The Manchester United Thread

[Mike.]

Absolutely. Mourinho's stature is another leveller again regardless of where Utd finish this year.

Just be nice when that's official (or not) to have something substantial to go on.

Indeed, though I think it's telling that United are yet to deny this, this time round

 

[Tyton]

Indeed, though I think it's telling that United are yet to deny this, this time round

Seems to be their standard policy to not comment on rumours tbh. Which makes sense, once they comment on one story, they're gonna have to comment on everything, and United rumour mill never slows down.

 

[sunilvk7]

The theory of this is that Klopp will improve their pull, makes sense.

But then we are talking about Jose Mourinho, and Mendes backing him, and that's makes us incredibly dangerous in the market

I agree with Gotze but it was before Klopp became their manager too when it was Reus and how much pull Liverpool have in Europe. At the same time ManUtd can't attract players as they are fallen giants.

 

[Tyton]

I agree with Gotze but it was before Klopp became their manager too when it was Reus and how much pull Liverpool have in Europe. At the same time ManUtd can't attract players as they are fallen giants.

Give it a rest already. You're like toxic ex-girlfriend who won't let go.

 

[sunilvk7]

Give it a rest already. You're like toxic ex-girlfriend who won't let go.

Let go what?

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

United going out to China for a couple of games huh this summer?

The dictating factor at boardroom level of who'll pay the most appearance fee money and have the ability to get the most folk into a ground that overrides everything and completely disrupts big clubs pre-season's today. Sighs. Not naive enough to not accept the major business that is today's game but I hate it all the same.

 

[sunilvk7]

Many reports that Chong is signing for United. He is 16 year old, his hair makes Fellaini's look very decent.

 

[Mike.]

Seems to be their standard policy to not comment on rumours tbh. Which makes sense, once they comment on one story, they're gonna have to comment on everything, and United rumour mill never slows down.

They denied it last time, and denied that he was getting sacked/offered to resign.

 

[Mike.]

I agree with Gotze but it was before Klopp became their manager too when it was Reus and how much pull Liverpool have in Europe. At the same time ManUtd can't attract players as they are fallen giants.

Some people had overcooked that because of their link. But Liverpool will have a better pull on players with money plus Klopp.

If United get Jose, then they will have an even bigger pull, with even more money. Either way, this summer could be an absolute cluster**** with the Euros too.

 

[sunilvk7]

Some people had overcooked that because of their link. But Liverpool will have a better pull on players with money plus Klopp.

If United get Jose, then they will have an even bigger pull, with even more money. Either way, this summer could be an absolute cluster**** with the Euros too.

This summer will be amazing from transfer point of view. Shame Euros will be a big blocking point as many players will wait till Euros is over to complete their move.

If we sign Jose then Jose at ManUtd with loads of money and squad to improve.
Pep at City with loads of money and need replacements.
Conte at Chelsea, again with loads of money
Wenger at Arsenal and after all the abuse he received he might sign few good players.
Klopp at Liverpool. Money plus squad to improve.
Poch at Spurs and they might finish second this season.
West Ham with new TV deal money and also will have spring in their steps moving to their new stadium.
Leicester might be champions and will have loads of money to sign few class players.

This summer should be amazing from transfers point of view.

Again, I agree that Liverpool will have better pull with Klopp in charge and money to burn. (my initial point was about the posts when Rodgers was their manager and how contradicting the views were when it came to transfer targets).

Anyways, back to the point. This summer European clubs will have a field day. English clubs are loaded and they will buy from other leagues. Even a decent talent will cost more than 30 Million now.

 

[sunilvk7]

They denied it last time, and denied that he was getting sacked/offered to resign.

They even denied when there was a story about Rooney's transfer request, I think Telegraph or Independent published it and ManUtd immediately dismissed it.

Also it happened with ManUtd were linked with Pep.

 

[Mike.]

They even denied when there was a story about Rooney's transfer request, I think Telegraph or Independent published it and ManUtd immediately dismissed it.

