which is why you don't take the £35m, which is a lot for a french club.
What are the odds united go back next year and pay £80m? or Madrid. Pretty high
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which is why you don't take the £35m, which is a lot for a french club.
What are the odds united go back next year and pay £80m? or Madrid. Pretty high
France seems to have a lot of young talent at the moment, personally I rate Fekir very highly and surprised no English club made a move for him.
Dimitri Payet would of been a good signing for most English clubs as well (I know he's 28) but surprised he ended up at West Ham. Been one of the best players in the league so far.
Dimitri Payet would of been a good signing for most English clubs as well (I know he's 28) but surprised he ended up at West Ham. Been one of the best players in the league so far.
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Absolutely. I was having this discussion with a French friend early summer, and we both had him at the top of Madrid's want list to replace Benzema next year.
Even more so if he added a good Nations Cup to another solid season.
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Would you take Benzema , Mike?
Who wouldn't? :$
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Most French football fans but that's another story.
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Not quite World Class enough to fit in down there ..... ?
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Good point but I think they would of if they could.
Usually despise international breaks but will give me a reason to watch France and Mr.Martial. Hope he plays a part.
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I was being facetious, will have something interesting for the forum given my new found love of writing and running fantasy football games so that may ease the pain of the international break. Expect Monday at the latest
Easy to think big when you have practically an unlimited war chest and a chief executive only too happy to dip into it tbf
I reckon a lot of that is down to structural problems with the EPL itself. 4 competitions, lack of a winter break and minimal help from FA in rescheduling leage fixtures whenever you have a European game midweek
Of course, a lot is also down to tactics and our teams not being good enough but I reckon they will be helped massively if we ditch the league cup and start having a proper winter break for instance
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It's interesting how when news of a player's transfer fee spreads that there is an instantly negative consensus. "That's too much", "What are you doing?! He's gonna flop!", "These people are idiots! Sack 'em!".
Then, when the transfer is confirmed and the details are released, it reverts to "Oh that's not that bad", "He looks alright, he'll be worth it", "I've always rated him".
Then, when the transfer is confirmed and the details are released, it reverts to "Oh that's not that bad", "He looks alright, he'll be worth it", "I've always rated him".
zzezy, remember that pol about madrid fans and Navas?
See below:
Manchester United have said Real Madrid only had themselves to blame for failing to sign goalkeeper David De Gea, having concluded that the Spanish club may have deliberately sought to abort the deal which would also have brought Keylor Navas to Old Trafford.
A bitterly acrimonious dispute between the two clubs was provoked by the Spaniards issuing a statement suggesting United were to blame for the failure to register De Gea’s move in time with the Spanish La Liga. But a bemused and astonished United provided a detailed rebuttal, revealing that they have secured the support of the Football Association to demonstrate that they worked professionally on the last day of the Spanish transfer window, on Monday. The club, who believe manager Louis van Gaal will win over De Gea, said were “delighted that… fan-favourite double Player of the Year, David De Gea, remains a Manchester United player.”
Behind the public choreography of the dispute, there is a sense of astonishment at United about the way the deal started to unravel on Monday. Despite months of conjecture and rumour, Real did not make any contact with United about De Gea until the last morning of their transfer window. They did not table a formal bid for the player until around 12.45pm, having spent the morning repeatedly urging United – through agent Jorge Mendes – to name their price for the player.
Keylor Navas was part of the original dealUnited reiterated that they were not selling and it was only after the low initial bid – €15m plus Navas – had been rejected and a number of minimal add-ons offered that a serious sum of €25m plus Navas was tabled. Aware that they would lose De Gea on a free transfer next summer and conscious that Navas was enthusiastic about a move to Manchester, United agreed to enter into negotiations.
