Not that sucessful, certainly not internationally, or that much continentally. That fact is that was the way we should have been playing, or at least our own brand of it.
I don't think its a problem, that wasn't the way English football was played at that time and it was very successful.
I don't think its a problem, that wasn't the way English football was played at that time and it was very successful.
I don't think it is, i'm a believer of use the tactics that suits you not follow everyone else. Lets be honest, before 2008 Spain didn't really do much better than England in major tournaments and English football was more dominating (with the exception of the galaticos for a few years). Why should we have changed?
If Xavi himself admits that Scholes is better than him then surely that tells you something
Not that sucessful, certainly not internationally, or that much continentally. That fact is that was the way we should have been playing, or at least our own brand of it.
I don't think it is, i'm a believer of use the tactics that suits you not follow everyone else. Lets be honest, before 2008 Spain didn't really do much better than England in major tournaments and English football was more dominating (with the exception of the galaticos for a few years). Why should we have changed?
Xavi isen't as egotistical as the likes of Pele and El Diego and isen't going to say "im much better than Schoels" is he. Its all about personal opinions backed up by stats.
We had our own way which is all about the passion and physicality, never helped us at International level but Spain wearn't much better than us until 08. They went down one route and succeeded as we failed. We need to dust ourselfs off and try again, why copy other peoples ideas?
Xavi isen't as egotistical as the likes of Pele and El Diego and isen't going to say "im much better than Schoels" is he. Its all about personal opinions backed up by stats.
We had our own way which is all about the passion and physicality, never helped us at International level but Spain wearn't much better than us until 08. They went down one route and succeeded as we failed. We need to dust ourselfs off and try again, why copy other peoples ideas?
Spanish football was always more successful than English. Even Italians have better record than English.
Scholes was highly rated throughout his career, its only with the emergence of Barca few journos started wanking about him. He was always world class player and one of the best ever in the league.
With the exception of 2005-09, when was English football ever dominant? They were always behind Spain and Italy.
or he could say nothing at all? The fact he publically says that Scholes is superior speaks volume.Xavi isen't as egotistical as the likes of Pele and El Diego and isen't going to say "im much better than Schoels" is he. Its all about personal opinions backed up by stats.
We had our own way which is all about the passion and physicality, never helped us at International level but Spain wearn't much better than us until 08. They went down one route and succeeded as we failed. We need to dust ourselfs off and try again, why copy other peoples ideas?
Scholes was forced out of the England side because of a lack of appreciation for him, despite him being one of the best midfielders England has ever produced, and the best of his generation by far.
Neither of those are a playstyle, merely aides to a team. Especially passion.
Because our current ideas are very flawed. The fact is we have the ability to marry pace and power, with control and passing.
Spain were better than us before 08, underachievers like us, but still a better side.
or he could say nothing at all? The fact he publically says that Scholes is superior speaks volume.
We should copy others ideas because ours just doesn't work. The game is a lot less physical than it used to be and as for 'passion' every side has it, we can't base a tactic around it
It was mainly because at that moment in time the two stand out midfielders in Europe were Lampard and Gerrard who's club form merited a starting place for England.
I agree, but that was the way we played and we had a bit of success in terms of club teams.
I wouldn't even say they were better than us, mearly on the same level. Barcelona but a youth plan in place 15odd years ago which worked. We need to find a way which works for us .
Why can't we try something else, genuinly copying other peoples idea's never seems to work. You have to find your own identity and if that means hitting a few walls then so be it.
It was mainly because at that moment in time the two stand out midfielders in Europe were Lampard and Gerrard who's club form merited a starting place for England.
It was mainly because at that moment in time the two stand out midfielders in Europe were Lampard and Gerrard who's club form merited a starting place for England.
I agree, but that was the way we played and we had a bit of success in terms of club teams.
I wouldn't even say they were better than us, mearly on the same level. Barcelona but a youth plan in place 15odd years ago which worked. We need to find a way which works for us .
No, please dont compare Lampard and Gerrard to Scholes. They stood out in England because we as a nation prized goals and heart on the sleeve passion above anything else.
Where did i compare them?? I said it was one of the reasons he was over looked because at that time Gerrard and Lampard were at their best.
Xavi is a brilliant second function midfielder, dictating play from deep, and is for my money the best short passer and ball retainer in history by some distance.