Have you ever heard of key rotation. It's exactly what We did with Scholes. Your thinking is so binary, it's often not worth trying raise the point. There is a massive gradient between key player you build around and useless.
Dude, he has been in and out the squad all season, I don't know what you're expecting to miraculously happen with him.
Schweinsteiger at this point will be nothing more than a luxury player for us (with his off-field presence more than anything), because we're not going to be able to build anything around a player who comes in and out of the team constantly.
Jeez, he is only 31 guys, it's not like he is 35 and ready for the retirement home. It is what, 8 week injury max? He is only a year older than Rooney for Christ sake. Why is everyone assuming he is done? He isn't. He was a a machine before but only slightly less now. Just could he could run for ever and cover ground like it's nothing, doesn't mean he could run the same amount as the average player does.
Jeez, he is only 31 guys, it's not like he is 35 and ready for the retirement home. It is what, 8 week injury max? He is only a year older than Rooney for Christ sake. Why is everyone assuming he is done? He isn't. He was a a machine before but only slightly less now. Just could he could run for ever and cover ground like it's nothing, doesn't mean he could run the same amount as the average player does.
Jeez, he is only 31 guys, it's not like he is 35 and ready for the retirement home. It is what, 8 week injury max? He is only a year older than Rooney for Christ sake. Why is everyone assuming he is done? He isn't. He was a a machine before but only slightly less now. Just could he could run for ever and cover ground like it's nothing, doesn't mean he could run the same amount as the average player does.
Sorry but comparing him to Rooney is a terrible example. Rooney has looked a shadow of himself for a long time now.
It's thinking like this that makes us have these players needlessly for too long in my opinion. Every injury Schweinsteiger gets now is going to effect him, we're talking mentally and physically here. Like someone mentioned who even knows whether he has that same desire and drive to get back to his best, after all he has achieved everything.
As we seen from the return of his last injury, even when he comes back, he is not in the right physical shape either, at this level and where we are aiming to go, I just can't see him being much use on the pitch for us. We may get the odd good cameo appearance but apart from that, not much else.
ZZ's post a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
It's a 3 to 8 week injury.
Sorry but comparing him to Rooney is a terrible example. Rooney has looked a shadow of himself for a long time now.
It's thinking like this that makes us have these players needlessly for too long in my opinion. Every injury Schweinsteiger gets now is going to effect him, we're talking mentally and physically here. Like someone mentioned who even knows whether he has that same desire and drive to get back to his best, after all he has achieved everything.
As we seen from the return of his last injury, even when he comes back, he is not in the right physical shape either, at this level and where we are aiming to go, I just can't see him being much use on the pitch for us. We may get the odd good cameo appearance but apart from that, not much else.
Of course you can't, your view is instantly no, regardless of whether the facts back it up. He's had much worse and continually returned time and again with great effect.
I know you would think it was an ACL the way some people have posted.
Well, going off this season I don't think we have been any better with him and only two maybe three games where I think he has been particularly good.
I don't know how you can instantly say "no" when we can only go off what we've seen so far this season and how much of a contribution he makes next season.
If it's like this season again I'd deem it a failure personally, I mean even though the appearences you said were somewhat convincing on paper, I'd say in reality it hasn't been.
I know right. The fact that Germany still plan for him at the Euros says it all.
Good enough for Germany, but useless for United? hmmm.....
I know right. The fact that Germany still plan for him at the Euros says it all.
Good enough for Germany, but useless for United? hmmm.....
I know world cup winners, favourites for the euros who play high octane possession football. But apparently his legs have gone and he should just retire. Sometimes I wonder what the **** I am reading.
Its not ideal but he will be back to his industrious best I am sure. Also Mike correct me if I am wrong here people posting Pep did not want him etc etc, didn't Bayern want to keep him? But let him go to united for such a small fee because it was what he wanted? Could be wrong but thats how I remember it, on the open market he would have fetched easily twice what he went for.
I know world cup winners, favourites for the euros who play high octane possession football. But apparently his legs have gone and he should just retire. Sometimes I wonder what the **** I am reading.
Its not ideal but he will be back to his industrious best I am sure. Also Mike correct me if I am wrong here people posting Pep did not want him etc etc, didn't Bayern want to keep him? But let him go to united for such a small fee because it was what he wanted? Could be wrong but thats how I remember it, on the open market he would have fetched easily twice what he went for.
There's a difference though, for Germany he is perfect because of the context how they can utilise him for games and then get significant rest between each game.
When I say 'useless' I'm referring to the context not him specifically as a player.
At United one of our biggest problems this season has been injuries AND never sticking to a consistent starting line up even when players have been performing well. There have been countless cases of players building some good form and then benched for the next few weeks without any reason.
Whereas a player like Schweinsteiger mainly hasn't tied down a place in this team due to injuries and fitness issues, if his condition of coming back from last injury is anything to go by I'm sure we can agree it will take time even after injury for him to be able to play at his best. Not ideal when playing in the most demanding league in terms of fixtures and schedule.
Bastian was excellent everytime he played, bar 2-3 games maybe when he was average.