The Manchester United Thread

That's exactly the point, dude. He was the best striker to ever play the game at that point. That's what world record fee used to get you.

Now half a world record fee gets you 19 year old guy without hair on his balls.
To be fair he is already a dad so not exactly without hair down there...
 
And the ******* contest continues with Utd hitting back.

Over to Perez to keep this going.

Least it makes the boring International break interesting I 'spose.
 
It tells you how strong United feel over this the fact that they are responding to this publically, doesn't usually ever happen.
 
It tells you how strong United feel over this the fact that they are responding to this publically, doesn't usually ever happen.

Yeah, not knocking a response which Perez brought about/ forced himself.

Just you can see this *** for tat rolling for a whiles longer yet.
 
This discussion is getting real tiresome...

Was it an exorbirant fee for a teenager? Maybe yes because its largely based on potential and players that look world-beaters at 19 can be completely average at 25.

Does it matter? No because United have a fuckton of cash and they needed a striker in the Martial mould. Better to see quality on the pitch rather than piles of money remaining in the bank like Arsenal. If Martial fails, laugh a bit then buy someone else
This is surely madness? You would rather spend a stupid amount on just a proper, than wait for a world class striker to come available? That's as logical as saying that you should spend 36 million on every half decent prospect. Martial at this stage of development, isn't quality on the pitch. I'm happy with having money than paying for a 19 year old prospect that costed more than Hazard and Alexis. When Walcott and Chamberlain transferred, we took a battering for the transfer fee paid. This transfer fee is so overinflated and risky, that it's naivety in the extreme. You've essentially paid 3 multiple times market value. You don't laugh a bit when losing 36 million big ones!
 
Real Madrid will not ever admit blame on themselves for any single thing. They are definitely the ones in the wrong over this though.

And that Florentino Perez is as arrogant as they come.
 
This is surely madness? You would rather spend a stupid amount on just a proper, than wait for a world class striker to come available? That's as logical as saying that you should spend 36 million on every half decent prospect. Martial at this stage of development, isn't quality on the pitch. I'm happy with having money than paying for a 19 year old prospect that costed more than Hazard and Alexis. When Walcott and Chamberlain transferred, we took a battering for the transfer fee paid. This transfer fee is so overinflated and risky, that it's naivety in the extreme. You've essentially paid 3 multiple times market value. You don't laugh a bit when losing 36 million big ones!

Taking a risk is worth it if it pays off. Arsenal don't have anything to show for their supposed plan of wanting a world-class striker and if they did they would realise that you have to spend big money to get them.

If you're waiting on Arsene Wenger to find a world-class striker at a perfect price good luck with that, you're going to be waiting a long time.
 
Then again bidding £60m for Reus wouldn't make me feel much more comfortable, giving his injury record and everything I reckon that in itself would of been a huge gamble. (Few reports going around that we baulked at that fee).

After the huge fee paid for so called proven talent in Di Maria who was 'world-class' and how that turned out. We're probably better off going this way now. Back to our old ways I guess.
Di Maria's spell didn't end up well because his house was broken into and he couldn't deal with it. Before that, he was easily the stand out United player. That's like me saying that every transfer is risky because the player could due in a car crash. What are the odds of a break in in front of you, your wife and your kids?

Reus isn't a risky transfer at £60 million. If he plays half as good for another team as he did at Dortmund and Monchemgladbach, he'll easily repay the fee. I also can't see why that wouldn't happen.
 
Di Maria's spell didn't end up well because his house was broken into and he couldn't deal with it. Before that, he was easily the stand out United player. That's like me saying that every transfer is risky because the player could due in a car crash. What are the odds of a break in in front of you, your wife and your kids?

Reus isn't a risky transfer at £60 million. If he plays half as good for another team as he did at Dortmund and Monchemgladbach, he'll easily repay the fee. I also can't see why that wouldn't happen.

Di Maria ultimately bottled it, there is no guarantee any other player wouldn't with a reputation like his if he couldn't handle fighting for his place over Ashley Young.

