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All these players ******** about being unhappy should get a grip. An average worker's salary here in Argentina is around 0.1% of Rooney's, working an 8-hour shift in some ****** job 6 days a week. And they still go to work every day, unhappy or not. So please, Rooney's and Tevez's of the world, if you're unhappy and wanna leave, do it, but do it quietly. I'm getting a bit too tired of all this "I wanna go I'm not happy please please don't force me to stay" bullshit.
 
Player is payed weekly-monthly. Not yearly. Lets say you sing 3 y contract. After 2 years you want out. Why wouldn't I let you go if you really want to leave? Yes, I can be ***** and reject every offer for you, because I can. But if you get fair offer, why not? I would say players need to understand that. If clubs doesn't get fair offer for you, then they shouldn't sell.

Right, and players coming out and whining publicly about how unhappy they are, how they're so tortured and down from living on 80k per week does absolute ******* wonders for the chances of their club receiving a good offer for them. See, I don't care if the player whines publicly and the club gets a good deal. That's fine, whatever. But that happens so rarely.

'Why wouldn't I let you go' is a simple one. Because the player in question is an asset to the club, who signed himself onto a contract. The club plans around him being there. Him getting out of that contract creates big current and long-term issues.

There's another example, RVP. He wanted to leave, Arsenal got good money for him. If player is acting like a *****, slacking in matches/training just because he wants to leave without club having fair offer for him, then you pull out discipline measures. Take a look at Tevez. He wanted to leave City for half a year ( maybe even more), and that affected them badly.

Did it really effect them badly? They kept hold of him until it washed over, and then he returned to play a big part of City's snatching of the title from United. A little later, they sell him on for good money, in a transfer window where there's plenty of time for them to get a replacement, no pressure to sell, and no reduction in the value of the player they're trying to sell due to him ******** about everything. I'd say that's a pretty ****** good decision.
 
All these players ******** about being unhappy should get a grip. An average worker's salary here in Argentina is around 0.1% of Rooney's, working an 8-hour shift in some ****** job 6 days a week. And they still go to work every day, unhappy or not. So please, Rooney's and Tevez's of the world, if you're unhappy and wanna leave, do it, but do it quietly. I'm getting a bit too tired of all this "I wanna go I'm not happy please please don't force me to stay" bullshit.

The world should care a whole lot less about what players feel. If we stopped mollycoddling them and tending to their every need, perhaps they wouldn't act like such spoiled children. They're in the privileged position of having the talent to do a high-profile, extremely highly-paid job, but that's exactly what it is, a job. They shouldn't be treated so radically different to a cleaner, a hospital worker, a physician, whatever in terms of their employment. Only difference is that they're paid through yearly contract - which makes sense, given the cyclical, seasonal nature of their employment - and whilst that may not be an advantage to them, it should be one they should stomach given their position of great wealth and prosperity.
 
All these players ******** about being unhappy should get a grip. An average worker's salary here in Argentina is around 0.1% of Rooney's, working an 8-hour shift in some ****** job 6 days a week. And they still go to work every day, unhappy or not. So please, Rooney's and Tevez's of the world, if you're unhappy and wanna leave, do it, but do it quietly. I'm getting a bit too tired of all this "I wanna go I'm not happy please please don't force me to stay" bullshit.

Difference is they cannot find another job. Rooney can. A privilege coming with being successful. I agree, if some player wants to leave, he shouldn't ***** about it, they should be professional and tell that to the club, not the media.
 
Right, and players coming out and whining publicly about how unhappy they are, how they're so tortured and down from living on 80k per week does absolute ******* wonders for the chances of their club receiving a good offer for them. See, I don't care if the player whines publicly and the club gets a good deal. That's fine, whatever. But that happens so rarely.

'Why wouldn't I let you go' is a simple one. Because the player in question is an asset to the club, who signed himself onto a contract. The club plans around him being there. Him getting out of that contract creates big current and long-term issues.



Did it really effect them badly? They kept hold of him until it washed over, and then he returned to play a big part of City's snatching of the title from United. A little later, they sell him on for good money, in a transfer window where there's plenty of time for them to get a replacement, no pressure to sell, and no reduction in the value of the player they're trying to sell due to him ******** about everything. I'd say that's a pretty ****** good decision.