Manchester United: Summer 2015 completed transfers
Yet despite speaking at length to Navas, agreeing the terms of a transfer and having a private jet ready to bring him to their Carrington training base for a medical, there was - by the United version of events - a catalogue of problems which suggested that Madrid had second thoughts. They included:
- Madrid insisting that Navas should not fly to Manchester and did not need to be put through a medical, with chief executive Jose Angel Sanchez rejecting United’s demands for one until such a time that United had to agree to an exchange of medical information instead
- Navas’ agent Ricardo Cabanas disappearing out of telephone contact with United for three hours on Monday afternoon, until such a time that it was too late to fly the 28-year-old to Manchester for a medical
- Real sending De Gea’s transfer document to United minus the signatory page at 22.32pm, less than half an hour before the deadline
- De Gea’s transfer documentation being sent to United again – only this time with a significant technical change to the deal which made it far less attractive to United. This “mark-up”, which was certainly enough to be a deal-breaker, reached United with a mere 20 minutes to go before the transfer window closed
- Real only sending the documents needed to cancel de Gea’s contract to United at 22.55pm – five minutes before the deadline
[h=5]READ MORE: REAL MADRID'S STATEMENT
COMMENT: VAN GAAL DOESN'T GET LUXURY OF TIME GIVEN TO PREDECESSORS
REAL OPT NOT TO APPEAL[/h]By the United version of events, Madrid were entirely in control of the entire deal, by which De Gea’s £22m departure was dependent on Navas’ £7m arrival. Cabanas and Navas spent a substantial part of Monday afternoon at the Real training ground, putting them in a position where Sanchez could have pushed the agent into action. But United found Cabanas incredibly slow and unresponsive.
There was a sense of bafflement around Old Trafford as to why Real might not apparently want the deal to progress after all – an impression that increased when the Spanish club did not take up United’s offer of FA support today, and instead quickly conceded defeat.
It does not seem entirely inconceivable that a Marca poll published on Monday afternoon, which indicated that 90 per cent of fans may be against the Navas/De Gea deal, influenced Real president Florentino Perez. To have withdrawn directly from the deal at that stage could have alienated Madrid from De Gea and jeopardised attempts to buy him next summer.
The super-agent Jorge Mendes (left) alongside Radamel Falcao
United certainly did not find Navas reluctant to join them. The Costa Rican seemed to justify their belief in him when he contact them today disappointed to find that the move was in jeopardy and asking what could be done to resurrect it.
United are confident that De Gea will be won around to throw himself into United’s Premier League and Champions League campaign this season. The need to prove himself ready for the Spain side at Euro 2016 and what is described by United insiders as the player’s own immaculate conduct in recent weeks both lead the club to feel there will be no recriminations between the No 1 and Van Gaal.
See below:
Manchester United have said Real Madrid only had themselves to blame for failing to sign goalkeeper David De Gea, having concluded that the Spanish club may have deliberately sought to abort the deal which would also have brought Keylor Navas to Old Trafford.
A bitterly acrimonious dispute between the two clubs was provoked by the Spaniards issuing a statement suggesting United were to blame for the failure to register De Gea’s move in time with the Spanish La Liga. But a bemused and astonished United provided a detailed rebuttal, revealing that they have secured the support of the Football Association to demonstrate that they worked professionally on the last day of the Spanish transfer window, on Monday. The club, who believe manager Louis van Gaal will win over De Gea, said were “delighted that… fan-favourite double Player of the Year, David De Gea, remains a Manchester United player.”
Behind the public choreography of the dispute, there is a sense of astonishment at United about the way the deal started to unravel on Monday. Despite months of conjecture and rumour, Real did not make any contact with United about De Gea until the last morning of their transfer window. They did not table a formal bid for the player until around 12.45pm, having spent the morning repeatedly urging United – through agent Jorge Mendes – to name their price for the player.