A transfer worth £60million isn't risky over a player who is injury-prone? Alright then, why didn't Mr.Wenger with his plan to buy a world-class striker go for it then?
 
Taking a risk is worth it if it pays off. Arsenal don't have anything to show for their supposed plan of wanting a world-class striker and if they did they would realise that you have to spend big money to get them.

If you're waiting on Arsene Wenger to find a world-class striker at a perfect price good luck with that, you're going to be waiting a long time.

I don't think that £50 million is an unreasonable budget for a striker over 27 years old. What was being reported in that striking targets we're too old to spend over £50 million on because they don't represent reasonable value like Özil and Alexis who were 24 and 25 when they signed. I don't really see how that's unreasonable.
 
Di Maria ultimately bottled it, there is no guarantee any other player wouldn't with a reputation like his if he couldn't handle fighting for his place over Ashley Young.

A transfer worth £60million isn't risky over a player who is injury-prone? Alright then, why didn't Mr.Wenger with his plan to buy a world-class striker go for it then?

The failure to sign Cavani and Benzema wasn't due to risk. It was that Wenger was unwilling to spend more than £50 million pounds for a striker over 27 years old and the only way we'd get them cheaper if they'd pushed a move. There's no reason for them to push a move to Arsenal when they're already at top clubs.
 
The failure to sign Cavani and Benzema wasn't due to risk. It was that Wenger was unwilling to spend more than £50 million pounds for a striker over 27 years old and the only way we'd get them cheaper if they'd pushed a move. There's no reason for them to push a move to Arsenal when they're already at top clubs.

If that's the case then why even adopt the strategy if you know you won't get one? Aim slightly lower, Bacca/Martinez/Dybala.
 
If that's the case then why even adopt the strategy if you know you won't get one? Aim slightly lower, Bacca/Martinez/Dybala.

Because Giroud is a class lower. There's no point of buying them then finding out we need another striker later. Barcelona played a season or 2 without a recognised striker before Suarez came along. They could have signed Soldado.
 
Because Giroud is a class lower. There's no point of buying them then finding out we need another striker later. Barcelona played a season or 2 without a recognised striker before Suarez came along. They could have signed Soldado.

I thought Giroud was World Class?

What's above that? Super duper World Class? Shrugs.
 
Because Giroud is a class lower. There's no point of buying them then finding out we need another striker later. Barcelona played a season or 2 without a recognised striker before Suarez came along. They could have signed Soldado.

Barcelona have Messi though and Neymar, two of the best players in the world who can easily fill that position. Arsenal have Giroud, who is a good decent striker. Then you have Joel Campbell behind him. Doesn't really sound like you can be picky with depth like that.

Plus undoubtedly Martinez and Bacca would be an improvement to your squad anyway. If you don't want to pay the money for world-class players then why even bother going after them all the summer? It makes very little sense.
 
Barcelona have Messi though and Neymar, two of the best players in the world who can easily fill that position. Arsenal have Giroud, who is a good decent striker. Then you have Joel Campbell behind him. Doesn't really sound like you can be picky with depth like that.

Plus undoubtedly Martinez and Bacca would be an improvement to your squad anyway. If you don't want to pay the money for world-class players then why even bother going after them all the summer? It makes very little sense.

Jackson Martinez is a very similar player to Giroud and not an improvement. Bacca is a different type of striker, however he's just very good. He didn't end up at Milan by coincidence. It looks like we may try to loan Zaza in January.
 
People complaining about our squad and depth,

Thoughts?
United have very good depth, however the aim from now should be improving the first team in my opinion. If you put Mata into number 10, you have issues issues out wide.
 
Jackson Martinez is a very similar player to Giroud and not an improvement. Bacca is a different type of striker, however he's just very good. He didn't end up at Milan by coincidence. It looks like we may try to loan Zaza in January.

I said to your squad not to your first team, although both can be argued pros and cons over Giroud. But Joel Campbell as backup? If you get one injury I'll be intrigued how you deal with it because I can't see you relying on him.

I'm just guessing you'll play Walcott or Alexis there.
 
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