The Manchester United Thread

Bujakaa said:
Lets not get carried away. I think there will be lot of rumors where he will end up. PL money will push the rumor mill crazy...

Would love to have him in PL. As i planning to visit England next season to come and watch some games, seeing him would be the most important.
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Free transfer, he can totally control his own destiny and brings you goals, anyone needing any kind of firepower will be paying attention
 
Yeah, next window is gonna be batshit crazy.

New TV deal plus Guardiola, Klopp, Mourinho, possibly Wenger's replacement, and Benitez if he stays up, all making their first shopping? Get out of here. It's gonna be bloodbath.
 
epic terrorist said:
Exactly, like its any different settling from Serie A to La Liga, transfers don't work out all the time PL is no different. Sometimes systems make players look better than they are, sometimes you buy a player and the system he was working in got the absolute maximum out of him and the new system negates his strengths or sometimes he just gets homesick but all these factors apply to all leagues. Sure the PL has some unique characteristics but I certainly do not buy the old chestnut that it is that much more physical than say the Bundesliga/Ligue 1 etc. If anything many teams have forgot how to defend. On Zlatan with his physicality and also his ability to playmake like a 10 he would rip defences open and you would probably see a higher output out of Mata/Depay/Martial. Thinking about it, it is a transfer that makes sense on so many levels really.
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The intensity of the English game is still the major difference. An extra cup competition. Cup replays. No winter break to refresh. Very few easy games through the course of our season like you get with some of the steamroller scores in other leagues. Then there's the extra press demands and 24/ 7 spotlight extreme focus.

The quality most assuredly isn't there. But the intensity from every aspect still makes the English league physically and mentally like no other.
 
zzeezzy said:
I just can't see that being the case. De Gea if he has that release clause in his contract someone is going to trigger it. I mean he is the best goalkeeper in the world and for £30m is a bargain.

If the release clause is actually there.
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Normally I would ignore it, but it makes no sense for Marca to put that out there.

Sounds like either a) the clause doesnt exist or b) de Gea really isnt interested.

Or it could be a massive counter bluff.

Navas has been brilliant, and is massively popular. The initial failed move really ****** off the Madrid fans.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
The intensity of the English game is still the major difference. An extra cup competition. Cup replays. No winter break to refresh. Very few easy games through the course of our season like you get with some of the steamroller scores in other leagues. Then there's the extra press demands and 24/ 7 spotlight extreme focus.

The quality most assuredly isn't there. But the intensity from every aspect still makes the English league physically and mentally like no other.
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Bundesliga is already a more intense league than ours, French very close too. Winter break is the difference, but PL typically has bigger squads.
 
Mike. said:
Bundesliga is already a more intense league than ours, French very close too. Winter break is the difference, but PL typically has bigger squads.
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Some funny German fella' I kind of like would disagree on the intensity between the Bundesliga and Premiership. In the main down to the extra games here, competitive nature and no mid-season break.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Some funny German fella' I kind of like would disagree on the intensity between the Bundesliga and Premiership. In the main down to the extra games here, competitive nature and no mid-season break.
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He's also known for playing the crowd well. Game for game, Bundesliga matches and beats us for intensity. Over the season we need to rotate more, but we have typically bigger squads.
 
Mike has a point, you guys are trying to debate two different things. PL has more intensive season, but BL has more intensive games.
 
Tyton said:
Mike has a point, you guys are trying to debate two different things. PL has more intensive season, but BL has more intensive games.
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Exactly. Players wont have a problem game by game coming in, but they might not be able to play 55 games at full tilt.
 
Mike. said:
He's also known for playing the crowd well.....
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You can disagree with him but that's a lame way to flippantly dismiss the counter view.

So much for his rep for being honest on what he feels. Shrugs.

Unlike him I've never been involved in either league so I wouldn't know. But I do know the demands are increased with the extra games and no break here which is a big difference however many players you have to pick from.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
You can disagree with him but that's a lame way to flippantly dismiss the counter view.

So much for his rep for being honest on what he feels. Shrugs.

Unlike him I've never been involved in either league so I wouldn't know. But I do know the demands are increased with the extra games and no break here which is a big difference however many players you have to pick from.
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Klopp is very good at playing the crowd. You think he gets the best from his players just by being honest? Give Klopp a bit more credit for his intelligence. The stats actually show that game by game we are no longer the most intense league.
 
Tyton said:
Mike has a point, you guys are trying to debate two different things. PL has more intensive season, but BL has more intensive games.
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Just don't see that holding true. Irrespective of other leagues, more or less every team goes full pelt for 90 minutes all season long here. The quality isn't that high, particularly defensively. which invariably leads to great excitement. But there's very rarely easy matches for anyone over the course of a season.
 
Mike. said:
Klopp is very good at playing the crowd. You think he gets the best from his players just by being honest? Give Klopp a bit more credit for his intelligence. The stats actually show that game by game we are no longer the most intense league.
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I was just about to get into this but you have already beaten me to it, people should give soccernomics a read it dispels a few of these myths more so than me posting here would. Its backed up by some of the biggest statistical analysis projects too.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Just don't see that holding true. Irrespective of other leagues, more or less every team goes full pelt for 90 minutes all season long here. The quality isn't that high, particularly defensively. which invariably leads to great excitement. But there's very rarely easy matches for anyone over the course of a season.
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honestly scouse you should give soccernomics a read, tbf mike might be able to recommend a more recent book but its great at dispelling this myth created by sky.
 
epic terrorist said:
honestly scouse you should give soccernomics a read, tbf mike might be able to recommend a more recent book but its great at dispelling this myth created by sky.
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Neither of us come from the Sky generation mate. They're the very last people I'd listen to on anything.
 
epic terrorist said:
I was just about to get into this but you have already beaten me to it, people should give soccernomics a read it dispels a few of these myths more so than me posting here would. Its backed up by some of the biggest statistical analysis projects too.
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Indeed. As Public Enemy said " Don't believe the hype"
 
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