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Interesting read for Young sceptics.
Interesting read for Young sceptics.
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Interesting, yes, but reeks of poor research and putting a ridiculous skew on situations. I've made my feelings extremely clear on his set-piece taking, but "has played recently like he wants to leave Aston Villa"? What does that mean? Does it mean he's just played BADLY? In which case, why the **** is he using that to back up his argument?
it means, you can see he is frustrated and doesnt really want to be there, Loads of players dont put in 100% when they dont want to be at a club, That isnt a strange thing.
He plays exactly the same as he has done for the past two seasons, and I give you my word on that, having watched almost all of the time he's played during that period. Unless he's wanted to leave for three seasons straight and done nothing about it (VERY unlikely) then the whole "he's frustrated and has his mind set on other things" is bullshit. Whilst I don't pretend to know everything about the inner workings of the club, according to insiders (Kendrick and Abraham) it went something like this: Young sat down with the manager and said he wanted to leave. He still likes the club and appreciates all we've done for him, but he wants to move on. So if the club accept reasonable bids for him, he'll perform until he leaves.
Also, to say he's 'carried' Villa this season (from the article) is laughable: Downing, Reo-Coker and latterly Bent have carried the team and indeed Young if anything.
Fair shout, Tbh the only time i have seen him play is For England this season, and he looked very good. I wouldnt mind him and who am i to argue with Sir Alex Ferguson if he signs him.
We've covered the ashley young thing really well in the last few weeks, so you know my feelings on him
I'd rather Bale than him
I'd rather have no one than either, thats how much i dont want us to spend money on them
I havent been here, So yeah, Why wouldnt you want Either, Granted bale is over priced and media hyped up, but Young for 15ish million cant be bad.
Honestly, I think he'd be good for you, I really do. His attitude is questionable, but that can be fixed by Ferguson. He's an awful indirect freekick taker and only a marginally better direct one, but you have others that can do that. Most of the flaws of his game can be fixed by moving to United.
Tbf though, Bale would be much more expensive and a less versatile player. I think having Evra and Bale on the same flank would make you a bit too predictable, with two up and down wingers on either side. Still, agree that you have other things to focus on first.
Forget you werent here, For the price he would cost Bale simply does not have enough on his game, could be get better and more rounded? maybe, but given that side isnt a priority dont want to fork out the 40m it would cost to get him.
Ashley Young's temprament and selfishness really irks me, we just spent 3 seasons coaxing that out of Nani, and i still have some misgiving as to whether he's (young) consistently that good, cant say hes really shown for some time and again when that side isnt a priority
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Youngs an odd one. One day he has a great game then goes quiet for a few weeks. Don't think United need to strengthen that area particularly - Nani and Valencia are good enough for me.
CM is needed, to fill the void left by Scholes when he hangs up his boots but this is all a given, dont think it really needs debating as everyone can see that. Hopefully Fergie was watching Marchisio for Nevilles testimonial, hes a good player and would do well for United I reckon. Love to see him in the prem
CM is needed, to fill the void left by Scholes when he hangs up his boots but this is all a given, dont think it really needs debating as everyone can see that. Hopefully Fergie was watching Marchisio for Nevilles testimonial, hes a good player and would do well for United I reckon. Love to see him in the prem
Sneijder: was fuming that we didnt go after him at real. i want him at the club as a priorty signing
as we were discussing on the Man Utd vs Barcelona Thread, why not Falcao instead of El Kun, would be a relatively cheaper option and he does have bags of ability
If we sign Aguero that means either he or Hernandez will end up on bench. I don't think Aguero would be pleased as third striker.
already brought that up. aguero is my preferred option wouldnt complain with either though. still wouldnt stunt hernandez's growth either
would make more sense to sign Falcao tbh, I think he would go for 20m-25m although it is true that Aguero has the potential to be miles better than Falcao, mayeb Utd can get Aguero at a subsidised fee in a makeweight deal by offering Berba in return along with 15-20m, anyone can see that happening?
think 30 and you're closer. There is an obession with height but aguero suits our current game more
**** them all, sign Rossi. Would be perfect signing for us, plus home grown too.. Would love to see our player back playing for us.. He was such a talent, and i think we do have first refusal or buy back clause.. If Berbatov leaves and we need to sign a striker, then for me it has to be Rossi. Brilliant hold up play for the player of his size, excellent dribbler and also good finisher. He has goals written all over him.. He is a class act..
But we have Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck, Macheda, Diouf, so doubt we will go for him as Welbeck has shown lot of promise.