Also it happened with ManUtd were linked with Pep.

LVG is well liked by Woodward, and United are wary how badly they dealt with Moyes (we embarrassed him, reallypoor form from us), and they will want to do right by him when removing him. It will be something mutual end of season, allow him to retire nicely. Sacking is definitely a last resort.

 

[steveorobbo]

LVG is well liked by Woodward, and United are wary how badly they dealt with Moyes (we embarrassed him, reallypoor form from us), and they will want to do right by him when removing him. It will be something mutual end of season, allow him to retire nicely. Sacking is definitely a last resort.

I dont think anything is ever really mutual. Thats just a polite way of sacking and to save face for the media. As soon as a club gets a manager in and says we'd prefer it if you left/resigned, thats as good as a sacking.

 

[Mike.]

I dont think anything is ever really mutual. Thats just a polite way of sacking and to save face for the media. As soon as a club gets a manager in and says we'd prefer it if you left/resigned, thats as good as a sacking.

I agree, but they will do their best not to pull the rug from under him.

 

[sunilvk7]

I agree, but they will do their best not to pull the rug from under him.

They will try to part ways respectfully, Van Gaal will take early retirement and then new manager will be announced. Or Van Gaal will say only after he said he will retire early Woodward started to search for manager.

They will try their best for better PR.

Also like we all know, Woodward and Van Gaal get along very well. So they will try to save face as much as possible.

 

[Mike.]

United going out to China for a couple of games huh this summer?

The dictating factor at boardroom level of who'll pay the most appearance fee money and have the ability to get the most folk into a ground that overrides everything and completely disrupts big clubs pre-season's today. Sighs. Not naive enough to not accept the major business that is today's game but I hate it all the same.

You're doing the same thing in the US and then Europe. Not that big a deal tbh after the Euros.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

You're doing the same thing in the US and then Europe. Not that big a deal tbh after the Euros.

That's was why I was consciously put 'big clubs' there. We've been on about this quite a bit recently the L'pool thread.

I personally hate the long haul trips. I get them from a financial POV. But hate them all the same. You lose quite a few days training ground work with travel and time differences and all that. Klopps been lobbying hard to pull out of the ICC apparently but the financial commitment was too much. (Although if we're in the Europa qualifier he may still get his way.).

Be very interesting going forward if we go back to European pre-seasons with odd one off money spinning long haul friendlies if he fully gets his way. The domestic friendlies still to be confirmed before this tourney is a step in that direction we've not had for a long time.

 

[ninjaskill]

That was why I was consciously put 'big clubs' there. We've been on about this quite a bit recently the L'pool thread.

I personally hate the long haul trips. I get them from a financial POV. But hate them all the same. You lose quite a few days training ground work with travel and time differences and all that. Klopps been lobbying hard to pull out of the ICC apparently but the financial commitment was too much. (Although if we're in the Europa qualifier he may still get his way.).

Be very interesting going forward if we go back to European pre-seasons with odd one off money spinning long haul friendlies if he fully gets his way. The domestic friendlies still to be confirmed before this tourney is a step in that direction we've not had for a long time.

out of interest any idea if he travelled in pre season with Dortmund or stayed local

 

[sunilvk7]

You're doing the same thing in the US and then Europe. Not that big a deal tbh after the Euros.

Too many sponsorship deals mean every club should be doing these tours. Otherwise clubs will be losing big money.

Also in 2007-08 we went to China for pre season tour and it didn't stop us from winning CL and PL (Should have won the FA cup too, blatantly robbed). So pre season excuse shouldn't be a valid one.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

out of interest any idea if he travelled in pre season with Dortmund or stayed local

Never mate. The only 'overseas' so to speak friendly they had was against L'pool in 2014. Every other one has been Germany, Netherlands, Austria, Poland, Spain. He's all about keeping it local and having as much time pre-season on the training ground as possible.