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Mike. said:
Also his arrival ends mata. Not something I considered. I mean I could go through every mid I rate but literally what's the point. Matuidi means 4-3-3, I I've been thinking 4-2-3-1
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Personally thought Mata was done at Utd as soon as it became apparent Mourinho was taking over.

Not down to system, or that he wouldn't fit as a 10. Just the Mourinho not fancying him factor.
 
Mike. said:
Can't speak for anyone else but I haven't mentioned anyone who I wouldn't think was on the market. I spoke about him loads on the Chelsea thread before. But I couldn't imagine him being for sale. Same reason I only mention naiggolan for Chelsea. Never a target for us.
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U wouldnt think pogba would be but plenty have said it, even before the rumours. Kroos has also been mentioned a lot and there's not even any rumours about him, or any reason to think he's available. That's my point. Practically any world class player gets mentioned for any position, realistic signing or not. Matuidi has never even been thought of, but now it's like he's the best midfielder in the world.
 
steveorobbo said:
What I dont understand is since the season ended, all the conversations about potential signings, realistic or not, nobody has ever mentioned Matuidi, but now he's the best thing since sliced bread and would walk into our team and be the best midfielder we have. How? Nobody has mentioned him, EVER. If he's that good surely he would have been mentioned at least once but now this rumour has come from nowhere he's the best midfielder in the world.
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Well no one ever mentioned modric either but he'd **** over our midfield

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Mike. said:
Also his arrival ends mata. Not something I considered. I mean I could go through every mid I rate but literally what's the point. Matuidi means 4-3-3, I I've been thinking 4-2-3-1
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If we are getting Matuidi, are we still in for Pogba?
 
steveorobbo said:
U wouldnt think pogba would be but plenty have said it, even before the rumours. Kroos has also been mentioned a lot and there's not even any rumours about him, or any reason to think he's available. That's my point. Practically any world class player gets mentioned for any position, realistic signing or not. Matuidi has never even been thought of, but now it's like he's the best midfielder in the world.
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Well firstly no one has made him anything like the best midfielder in the world. Secondly why would I mention a box to box mid when Im thinking we are playing 4-23-1 and therefore need a playmaker there? I've been very consistent on that. Matuidi is a shift to 4-3-3 which means you want a box to box next to the playmaker. Different set up entirely. Different players. Looking at him,Neves Witsel
 
Yeah that lineup makes no sense to me. Who's the passer here? Please don't tell me it's supposed to be Pogba. Who's the holding mid? Both Schneiderlin and Matuidi like to bomb forward. That's why PSG brought Krychowiak, who doesn't offer as much in terms of forward runs but is more disciplined defensively.

4-3-3 is basically supposed to have a passer, a runner, and a destroyer, right? You have 2 runners and no passer. And in the backup lineup you have 2 passers and whatever Herrera is.

Makes no sense unless I'm missing something.
 
Tyton said:
Yeah that lineup makes no sense to me. Who's the passer here? Please don't tell me it's supposed to be Pogba. Who's the holding mid? Both Schneiderlin and Matuidi like to bomb forward. That's why PSG brought Krychowiak, who doesn't offer as much in terms of forward runs but is more disciplined defensively.

4-3-3 is basically supposed to have a passer, a runner, and a destroyer, right? You have 2 runners and no passer. And in the backup lineup you have 2 passers and whatever Herrera is.

Makes no sense unless I'm missing something.
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Actually, both Matuidi and Schneiderlin are sharp passers and great tacklers.
 

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Tyton said:
Yeah that lineup makes no sense to me. Who's the passer here? Please don't tell me it's supposed to be Pogba. Who's the holding mid? Both Schneiderlin and Matuidi like to bomb forward. That's why PSG brought Krychowiak, who doesn't offer as much in terms of forward runs but is more disciplined defensively.

4-3-3 is basically supposed to have a passer, a runner, and a destroyer, right? You have 2 runners and no passer. And in the backup lineup you have 2 passers and whatever Herrera is.

Makes no sense unless I'm missing something.
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Pogba isn't a just a runner. He's certainly a passer too



Carrick and Schweinsteiger and both hold and pass.

Providing you hold the midfield, you can play multiple combinations in front.
 
brunoh said:
Actually, both Matuidi and Schneiderlin are sharp passers and great tacklers.
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Exactly. I think Tyton means a dedicated playmaker. But that's exactly how pogba will go I think. That 6 gives us so many combinations any way. Not evening thinking about Rooney because I'm not convinced he will make the midfield the way he finished the euros.
 
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James Cooper, just after 9am this morning on Sky Sports News outside Old Trafford, reckoned that Henrikh would be having the second part of his medical today.
 
Has the press conference started?

I really want us to stay 4-2-3-1, with the ability to go 4-3-3. Which means a second playmmaker
 
Ready to watch the press conference and I would of loved Pjanic, he would of been able to really be that playmaker who has a great passing range. Pogba is more of a box to box in my eyes but he does have a good passing range as well.

I still think we might lack that tempo dictating/playmaking midfielder to be honest, kind of like the Fabregas role at Chelsea.
 
Sitting with my cuppa, ready for Jose.
Thank god He has PL experience ;)
 
zzeezzy said:
Ready to watch the press conference and I would of loved Pjanic, he would of been able to really be that playmaker who has a great passing range. Pogba is more of a box to box in my eyes but he does have a good passing range as well.

I still think we might lack that tempo dictating/playmaking midfielder to be honest, kind of like the Fabregas role at Chelsea.
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That's why I prefer 4-2-3-1, Pjanic would have played a bit higher. The ideal is Kroos, but if Pogba is not on their radar, then he is definitely not for sale.

We've still got Herrera to be fair, who fits that tryo role for Jose, and would have more freedom than under LVG

It really depends on our shape, and who stays
 
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