Joshua King has gone out on loan, read rumor that there is a clause to make it permanent, hope it is just a rumor as he was superb with reserves and deserves a chance with us.
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RT @jouracule: Five FC Barca players wanted to swap shirts w/Scholes last night, I'm not making this up, Andrés Iniesta beat them all to it.
But we have Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck, Macheda, Diouf, so doubt we will go for him as Welbeck has shown lot of promise.
Joshua King has gone out on loan, read rumor that there is a clause to make it permanent, hope it is just a rumor as he was superb with reserves and deserves a chance with us.
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RT @jouracule: Five FC Barca players wanted to swap shirts w/Scholes last night, I'm not making this up, Andrés Iniesta beat them all to it.
Here's what I VMed Mike, I'll share it here:
"Curtis: On aguero, we dont really play with height anyway and welbeck and macheda would offer that as back up. even Falcao who would fit what scott was asking for would cost nearly 30m"
You could play with height though, Nani and Valencia send in a lot of crosses. I know Chicharito is great at picking them out and scoring but if you had a tall player who is good in the air it would be a very nice complement to Chicha and Rooney (whereas Kun doesn't really bring anything very new to the table). You do have Welbeck and Macheda though, meaning you shouldn't get another player at all. 30 million is a lot less than 40, but even then you shouldn't be spending tens of millions so that you can bench Chicharito and stunt the development of Welbeck and Macheda. Especially considering the other areas that need shoring up.
Kun would be great for you guys but no way you should spend 40 million on a player to bench your new shining star, and as big as your budget is, you need around 40 million for Sneijder and 20 million on a keeper (I bet that's how much De Gea is costing you though I'm not sure if the numbers are public yet). Then I'd spend 20-30 on a top-class destroyer DM, and maybe 5-10 million on a back-up keeper since Foster's leaving. That's almost a hundred million quid right there, and I think that's plenty for one transfer window. But if for whatever reason you wanted to make one more big signing on top of that (30-40 range) to ensure that you'd be a super talented team, than sign a top-class winger. Then, after all that, if you feel the need for one more striker if Berba leaves (still not a good idea IMO because it would crowd out all the youngsters), he should be some sort of Plan B type, and he shouldn't be 40 million.
"Curtis: On aguero, we dont really play with height anyway and welbeck and macheda would offer that as back up. even Falcao who would fit what scott was asking for would cost nearly 30m"
You could play with height though, Nani and Valencia send in a lot of crosses. I know Chicharito is great at picking them out and scoring but if you had a tall player who is good in the air it would be a very nice complement to Chicha and Rooney (whereas Kun doesn't really bring anything very new to the table). You do have Welbeck and Macheda though, meaning you shouldn't get another player at all. 30 million is a lot less than 40, but even then you shouldn't be spending tens of millions so that you can bench Chicharito and stunt the development of Welbeck and Macheda. Especially considering the other areas that need shoring up.
Kun would be great for you guys but no way you should spend 40 million on a player to bench your new shining star, and as big as your budget is, you need around 40 million for Sneijder and 20 million on a keeper (I bet that's how much De Gea is costing you though I'm not sure if the numbers are public yet). Then I'd spend 20-30 on a top-class destroyer DM, and maybe 5-10 million on a back-up keeper since Foster's leaving. That's almost a hundred million quid right there, and I think that's plenty for one transfer window. But if for whatever reason you wanted to make one more big signing on top of that (30-40 range) to ensure that you'd be a super talented team, than sign a top-class winger. Then, after all that, if you feel the need for one more striker if Berba leaves (still not a good idea IMO because it would crowd out all the youngsters), he should be some sort of Plan B type, and he shouldn't be 40 million.
Crouch is tall striker, Bale is excellent crosser but still it didn't work that way. Cahill is a short guy but still scores so many headers. What we need is not a tall striker, a complete one like Rooney (If ever we need one)
Kun brings lot the table, he gives us an option to switch to 4-3-3 playing as inside forward, cutting in from left wing. But still i prefer Rossi
We dont have fixed starting 11. Our depth in squad is our strength. We had Cole, Yorke, Teddy, Solskjaer. 4 top class strikers. Fergie loves to have 4 good strikers.
Rooney, Chicharito, Welbeck, Aguero/Rossi/Berbatov would be great with Macheda going out on loan.
And regarding your last bit, I really doubt we will spend that much. De Gea, plus a good CM and other young potentially great player is what we get me thinks..