Manchester United: Summer 2015 completed transfers
Yet despite speaking at length to Navas, agreeing the terms of a transfer and having a private jet ready to bring him to their Carrington training base for a medical, there was - by the United version of events - a catalogue of problems which suggested that Madrid had second thoughts. They included:
- Madrid insisting that Navas should not fly to Manchester and did not need to be put through a medical, with chief executive Jose Angel Sanchez rejecting United’s demands for one until such a time that United had to agree to an exchange of medical information instead
- Navas’ agent Ricardo Cabanas disappearing out of telephone contact with United for three hours on Monday afternoon, until such a time that it was too late to fly the 28-year-old to Manchester for a medical
- Real sending De Gea’s transfer document to United minus the signatory page at 22.32pm, less than half an hour before the deadline
- De Gea’s transfer documentation being sent to United again – only this time with a significant technical change to the deal which made it far less attractive to United. This “mark-up”, which was certainly enough to be a deal-breaker, reached United with a mere 20 minutes to go before the transfer window closed
- Real only sending the documents needed to cancel de Gea’s contract to United at 22.55pm – five minutes before the deadline
[h=5]READ MORE: REAL MADRID'S STATEMENT
COMMENT: VAN GAAL DOESN'T GET LUXURY OF TIME GIVEN TO PREDECESSORS
REAL OPT NOT TO APPEAL[/h]By the United version of events, Madrid were entirely in control of the entire deal, by which De Gea’s £22m departure was dependent on Navas’ £7m arrival. Cabanas and Navas spent a substantial part of Monday afternoon at the Real training ground, putting them in a position where Sanchez could have pushed the agent into action. But United found Cabanas incredibly slow and unresponsive.
There was a sense of bafflement around Old Trafford as to why Real might not apparently want the deal to progress after all – an impression that increased when the Spanish club did not take up United’s offer of FA support today, and instead quickly conceded defeat.
It does not seem entirely inconceivable that a Marca poll published on Monday afternoon, which indicated that 90 per cent of fans may be against the Navas/De Gea deal, influenced Real president Florentino Perez. To have withdrawn directly from the deal at that stage could have alienated Madrid from De Gea and jeopardised attempts to buy him next summer.
United certainly did not find Navas reluctant to join them. The Costa Rican seemed to justify their belief in him when he contact them today disappointed to find that the move was in jeopardy and asking what could be done to resurrect it.
United are confident that De Gea will be won around to throw himself into United’s Premier League and Champions League campaign this season. The need to prove himself ready for the Spain side at Euro 2016 and what is described by United insiders as the player’s own immaculate conduct in recent weeks both lead the club to feel there will be no recriminations between the No 1 and Van Gaal.
Yeah, Boxing Day games and Mickey Mouse Cup need to be retired.
I haven't seen much and looking on youtube doesn't really paint him up to be that special. But they are highlight videos after all.
I'm just going off what people told me about how good he was against Arsenal in the away leg when they won 3-1 I think.
I seen a dailymotion video from his performance in the UCL Qualifying round few weeks ago and he looked decent in that.
I honestly don't know whether I'm confident in this signing or not to be honest. It could go either way. Just hope the fee we've paid ultimately means he's something worth it in the end. But unfortunately for him, we need him to contribute and play a part straight away.
zzezy, remember that pol about madrid fans and Navas?
See below:
Manchester United have said Real Madrid only had themselves to blame for failing to sign goalkeeper David De Gea, having concluded that the Spanish club may have deliberately sought to abort the deal which would also have brought Keylor Navas to Old Trafford.
A bitterly acrimonious dispute between the two clubs was provoked by the Spaniards issuing a statement suggesting United were to blame for the failure to register De Gea’s move in time with the Spanish La Liga. But a bemused and astonished United provided a detailed rebuttal, revealing that they have secured the support of the Football Association to demonstrate that they worked professionally on the last day of the Spanish transfer window, on Monday. The club, who believe manager Louis van Gaal will win over De Gea, said were “delighted that… fan-favourite double Player of the Year, David De Gea, remains a Manchester United player.”
