The Manchester United Thread

[Legend Incredible]

Not sure why you think my opinion is blinkered by Jose going to Utd, Jose's always wanted the Utd job i've always known he would take it one day. We had problems under him and still have problems now i'm not bothered in the slightest trust me. I'm just pointing out what Jose is and that's a quick fix results man and a sensational one of that he is. However because he's so good at that kids aren't part of his plan its just a fact, he demands results instantly which means not taking any risks and kids are a risk. And trust me tactically i'm far happier with Conte than Jose especially in the last 18 months, 4-2-3-1 only got ******* boring.

Are you trying to tell me that Conte is the better tactician?

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[Mike.]

Are you trying to tell me that Conte is the better tactician?

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Conte isn't even as good tactically as Allegri, let alone Mourinho

 

[Mike.]

Bailly is great, hope we do get him. Had an excellent season Angry CB though, but again aggression is something we lack.

 

[Vanjagl]

Of Blid was quicker, he would be first teamer.

 

[Legend Incredible]

If blind had the physical attributes of Phil Jones, I'd probably say we don't need a cb

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[sunilvk7]

Not sure why you think my opinion is blinkered by Jose going to Utd, Jose's always wanted the Utd job i've always known he would take it one day. We had problems under him and still have problems now i'm not bothered in the slightest trust me. I'm just pointing out what Jose is and that's a quick fix results man and a sensational one of that he is. However because he's so good at that kids aren't part of his plan its just a fact, he demands results instantly which means not taking any risks and kids are a risk. And trust me tactically i'm far happier with Conte than Jose especially in the last 18 months, 4-2-3-1 only got ******* boring.

Conte is not tactically superior, in fact he is tactically very average. His team didn't even qualify from group stages in CL. With the same team and without much additions Allegri reached finals and this season his teams was few mins away from knocking out Bayern.

 

[Tyton]

Conte is a fraud.

Get job in Juve ====> Sign Pirlo ===> Acquire titles in a league with no serious teams left ===> genius manager.

 

[sunilvk7]

Yeah this guy and Manolas would be sweet. Next year have Smalling, Manolas, Bailley, Jones with some game time for Tuanzebe and Williams. All most certain Blind and Rojo will be gone.

We might sign one more CB and Bailly as RB too. Hopefully Darmian is given proper shot before discarding him.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

We might sign one more CB and Bailly as RB too. Hopefully Darmian is given proper shot before discarding him.

Yeah could do that. As he can play both sides as FB which is a bonus. I hope he gives Darmian a chance because he was good at the start of last season and as an out and out defending FB is very good.

 

[Alcaraz]

Conte is a fraud.

Get job in Juve ====> Sign Pirlo ===> Acquire titles in a league with no serious teams left ===> genius manager.

So much wrong with this. Sincerely hope you are being sarcastic

 

[Alcaraz]

Conte is not tactically superior, in fact he is tactically very average. His team didn't even qualify from group stages in CL. With the same team and without much additions Allegri reached finals and this season his teams was few mins away from knocking out Bayern.

Well thats a simplistic deduction to make considering Allegri was taking over a team that had been crowned Champions multiple times while Conte took over a team that had finished 7th and was completely low on morale and confidence.

I am not denying that Conte has been average in Europe but you are giving Allegri way too much credit considering Conte had already laid down superb team for him to take over. Also the reason he could not knock out bayern was because of a tactical ****-up he made

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Just seen Axel Tuanzebe made his international debut yesterday for England u19. Serious talent this lad!

 

[sunilvk7]

Well thats a simplistic deduction to make considering Allegri was taking over a team that had been crowned Champions multiple times while Conte took over a team that had finished 7th and was completely low on morale and confidence.

I am not denying that Conte has been average in Europe but you are giving Allegri way too much credit considering Conte had already laid down superb team for him to take over. Also the reason he could not knock out bayern was because of a tactical ****-up he made

Conte's seasons at Juve:
1st season: Champions - CL - didn't qualigy
2nd season: Champions - CL - QFs.
3rd season: Champions - CL - Group stages

So Conte's team was low on confidence when they were out in group stages is wrong. They were champions in the previous 2 seasons.

Agreed about Allegri. Taking out Morata was a costly mistake.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

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[zzeezzy]

I'd axe Jones and Rojo personally, keep Blind.

Jones is next to useless in terms of his injuries and in all honesty hasn't progress hardly at all because of it.

 

[Chelski Shogun]

Are you trying to tell me that Conte is the better tactician?

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I'm a bit late to the conversation but I don't believe that was his point. Mourinho's one of the best tacticians around, and obviously Conte isn't at that level. But the reason Chelsea fans are happier with Conte from a tactical standpoint, is because (on paper at least) he seems more flexible. During José's second spell at SW6 he became very stubborn tactically and with his team selections.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

I'd axe Jones and Rojo personally, keep Blind.

Jones is next to useless in terms of his injuries and in all honesty hasn't progress hardly at all because of it.

Don't think it's helped his development either that he's never had a set position at Utd.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Don't think it's helped his development either that he's never had a set position at Utd.

Agree !! Would keep Jones and sell Blind and Rojo.

 

[Mike.]

Sell Blind?! What's this madness. Blind is the most tactical flexible of all three, the most effective and the least injury phone. You've all gone mad

 

[Alcaraz]

Conte's seasons at Juve:
1st season: Champions - CL - didn't qualigy
2nd season: Champions - CL - QFs.
3rd season: Champions - CL - Group stages

So Conte's team was low on confidence when they were out in group stages is wrong. They were champions in the previous 2 seasons.

Agreed about Allegri. Taking out Morata was a costly mistake.

So he had one decent outing and one failed outing in Europe after he had established his teams superiority domestically. That does not make him a failed tactician. I agree he has been average in Europe but Allegri had the luxury of being allowed to focus more on Europe after Conte had already made Juventus the best team in Italy by a considerable distance in the previous 3 seasons