularly recently, have done good work for their latest teams. It just so happened that Downing was a flash in the pan and Young turned out to be a bad small fish in a big pond (as I suspected), and those two were the most high-profile departures. And it's not like there's something endemic in Villa youngsters that makes them only good at Villa, it's just those two were always candidates for failing outside of Villa because of their individual attributes. ****, I predicted both could've been a bit dodgy, though admittedly not to these levels.
In addition, I don.t trust any brittish plazer. **** this kezboard-
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It's obvious Everton are expecting a lot more than 28m for Fellaini and Baines as a package due to the "derisory and insulting" comments they released publicly. So Baines won't come cheap and I don't think it's an area we need to focus on. It's just midfield, midfield and midfield which is the main priority. We simply have to get someone in before the end of the window there.
Off the top of my head, I can name Marcelo, Baines, Alaba, Alba... and I guess that's about it. That's the top echelon of LBs right now, there's really not many at all.
You forgot Antonio Luna.
Tony Moon! He's already scored one, he's on for double figures this season.
I was wondering to myself, now there may be a far better reason than this. But why would Everton publicly announce these bids for Baines and Fellaini? I mean surely if our bid was that bad they wouldn't want the press to know about it unless for one reason (to get more money and sell them).
Because by doing this they are more than likely unsettling the players by publicising it so I don't quite get that move by Everton. Unless they both want to leave so Everton as trying to get as much as possible for them. Personally I think £35m would be a fair price.
Because by doing this they are more than likely unsettling the players by publicising it so I don't quite get that move by Everton. Unless they both want to leave so Everton as trying to get as much as possible for them. Personally I think £35m would be a fair price.
To force your hand obviously. It's not like players or their agents learn from the bids from papers. I doubt any bid for less than £40m will force Everton to sell. Their team is build around these two and losing them at this point of transfer window would most likely ruin their season.
£35m and give em Buttner. Problem solved.
And Coentrao, on one of his good days. Possibly Filipe Luís as well.
Filipe Luis is a bit of a stretch, and Coentrao I haven't seen huge amounts of recently so I can't really comment. I guess Lahm can fit in there as well given he's just as effective on both flanks, but the point is it's an incredibly elite group.
Head-to-head: Moyes chases Baines, but would he be that much better than Evra
Leighton Baines v Patrice Evra head-to-head: is the Everton man better than the Manchester United left back? | Mail Online
Source: Opta
Evra won 2.4 per cent more of his tackles, blocked twice as many shots, and was much more willing to put his head in where it hurts - he won 62.2 per cent of his 111 aerial duels, compared to
just 39.3 per cent of 28 aerial duels for Baines.
The Manchester United captain also made more than twice the number of clearances, 165 to 75, and nearly three times as many headed clearances, 111 to 36. Baines did win more of his ground duels, 61 per cent to 52.4 per cent, however.
Although Baines is known for his free-kick taking, he only scored one more goal over the course of the season, as Evra used his potency in the air to become an attacking threat from corners. In fact he only attempted three more shots than Evra despite playing four more matches.
Evra is known for his fiery temper and fierce competitive spirit but their disciplinary records for last season are surprisingly similar. Evra committed 34 fouls picking up three yellow cards, while Baines gave away 30 free-kicks with four yellow cards. Neither was sent off in 2012-13
Leighton Baines v Patrice Evra head-to-head: is the Everton man better than the Manchester United left back? | Mail Online
Not quite sure stats always tell the right story. I mean you have to bear in mind Evra plays for the champions and Baines plays for Everton (no disrespect to them intended).
Then just look at them chances created, holy sheesh kebab! I'd love Baines just for that reason. Not to mention he's just a fantastic Left Back.
You can also twist the stat of chance creation saying ManUtd have higher caliber players and the game flows more through them and we don't depend on LB to whip in cross everytime.
I agree stat won't reveal complete story but Baines is not lot better than Evra as mentioned many times here (after poor 1 nad half season people can't see what Evra brings to our team), Evra is superb in the air and with Rafael and Baines as our full backs there are more chances that we will be murdered aerially and for sure if Vidic is not playing.