To be fair, Rodgers had more than one season to work with them before he started getting the best out of them
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To be fair, Rodgers had more than one season to work with them before he started getting the best out of them
Plus the refeering in the Tottenham game was atrocious and even here, it was perhaps a questionable penalty. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying Moyes has been totally absolved of any blame but he is really not getting any luck which he needs and some players have been absolutely atrocious as well which isn't his fault
On the other hand, I'm pretty sure everyone in Britain broke into helpless laughter when they saw Moyes saying refs are biased against United. I'm still wiping away tears as I type this.
Surprised by some of the stuff you have been writing recently, been way off the mark. Share prices actually went back up. they are already giving him money, the dilemma is whether its short term fixes or long term targets, bot have their pros and cons. Also re hernandez: he has been pretty woeful tbf.- from tonight's match.
Says it all really.
I think this is a total ******* mess to be honest. Rival fans are ******* themselves laughing, but it is rather sad to see the Utd share price tumble, records fall, and the insipid you lot play at the moment isn't much better. No balls through the team, nothing over the top, it's every time to the wing, cross into the box, hope for a flick on/lucky deflection and bash it in. Moyes has to be given time, that makes sense, but the worse he does the more likely it is the Glazers won't be spending any money in January and biding the time until the summer to see what sort of debacle they have to repair.
******* away 200m on a new side in Moyes' image will be a lot more costly in the long term than paying off Moyes (30m) and then recruiting somebody top quality with the gravitas you need. I can see Moyes being very good in the future, but it's curious to see the side play without the "Fergie factor" and find them so reliant on Rooney/RVP.
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good laf today lads! 
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to be fair man utds squad was in decline for a while before saf left..but yeh moyes doesnt suit man utds attackin game and its not worked out too well so far, but who could yis bring in right now as new manager? who would yis want realisitcaly?
heheto be fair man utds squad was in decline for a while before saf left..but yeh moyes doesnt suit man utds attackin game and its not worked out too well so far, but who could yis bring in right now as new manager? who would yis want realisitcaly?
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wait half a year and get Louis Van Gaal?
**** that cant stand the guy if its going to be any 1 pay the money and get klopp
We are struggling in the 25-28 range though.
Yeah, United's real problem isn't that you have no young players, it's that you haven't got any players to bridge the gap between veteran and youngster. In that kind of age range where players should be at their peak, United have Jonny Evans, Rooney, Hernandez, Nani and Fellaini, and that's it. Of those five only Evans and Rooney are playing very well, with Hernandez in poor form and Fellaini downright anonymous.
We can ***** about the squad quality for a month, Ferguson had these same guys and almost did PL point record with them.
So at the end its down to two possiblilites:
-Ferguson is a sorcerer, master of dark arts or in fact, Devil himself.
- Moyes is about as inspiring to the players as Santa's ********
So at the end its down to two possiblilites:
-Ferguson is a sorcerer, master of dark arts or in fact, Devil himself.
- Moyes is about as inspiring to the players as Santa's ********
My last hope for Fellaini is when he comes back from his wrist injury, I like to satisfy myself with the thought he wasn't playing well because he was playing through pain.
But surely he can't be that bad when he comes back, that alone is shocking.
Oh and there is players available... that's the annoying thing... if we pay the price. Matic, Rakitic, Coentrao, possibly Pjanic are the examples that spring to mind.
MOYES SPEND SOME MONEY IN THIS ****** WINDOW TO HELP OUR SEASON... he's so stubborn though, the whole thing in the last summer, Thiago... Strootman.... I want to cry. CHASING FABREGAS FOR A MONTH OR MORE.
Don't even talk about it.. Oh the horror if that happens... *shudders*.
But seriously, inspite of all that is said by Moyes, if he doesn't spend this transfer window, we're pretty much screwed. Maybe, before the FA Cup and Capital One Cup debacle, it (very remotely)*could* have worked out when Rooney and van Persie returned, possibly providing a spark. But after this last week, we definitely need a new good signing, if atleast, to provide a boost to what is likely an already dejected team.
