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[Theatreof Dreams]

Some of his transfers since been at Atletico since he has been there from 2013.


Toby Alderweireld - €7M
Played twelve times for Atletico in the league, loaned out to Southampton and then sold to Tottenham Hotspur for €16M (profit of €9M).

David Villa - €2.1M
Scored 13 goals in 36 appearances in the league thus helping Atletico to their first league title since 1996. Then left on a free to NYCFC.

Jose Sosa - €1.5M
Played 15 times in the league over six months and came on in CL final. Won the league in his time there.



Diego - €1.5M
Played 13 times in the league for Atletico in last half of the season and was unused substitute in CL final. Won the league in his time there.

Martin Demichelis - Free transfer
Sold to City two months later for €5M.

Antoine Griezmann - €30M
What's there to say? Has scored 44 times in 85 appearances so far for Atleti. If he does leave Atleti, is likely to go for double what they paid for him.

Mario Mandzukic - €22M
Scored 20 goals in 43 appearances. Sold to Juventus for €19M the following season (€3M loss).

Jan Oblak - €16M
Was only in March 2015 that he started playing for Atleti, and since then hasn't looked back. 29 clean sheets in 50 appearances for them so far, conceding just 32 goals.

Raul Jimenez - €10.5M
Played 21 times in the league for Atleti, scoring just once. Not great for a centre forward. Sold to Benfica for €9M the following season.

Guilherme Siqueira - €10M
Signed to be Luis' replacement.

Angel Correa - €7.5M
Only made his debut this season due to heart problems when he signed. Has played 11 times in the league scoring twice. Is only 20 years old.

Jackson Martinez - €35M
Scored just three times in 22 appearances for Atleti before being whisked off to China for €42M. Jorge Mendes strikes again.


Stefan Savic - €9M
Yep, the former City player. This transfer seems to have tanked with Savic making just five league appearances this season.

Yannick Ferreira Carrasco - €20M
Signed from other Mendes club Monaco. Has played often this season - 20 appearances so far in the league. But has just scored three times so far.

Luciano Vietto - €20M
Played 13 times in the league this season scoring once.


Filipe Luis - €16M
Luis was a key player for Atleti in the season they won the league. They sold him to Chelsea for €20M and managed to buy him back for just four million less. When fit and not getting himself sent off, he has generally played this season. 19 appearances in the league.

Matias Kranevitter - €8M
Signed him in August and loaned him back out to River Plate. Joined up with the squad in last month's transfer window, making two cup appearances.

Bernard Mensah - €6M
Signed him and immediately loaned him out to Getafe.

 

[Theatreof Dreams]

Sounds like Sanchez could be our first Summer signing.

Tom Kundert @PortuGoal1 Analysts in Portugal unanimous: Never before has an 18-year-old had such an impact. Benfica a different team since Sanches debuted November. Will be good player for Utd.

Tom Kundert @PortuGoal1
Today's @Record_Portugal say Benfica to receive record transfer fee from Manchester United for Renato Sanches, €60m.

Sport Witness @Sport_Witness
Man United make £45m out of window offer for Renato Sanches.

 

[Theatreof Dreams]

Jan Hagen @PortuBall For the 3rd time in a week Renato to Man United is front page material in Portugal.




Jan Hagen @PortuBall Record report that Benfica & Man United are "close" to an agreement for Renato Sanches after their €60m offer(€20m in bonuses).



Jan Hagen @PortuBall Ojogo report Renato is close to join Man United.

Jan Hagen @PortuBall
Benfica want more right away than the €40m(+20m bonuses) Man United have offered. The English club desperate to get a quick solution. [Rcrd/Ojo ]

 

[sunilvk7]

Because it is. Also I didn't really moan about Mane, I said he'd be a decent buy but nothing more, and getting him in January would of been bad because we would of been absolutely rinsed for him. He isn't worth paying big big money which Southampton would want.

But I have slight optimism...

Yousha Bassa ‏@Bassa_UTD 4h4 hours ago
According @DiMarzio #mufc want Andrea Berta (Atletico sporting director). He is tempted. Berta needs to answer in coming weeks..