Behind the public choreography of the dispute, there is a sense of astonishment at United about the way the deal started to unravel on Monday. Despite months of conjecture and rumour, Real did not make any contact with United about De Gea until the last morning of their transfer window. They did not table a formal bid for the player until around 12.45pm, having spent the morning repeatedly urging United – through agent Jorge Mendes – to name their price for the player.
Keylor Navas was part of the original dealUnited reiterated that they were not selling and it was only after the low initial bid – €15m plus Navas – had been rejected and a number of minimal add-ons offered that a serious sum of €25m plus Navas was tabled. Aware that they would lose De Gea on a free transfer next summer and conscious that Navas was enthusiastic about a move to Manchester, United agreed to enter into negotiations.
Manchester United: Summer 2015 completed transfers
Yet despite speaking at length to Navas, agreeing the terms of a transfer and having a private jet ready to bring him to their Carrington training base for a medical, there was - by the United version of events - a catalogue of problems which suggested that Madrid had second thoughts. They included:
- Madrid insisting that Navas should not fly to Manchester and did not need to be put through a medical, with chief executive Jose Angel Sanchez rejecting United’s demands for one until such a time that United had to agree to an exchange of medical information instead
- Navas’ agent Ricardo Cabanas disappearing out of telephone contact with United for three hours on Monday afternoon, until such a time that it was too late to fly the 28-year-old to Manchester for a medical
- Real sending De Gea’s transfer document to United minus the signatory page at 22.32pm, less than half an hour before the deadline
- De Gea’s transfer documentation being sent to United again – only this time with a significant technical change to the deal which made it far less attractive to United. This “mark-up”, which was certainly enough to be a deal-breaker, reached United with a mere 20 minutes to go before the transfer window closed
- Real only sending the documents needed to cancel de Gea’s contract to United at 22.55pm – five minutes before the deadline
READ MORE: REAL MADRID'S STATEMENT
COMMENT: VAN GAAL DOESN'T GET LUXURY OF TIME GIVEN TO PREDECESSORS
REAL OPT NOT TO APPEAL
By the United version of events, Madrid were entirely in control of the entire deal, by which De Gea’s £22m departure was dependent on Navas’ £7m arrival. Cabanas and Navas spent a substantial part of Monday afternoon at the Real training ground, putting them in a position where Sanchez could have pushed the agent into action. But United found Cabanas incredibly slow and unresponsive.
There was a sense of bafflement around Old Trafford as to why Real might not apparently want the deal to progress after all – an impression that increased when the Spanish club did not take up United’s offer of FA support today, and instead quickly conceded defeat.
It does not seem entirely inconceivable that a Marca poll published on Monday afternoon, which indicated that 90 per cent of fans may be against the Navas/De Gea deal, influenced Real president Florentino Perez. To have withdrawn directly from the deal at that stage could have alienated Madrid from De Gea and jeopardised attempts to buy him next summer.
The super-agent Jorge Mendes (left) alongside Radamel Falcao
United certainly did not find Navas reluctant to join them. The Costa Rican seemed to justify their belief in him when he contact them today disappointed to find that the move was in jeopardy and asking what could be done to resurrect it.
United are confident that De Gea will be won around to throw himself into United’s Premier League and Champions League campaign this season. The need to prove himself ready for the Spain side at Euro 2016 and what is described by United insiders as the player’s own immaculate conduct in recent weeks both lead the club to feel there will be no recriminations between the No 1 and Van Gaal.
Reckon United can spin this into getting De Gea to stay? Looks an awful like they've deliberately sabotaged their own deal..
@De Gea saga
The whole thing looks increasingly as if Florentino had a bit of fun with cocaine in the morning, decided he'll buy himself a goalkeeper, only to realize he doesn't have any money when the drugs wore off.
The whole thing looks increasingly as if Florentino had a bit of fun with cocaine in the morning, decided he'll buy himself a goalkeeper, only to realize he doesn't have any money when the drugs wore off.
You can see why they went on the offensive. As the details come out, they look more and more stupid.