It did, just because they won the league, doesn't mean his attitude didn't affect City in the process.
9m is really good price for striker as Tevez. Well done City.
 
The world should care a whole lot less about what players feel. If we stopped mollycoddling them and tending to their every need, perhaps they wouldn't act like such spoiled children. They're in the privileged position of having the talent to do a high-profile, extremely highly-paid job, but that's exactly what it is, a job. They shouldn't be treated so radically different to a cleaner, a hospital worker, a physician, whatever in terms of their employment. Only difference is that they're paid through yearly contract - which makes sense, given the cyclical, seasonal nature of their employment - and whilst that may not be an advantage to them, it should be one they should stomach given their position of great wealth and prosperity.

I do agree, they shouldn't be treated different then cleaner or peep shop worker. But when they get a job offer they might like better for whatever reason, why wouldn't they (try to) take it?

Anyway, this is getting utterly boring. We disagree, and I'm prefectly fine with that.
 
All these players ******** about being unhappy should get a grip. An average worker's salary here in Argentina is around 0.1% of Rooney's, working an 8-hour shift in some ****** job 6 days a week. And they still go to work every day, unhappy or not. So please, Rooney's and Tevez's of the world, if you're unhappy and wanna leave, do it, but do it quietly. I'm getting a bit too tired of all this "I wanna go I'm not happy please please don't force me to stay" bullshit.

Poor Ronaldo was also a slave at ManUtd, Blatter had to comment on it :(
 
It did, just because they won the league, doesn't mean his attitude didn't affect City in the process.
9m is really good price for striker as Tevez. Well done City.

Meh, you can what if about if they didn't win the league all you want. Fact is, they did, and Tevez played a big part in them overhauling United.

And £12 mil (the actual price) is pretty good for a 29 year old striker who is surplus to requirements and on a massive wage. City have made about 40 mil off the deal including the money saved from his wages and bonuses.

I do agree, they shouldn't be treated different then cleaner or peep shop worker. But when they get a job offer they might like better for whatever reason, why wouldn't they (try to) take it?

Because, as I've explained, their jobs are not contractually cyclical. A cleaner can change job at any time, not just in two designated sections of a year.

I said treated RADICALLY different. A life of a footballer is just different enough for us to acknowledge these kinds of differences and adjust our views accordingly.
 
okthanks was he any good dont know much about the young 1 at utd

He was our U18 player of the year last season.

We have a buy back clause, don't we? It's only a 2 year deal, be good for him to get first team experience and he'll be with Ole.
 
He was our U18 player of the year last season.

We have a buy back clause, don't we? It's only a 2 year deal, be good for him to get first team experience and he'll be with Ole.
Signed 2 yr contract. Dont think there was a release clause tho.
 
Meh, you can what if about if they didn't win the league all you want. Fact is, they did, and Tevez played a big part in them overhauling United.

And £12 mil (the actual price) is pretty good for a 29 year old striker who is surplus to requirements and on a massive wage. City have made about 40 mil off the deal including the money saved from his wages and bonuses.
Actually, it's 8m + 3m trough bonuses. Tevez played few months and was essential part of City squad. No doubt about it. Rest of the season, he was pain in the but for them.

Because, as I've explained, their jobs are not contractually cyclical. A cleaner can change job at any time, not just in two designated sections of a year.

I said treated RADICALLY different. A life of a footballer is just different enough for us to acknowledge these kinds of differences and adjust our views accordingly.
I stand by my point. If footballer wants to leave, and I can't do anything to stop him, when I get fair offer, I would sell him. If not, stay, be professional until it comes.


Anyway, Internet is flawed with Thiago to ManUnited news. Can't wait tomorrow and press conference.
 
Transfer News: No offers for Manchester United target Thiago Alcantara


Transfer News: No offers for Manchester United target Thiago Alcantara | Manchester United Fixtures, News, Transfers | Sky Sports Football

If this is true.. which wouldn't surprise me... doesn't this look all so familiar with United and signing midfielders. Thinking back to the ones we have already missed out on is enough for me to weep.

Official bid means nothing. It's not like football manager.
 
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