Seems the club might be waking up to the modern game and how the club needs to be run from a footballing perspective.

Yeah when City sign Neymar you can moan about it.

 

[Mike.]

Because it is. Also I didn't really moan about Mane, I said he'd be a decent buy but nothing more, and getting him in January would of been bad because we would of been absolutely rinsed for him. He isn't worth paying big big money which Southampton would want.

But I have slight optimism...

Yousha Bassa ‏@Bassa_UTD 4h4 hours ago
According @DiMarzio #mufc want Andrea Berta (Atletico sporting director). He is tempted. Berta needs to answer in coming weeks..

Seems the club might be waking up to the modern game and how the club needs to be run from a footballing perspective.

You know my views on what happens when you get a good DoF and scouting right. This is a game changer if it happens. By far our weakest area for about 6 years now.

 

[sunilvk7]

Exactly, one of the best moves as a club we can make, puts us in a much better place with how we'll be run and leaves Woody to go get his next noodle sponsor without worrying about transfers at the same time whilst also thinking where he'll take LVG to dine to give him the sack lol.

You do know that Woody is not responsible for signing sponsorship deals from last 3 years right? That was Woody before he was promoted to CEO. Some guy replaced him 3 years back and it's hilarious you still think it's woody who is negotiating noodle deals.

 

[MANUMAD]

This galactico style he idolises won't work at United, it hardly works at Madrid given their lack of success through doing it, it's a silly approach to want the club to have unless you only care about commercial/marketing more than the football, which is why he idolises this vision.

I really dont understand this attitude. And especially from you. I seem to recall you screaming that we need to bring in big players, already developed players that we need to be bidding for the best and when we actually make the fucken bids you whinge again.

You know that I have agreed with most things you ve said (much more than anybody on this forum actually) but this is plain silly.

Imho its the unavoidable truth that "galacticos" as you call them such as NEYMAR are the world's very top players. To say that we dont need them or they "wont work" is dumbfounding. AGUERO is a "galactico" and works fine for ******. BENZEMA is a galactico works fine for REAL. LEVANDOWSKI is a galactico works fine for BAYERN. GRIEZMANN is a galactico (in the making) works well ... oh well I hope you get the drift.

And dont mention ADM - he was badly handled by LVG and had that awful experience with the break in. And in the summer you (together with me) were hyperventilating that we need(ed) to bring a similar standard player!

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

You know my views on what happens when you get a good DoF and scouting right. This is a game changer if it happens. By far our weakest area for about 6 years now.

Absolutely. Getting the structure right with proper football people is key.

Keep reading about United shutting down the whole top tier for Miditylland despite dropping prices right down for the tie due to a lack of interest.

Is there really such apathy still to the Europa? This continues to sadden me. ****, you win it you do what we no longer can post Cup Winners and join a very select few to of won all three European majors. That alone you'd think would enthuse the support aside from it still being a fantastic competition.

 

[Mike.]

Absolutely. Getting the structure right with proper football people is key.

Keep reading about United shutting down the whole top tier for Miditylland despite dropping prices right down for the tie due to a lack of interest.

Is there really such apathy still to the Europa? This continues to sadden me. ****, you win it you do what we no longer can post Cup Winners and join a very select few to of won all three European majors. That alone you'd think would enthuse the support aside from it still being a fantastic competition.

Tickets are still relatively expensive, and its still about 59,000.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Tickets are still relatively expensive, and its still about 59,000.

Ok ta. Couldn't knock that attendance at all for a midweek game. I knew I'd read they'd reduced them but then it's all relative as to what they've reduced them to.

 

[Mike.]

Ok ta. Couldn't knock that attendance at all for a midweek game. I knew I'd read they'd reduced them but then it's all relative as to what they've reduced them to.

They are down 25%. But you have to figure in it's probably more an indictment of the dull football (though thats changed recently), as well as it being a relatively expensive midweek fixture against a small side. Would be higher against say, Sevilla

 

[sunilvk7]

You know my views on what happens when you get a good DoF and scouting right. This is a game changer if it happens. By far our weakest area for about 6 years now.

