The Manchester United Thread

sunilvk7 said:
Yeah Leicester for example has a team where their CB was their main CB in championship (Wes Morgan), Huth who was not needed at Stoke any more, De Laet ManUtd reject, Simpson ManUtd reject, Schullp ManUtd reject, Drinkwater as their midfielder who was again ManUtd reject.

What matters more is how manager organize his team. Also Southampton is another good example.
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Yeah Southampton are I mean I think a coupke of their core players where with them in League one, Fonte springs to mind, the japanese fella forget his name you could also add Lallana, Lambert and Schneiderlin before he left to those too. I also think their system and how they get the maximum out of players helps with bringing through the youngsters at the rate they do.
 
Legend Incredimaria said:
Do any of you remember that team Fergie took the the UCL finals back in 2011?

If LVG had that team, i don't think we'll finish top half.
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Precisely my point. People argue counter, and then laud Klopp, can't have it both ways, when he is all about the system. Though in fairness his Dortmund team personally was very strong in its last two years.
 
sunilvk7 said:
Signing Valdes is as much bigger risk IMO. He is 34 years old and played in La Liga where he wasn't challenged physically. He is not taller for GK too. IMO he would be a big problem in the league.

I agree Timo Horn is a risk but risk worth taking as he is young and has a physique to dominate the box. I know it's a pipe dream but Johnstone deserves a shot IMO. Very talented GK.
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My thoughts exactly. I would rather give Johnstone a go than take a gamble on another young goalie.

My thinking behind Valdes is:

a) Saves on transfer fee to invest in other areas
b) Experienced head to come in behind a back 4 that will almost certainly need a bit of guidance and authority.

When we signed De Gea, we had a good solid back 4 with plenty of experience and a lot of key figures throughout the team. A young new GK coming in now, behind our defence currently, and will almost certainly be added to in the summer, could be a **** storm waiting to happen.

I'd rather stick with the experience of Valdes for the time being, until the team is sorted and settled again and under some kind of rhythm with the new manager, than throw in a kid and add another potential problem.
 
steveorobbo said:
My thoughts exactly. I would rather give Johnstone a go than take a gamble on another young goalie.

My thinking behind Valdes is:

a) Saves on transfer fee to invest in other areas
b) Experienced head to come in behind a back 4 that will almost certainly need a bit of guidance and authority.

When we signed De Gea, we had a good solid back 4 with plenty of experience and a lot of key figures throughout the team. A young new GK coming in now, behind our defence currently, and will almost certainly be added to in the summer, could be a **** storm waiting to happen.

I'd rather stick with the experience of Valdes for the time being, until the team is sorted and settled again and under some kind of rhythm with the new manager, than throw in a kid and add another potential problem.
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I sort of agree with your reasoning that we need experience in the backline but the reason I don't want Valdes is I don't rate him highly. He is very poor at crosses and doesn't command his area at all.

Smalling is 26 years old, it's time for his to step up and lead the line. Also someone with good English is very much needed as most of our defenders speak English.

Thinking about other options, Jack Butland would be very good signing.
 
sunilvk7 said:
I sort of agree with your reasoning that we need experience in the backline but the reason I don't want Valdes is I don't rate him highly. He is very poor at crosses and doesn't command his area at all.

Smalling is 26 years old, it's time for his to step up and lead the line. Also someone with good English is very much needed as most of our defenders speak English.

Thinking about other options, Jack Butland would be very good signing.
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I agree, Butland would be a great signing. Just two small problems. He's young and he's English. Given he's probably the next best keeper to Hart (maybe Forster, and I mean English GK's), we're probably looking at around £30m to sign him. That would make me more inclined to go with Johnstone for a while and see how he goes.
 
steveorobbo said:
I agree, Butland would be a great signing. Just two small problems. He's young and he's English. Given he's probably the next best keeper to Hart (maybe Forster, and I mean English GK's), we're probably looking at around £30m to sign him. That would make me more inclined to go with Johnstone for a while and see how he goes.
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30m is pushing very high imo. That means breaking all kind of records for a GK. He is young an loved his season for stoke. In few games he looked absolutely unbeatable.

Yeah Johnstone did very well in the preseason, I wanted him to start the season ahead of Romero.
 
woolly said:
Valdes is already at United. Mind you Horn could just turn out to be another Schmichel if Utd were to buy him. Which can't hurt.
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Valdes will be out of contract in the summer. He won't be at United. He signed 18 month deal with option to extend. I don't think any parties will be keen to extend.
 
sunilvk7 said:
30m is pushing very high imo. That means breaking all kind of records for a GK. He is young an loved his season for stoke. In few games he looked absolutely unbeatable.

Yeah Johnstone did very well in the preseason, I wanted him to start the season ahead of Romero.
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Yeh £30m was a bit tongue in cheek, but considering the premium on young English players, it wouldnt surprise me if it was close to that figure.

Same thoughts with Johnstone aswell. Every time the ball gets passed back to Romero im expecting a goal. He can't kick a ball for **** and almost trips over it every time he has it at his feet. Not a bad shot stopper, but for a GK thats played in a WC Final, his ability on the ball is beyond poor. The only good thing that will come out of signing Romero is that we'll probably get a few quid for him. Saying that, we've probably paid him more in wages than what we'll get for him.
 
woolly said:
However, if LVG was gone and a manager who was more accommodating he could sign a new contract, that said I don't think he will stay.
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Thats exactly what I'm thinking. Valdes's problem is with LVG, not the club. Actually I dont even know if Valdes does have a problem with LVG, but clearly LVG has a problem with him.

Going off Valdes's interviews and various social media posts, he's quite happy to be at United. I'll admit social media isnt the best indicator of his happyness. Its more than likely a PR team controlling it or the club themselves. But I feel if LVG were to go, and the new manager make it clear to Valdes that he will be playing, I think he'd sign a new deal and stay.
 
woolly said:
Valdes is already at United. Mind you Horn could just turn out to be another Schmichel if Utd were to buy him. Which can't hurt.
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Been championing Horn on and off since the latter end of last year when we've been talking about replacements for Mingolet the other thread.

Every time I've caught Cologne he's been fantastic. A real big presence that looks perfect for the ariel perquisite of our league.
 
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Gerald McCreery ‎@GeraldMccreery @DiMarzio hi, Jose Mourinho has said in interview he will be starting his new job in July but what team is that?

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Mike. said:
Di Marzio has said he is 100% signed up to man United. Guess we will find out soon enough.

If he is accurate (and he usually is) a) it means that Berta is likely to join and that b) Jose will already know two of his transfer targets
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Erm, who is Berta?
 
Mehn...united could do with an on form rooney right about now.

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I'd be up for an Everton v Man Utd semi final. Would be a very tasty affair
 
Legend Incredimaria said:
Mehn...united could do with an on form rooney right about now.

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Yeh.. but he never is and when he comes into some kind of 'form' he gets injured. Rooney needs to go. No help to us anymore even relying on him.
 
West Ham today..... not confident at all after the ***** we watched in the last game and if we play anything like that today we'll lose. West Ham have a great record against the big teams and I think they'll be tougher opponents than Liverpool if they take this seriously. Basically because West Ham have been a better side than Liverpool this season so it's bound to be as tough if not tougher, only advantage is we are at home but in recent times that seems to be more of a burden.

They got a great manager in Bilic.
 
Our season is literally clinging on to these next 3 games: -

West Ham (FA Cup)

Liverpool (Europa League)

Man City (Premier League)


Have to win every game or else our season is over for official. Can't drop any more points in the PL against City.
 
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