The Manchester United Thread

[Legend Incredible]

Pogba has been non existant really. Like I said, he's overrated.

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[Legend Incredible]

Ok, i've been quiet till now on whole this Pogba thing.
Is Pogba really such a big difference on the pitch for Juventus and France? Are there players who can do similar job but go under the radar? What exactly is Pogba? What kind of midfielder? He seems decently rounded with good technique. For me - he's not the final piece, not for that price anyway.

YES!

To this!

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[Theatre of dreams]

Pogba has been non existant really. Like I said, he's overrated.

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Lol post of the year!!!

 

[zzeezzy]

Pogba has been non existant really. Like I said, he's overrated.

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He can be the most enjoyable or the most frustrating player, unfortunately a lot of fans will be disappointed if they expect to see a player worth £100m. It's not like Ronaldo or Bale.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

This has been one of the poorest tournaments in overall quality I can remember, Not one stand out side.

This final just encapsulates the poor standard overall.

 

[Joel`]

You should try saying that at shareholder meeting. People expect longterm prospects from their stock, spending a 100 million just because you can is out of the question.

Most shareholders are pretty against cash hoarding and a reluctance to invest.

It's not £100m that'd never be seen again. It's £100m into an asset. He would add significant value via - hopefully - improved team performances. On pitch success is by far the biggest factor in the share price. Also, he'd retain significant value if we wished to sell him on in the future and he'd generate an awful lot of off pitch revenue.

 

[epic terrorist]

This has been one of the poorest tournaments in overall quality I can remember, Not one stand out side.

This final just encapsulates the poor standard overall.

And to make it even more odd there have been some absolute stonkers of goals, when the beeb showed their goal of the tourney contenders earlier some of of them have been of the highest quality

 

[Mike.]

Lol post of the year!!!

He can be the most enjoyable or the most frustrating player, unfortunately a lot of fans will be disappointed if they expect to see a player worth £100m. It's not like Ronaldo or Bale.

Pogba has been non existant really. Like I said, he's overrated.

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It's actually because he's been playing as a holding mid all game.

he's made the most passes on the pitch, but they been distributory passes rather than incisive.

Why Deschamps has set it up that way is beyond me.

 

[zzeezzy]

It's actually because he's been playing as a holding mid all game.

True, Deschamps doesn't utilise him well at all this tournament in my opinion.

I don't rate Deschamps as a manager at all, he's got lucky having a good squad and poor opposition. Not even using Martial hardly at all this tournament is a joke.

 

[Mike.]

True, Deschamps doesn't utilise him well at all this tournament in my opinion.

I don't rate Deschamps as a manager at all, he's got lucky having a good squad and poor opposition. Not even using Martial hardly at all this tournament is a joke.

You play Kante behind him and Matuidi.

And now France may pay for it.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

And to make it even more odd there have been some absolute stonkers of goals, when the beeb showed their goal of the tourney contenders earlier some of of them have been of the highest quality

And there's another completely out of context to the rest of the game.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

It's actually because he's been playing as a holding mid all game.

he's made the most passes on the pitch, but they been distributory passes rather than incisive.

Why Deschamps has set it up that way is beyond me.

Some of Dechamp decisions have been head scratching!

 

[Mike.]

Once Portugal fell away from trying to press, he needed to free Pogba, and didnt. Then he brings on Gignac, when it should have been a double sub of Martial and Kante on to go 4-3-3.

 

[Subtle]

Once Portugal fell away from trying to press, he needed to free Pogba, and didnt. Then he brings on Gignac, when it should have been a double sub of Martial and Kante on to go 4-3-3.

I liked how he brought a player who is a great goal threat from the wings, and a player who hasn't played on the wings in a while / has been doing really well as a striker, then played the latter on the wing and didn't play the former at all. Michael *** got **** from people for saying pre-tournament that Conte was by far the best manager there but even that seems like an understatement now. From Roy to Deschamps to Low, this has got to be one of the most tactically awful tournaments I've ever seen. They all seemed to think they were playing in 2012.

 

[Mike.]

I liked how he brought a player who is a great goal threat from the wings, and a player who hasn't played on the wings in a while / has been doing really well as a striker, then played the latter on the wing and didn't play the former at all. Michael *** got **** from people for saying pre-tournament that Conte was by far the best manager there but even that seems like an understatement now. From Roy to Deschamps to Low, this has got to be one of the most tactically awful tournaments I've ever seen. They all seemed to think they were playing in 2012.

And it led to such a low quality tournament. Even Conte has now bolted to club football.

 

[morimech]

True, Deschamps doesn't utilise him well at all this tournament in my opinion.

I don't rate Deschamps as a manager at all, he's got lucky having a good squad and poor opposition. Not even using Martial hardly at all this tournament is a joke.

I was wondering why United were going to make a holding midfielder the most expensive transfer in history.

 

[kitchin75]

I was wondering why United were going to make a holding midfielder the most expensive transfer in history.

thats the best you could come up with your not even trying

 

[Legend Incredible]

thats the best you could come up with your not even trying

Actually, that's fresh material.

What i've been hearing all week is "So united are breaking the bang for an academy player"

 

[Tyton]

Most shareholders are pretty against cash hoarding and a reluctance to invest.

It's not £100m that'd never be seen again. It's £100m into an asset. He would add significant value via - hopefully - improved team performances. On pitch success is by far the biggest factor in the share price. Also, he'd retain significant value if we wished to sell him on in the future and he'd generate an awful lot of off pitch revenue.

Yeah, it's an investment into an asset. But terms of a football club, an investment also means another asset needs to be sidelined and will start losing value. This isn't like a normal business were your different properties continue to generate revenue even after the latest acquisition. Unused $30 million players generate nothing but costs.

It has zero impact on the shareholder meeting, spending cash you easily have has zero impact on stock value. They have **** all say in how the money is spent too. They can ask questions, but they have absolutely no control on how the club is run.

Of course they don't have any say on footballing matters, but they have plenty to say about your finances. Shareholders of a publicly traded company expect a tightly run ship. You can't seriously be thinking United are now going to start hoarding 50 unused players just because they can easily afford that. If you make a world record transfer, there's bound to be a clearout. It's just how it is.

 

[Alcaraz]

Yeah, it's an investment into an asset. But terms of a football club, an investment also means another asset needs to be sidelined and will start losing value. This isn't like a normal business were your different properties continue to generate revenue even after the latest acquisition. Unused $30 million players generate nothing but costs.



Of course they don't have any say on footballing matters, but they have plenty to say about your finances. Shareholders of a publicly traded company expect a tightly run ship. You can't seriously be thinking United are now going to start hoarding 50 unused players just because they can easily afford that. If you make a world record transfer, there's bound to be a clearout. It's just how it is.

Some fair points here. If United buy Pogba, it consequently means that another player will play less and sit on the bench more. Consequently, he will be worth much less if United decide to sell him in the transfer market. That means you have to revise and lower his so-called 'salvage value' which leads to greater ammortization expense if length of his contract remains the same. Subsequently, one can expect revenue from merchandise and shirt sales for said player to lower as well.

But in this case the benefits of getting Pogba with the requisite on-the-pitch performances and other financial benefits will outweight the costs of sidelining someone like Fellaini.