Or if it goes wrong it's goes badly so easily and gets worse every week.

I'm excited about DoF but hopefully we won't end up like a mess Liverpool have created with all that bs committee.

 

[iNickStuff]

Sounds like Sanchez could be our first Summer signing.

Tom Kundert@PortuGoal1 Analysts in Portugal unanimous: Never before has an 18-year-old had such an impact. Benfica a different team since Sanches debuted November. Will be good player for Utd.

Tom Kundert@PortuGoal1
Today's @Record_Portugal say Benfica to receive record transfer fee from Manchester United for Renato Sanches, €60m.

Sport Witness@Sport_Witness
Man United make £45m out of window offer for Renato Sanches.

Were we not saying the same about William Carvalho eight months ago?

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

They are down 25%. But you have to figure in it's probably more an indictment of the dull football (though thats changed recently), as well as it being a relatively expensive midweek fixture against a small side. Would be higher against say, Sevilla

Like I say, although it's a drop on capacity that people will doubtless jump on, 59,000 would still be a terrific turnout midweek regardless. Throw in all you've mentioned and it looks even better.

Although I naturally don't want you to progress, smiles, like yourself I really hope Van Gaal gives it and the club the respect it deserves and really goes all out for the Europa. It'd be to United's detriment for him not to but we sadly know that's not always the case these days in that competition.

 

[Mike.]

Like I say, although it's a drop on capacity that people will doubtless jump on, 59,000 would still be a terrific turnout midweek regardless. Throw in all you've mentioned and it looks even better.

Although I naturally don't want you to progress, smiles, like yourself I really hope Van Gaal gives it and the club the respect it deserves and really goes all out for the Europa. It'd be to United's detriment for him not to but we sadly know that's not always the case these days in that competition.

If we send a weakened team and we get knocked out, I want him fired there and then

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

..... Were we not saying the same about William Carvalho eight months ago?

Did he even end up leaving Sporting in the end after all the hype?

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

If we send a weakened team and we get knocked out, I want him fired there and then

Man after my own heart in that regard.

Seriously interested to see what Klopp does if Augsburg is in the balance after the first leg with the second three days before the League Cup final.

 

[Mike.]

Man after my own heart in that regard.

Seriously interested to see what Klopp does if Augsburg is in the balance after the first leg with the second three days before the League Cup final.

Slightly different for you as it's a cup final, so a bit trickier. But there is no real excuse for us, unless we've blown then away in the first leg. Augsburg are a good side as well.

 

[iNickStuff]

Did he even end up leaving Sporting in the end after all the hype?

Probably. I didn't follow it, just feels like deja vu.

 

[zzeezzy]

Yeah when City sign Neymar you can moan about it.

How will that even happen? Only one reason astronomical amounts of money, he wants to stay at Barcelona and has ooenly said so. I don't want a player who would just come for money and nothing else. Building a team around money is basically what Madrid do and similar to City in a way (we've adopted a similar approach especially in recent seasons with splashing the cash and it hasn't got us any further, same with Liverpool).

We need to spend wisely, YES I did moan that we didn't really replace Di Maria but that is different to me saying we need to go out right now and get Messi or Ronaldo. It's about getting the right players, not necessarily always the big money players. We need to build a team like Atletico do which has a strong team-ethic. That is the way for success for us in the long-term IMO.

My fault with Woodward is that whenever I hear him speak about transfers and everything I hear about him from the outside is that he idolises Madrid's galactico approach but why would you in a football sense? They've had little success with all the money they spend it is a very flawed way and not the right way for United.

That's why I said that this 'galactico vision' won't work as well because there is difference between us and Madrid. They sign one virtually every summer, whereas we on the other hand, don't pull them off anyway so it's mainly just a lot of speculation or rejection in the case of Muller/Neymar. This is not the strategy that even gains that much success in terms of football as proven by Madrid and not only that, we wouldn't even be able to pull it off like they do anyway.