Even more so, with rumors of Vidic planning a move elsewhere come summer. To lose our heroic figure of a manager and our captain in the matter of one season will be a bad blow indeed.
Aye honestly speaking I've probably been enjoying it a bit too much. I'd say the best option would be to get to the summer, pull in 1-2 short term players for danger areas (I'm thinking midfield or left back), and look to pick up some proper players in the summer who want to play for United. A lot of the players seem to be sensing this pressure on Moyes and just not performing though, and whether it is due to just the sheer power of Ferguson's personality in the dressing room (as a player, everyone knew you just -did not fail him-), or that they are hiding and looking for a way out of the situation, certainly to be a couple of points behind Liverpool despite this terrible recent form isn't bad at all.
It's more the manner of the way the side is playing which is causing problems, but with RVP and Rooney on their way back things certainly are looking better. It's a transition season, so to actually have a transition with some dropped points was expected and this is how it is. I'd personally prefer Moyes to be there a while than to have a never ending carousel of foreign managers, as I'd always prefer Utd doing well at the top instead of City or Chelsea. Just not too well
Coentrao and a CM, like Cabaye. Finish 4th, LC final, UCL Quarter final. Would be a good recovery and inline with pre season expectations tbh. Spend a shed load in the summer. That was pretty much the aim before things got ugly.Aye honestly speaking I've probably been enjoying it a bit too much. I'd say the best option would be to get to the summer, pull in 1-2 short term players for danger areas (I'm thinking midfield or left back), and look to pick up some proper players in the summer who want to play for United. A lot of the players seem to be sensing this pressure on Moyes and just not performing though, and whether it is due to just the sheer power of Ferguson's personality in the dressing room (as a player, everyone knew you just -did not fail him-), or that they are hiding and looking for a way out of the situation, certainly to be a couple of points behind Liverpool despite this terrible recent form isn't bad at all.
It's more the manner of the way the side is playing which is causing problems, but with RVP and Rooney on their way back things certainly are looking better. It's a transition season, so to actually have a transition with some dropped points was expected and this is how it is. I'd personally prefer Moyes to be there a while than to have a never ending carousel of foreign managers, as I'd always prefer Utd doing well at the top instead of City or Chelsea. Just not too well
To add there are certainly some players hiding, which is odd because they are playing for their futures. Moyes admitted giving players who were looking on their way out under Ferguson a chance, and they have not repayed his faith, which is poor from them. I hope he is ruthless with them come the summer.
1. We have 200m to spend on players?! Ill believe that when I believe pigs can fly. Its just PR I fear.
2. Even if we do have the dosh will class players want to join a team not in the CL as I fear we will be?
3. If class players join will MOYES be able to motivate them and organise them tactically. Ive seen almost nothing this season to fill me with any sort of hope on this.
4. Last nite flippin eck! I now start watching matches KNOWING we ll lose even against hopeless teams such as Sunderland! Nothing, not refereeing (as MOYES was moaning about post match) NOTHING can be an excuse for such things.
5. I dont like the stuff MOYES publicly states (starting from that brilliant "We have Rooney for when RVP gets injured). They re cliche ridden and mostly mean nothing but: Im not sure what Im doing ...
GOD HELP US.
2. Even if we do have the dosh will class players want to join a team not in the CL as I fear we will be?
3. If class players join will MOYES be able to motivate them and organise them tactically. Ive seen almost nothing this season to fill me with any sort of hope on this.
4. Last nite flippin eck! I now start watching matches KNOWING we ll lose even against hopeless teams such as Sunderland! Nothing, not refereeing (as MOYES was moaning about post match) NOTHING can be an excuse for such things.
5. I dont like the stuff MOYES publicly states (starting from that brilliant "We have Rooney for when RVP gets injured). They re cliche ridden and mostly mean nothing but: Im not sure what Im doing ...
GOD HELP US.