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On a point, Marchisio would have been a better alternative option to Matuidi, but signing him would have been all but impossible
 
steveorobbo said:
Going in for 50/50's isnt the be all and end all. When does Carrick ever go in for a 50/50. He doesnt even go for headers 90% of the time. He just reads the game and puts himself into the best position. Cant put conceding a goal down to Mata not going in for a 50/50. If we conceded a goal it was because something wasnt right elsewhere, and it should have been dealt with before he was even put in that position.

Put it this way, if Carrick had a pair of bollocks we would have never lost that FA Cup semi to Portsmouth. The ball was 3 yards out and all Carrick had to do was fly in and put the ball over the line. He **** it coz he doesnt like going in for a tackle and the ball was cleared.

Not sure on everyone elses opinion but from what ive seen of Bailly hes absolute *****. He did do better against Galatasary, and hes not had a lot of games to show much but from what ive seen so far hes done nothing to show me he deserves to be in the team over somebody like McNair. £30m? Seriously? Im not one to jump in straight away, otherwise Vidic and Evra would have been gone after that derby, but ive just not seen anything from Bailly that is either worth him being in the squad or worth £30m.
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Odd that you think bailly has been *****...meanwhile I've been impressed with him considering his raw. Only downside is he sells himself too much but he's got really good pace to recover. I think he's got world class potential and who better to get the best out of him that mourinho? Especially when he's tutored young CBs like varane and zouma

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Mike. said:
On a point, Marchisio would have been a better alternative option to Matuidi, but signing him would have been all but impossible
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That's right. Also, I remember we've tried to sign Marchisio a few seasons back. Think it was back in the Fergie era.
 
I don't get the hate for Bailly at all, a few pre season games and apparently he is '*****'?

From what I've watched of preseason, admittedly not much but watched the whole of last game vs Galatasary and he looked impressive. Still raw and not sure how well he would work with Smalling but time shall tell.
 
razielioux said:
That's right. Also, I remember we've tried to sign Marchisio a few seasons back. Think it was back in the Fergie era.
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Yep, at the time Juve were considering not keeping him. He would never have left of his own volition.

His parents have been season holders for decades. He was born a Juve fan, started his career there as a ballboy at 7 and has been there ever since.
 
What people saying Bailly **** :O He's been very good saved us a couple of goals against gala with his possitional play and pace. And is fairly good with the ball at his feet and good in the air. Once Mou irons out his diving in to much he will be quality. I wonder what fans watch and think sometimes. Memphis has also looked more confident this pre season. After that poor miss in the first game I think he's been ok. In fact was good against Gala beating players, tricks and pace.
 
Mike. said:
On a point, Marchisio would have been a better alternative option to Matuidi, but signing him would have been all but impossible
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Isn't he out injured as well for a while on top of being impossible to sign and probably not wanting to leave juventus
 
ninjaskill said:
Isn't he out injured as well for a while on top of being impossible to sign and probably not wanting to leave juventus
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Yep, ligament injury. He will never want to leave Juve. Juve will have to push him out.
 
Legend Incredimaria said:
Odd that you think bailly has been *****...meanwhile I've been impressed with him considering his raw. Only downside is he sells himself too much but he's got really good pace to recover. I think he's got world class potential and who better to get the best out of him that mourinho? Especially when he's tutored young CBs like varane and zouma

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If that's the case, Gabriel Paulista should do a worldie! What is it with aggressive defenders from other leagues? They all seem to be obsessed with diving in.
 
Haha, just seen the Moyesey interview in which he tells the press that they're after Januzaj and blondie Felli.
Something never changes. Still can't believe this guy has Manchester United on his CV.
 
razielioux said:
Haha, just seen the Moyesey interview in which he tells the press that they're after Januzaj and blondie Felli.
Something never changes. Still can't believe this guy has Manchester United on his CV.
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Or that Ferguson still defends hand picking him.

Protecting his legacy with someone he knew would struggle? Because there's absolutely zero logical reason you can come up with to give someone who hadn't won a thing in over a ten year managerial career the Utd gig.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Or that Ferguson still defends hand picking him.

Protecting his legacy with someone he knew would struggle? Because there's absolutely zero logical reason you can come up with to give someone who hadn't won a thing in over a ten year managerial career the Utd gig.
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I thought Moyes was great what you talking about should still be in the job now ;)

In all seriousness though whoever they got was always on a hiding to nothing, Moyes failed and LVG wasn't great although the work LVG did I do genuinely think Jose will reap the benefits of. For all his failings he did some good groundwork just as he has at other clubs.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Or that Ferguson still defends hand picking him.

Protecting his legacy with someone he knew would struggle? Because there's absolutely zero logical reason you can come up with to give someone who hadn't won a thing in over a ten year managerial career the Utd gig.
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Tbf, from all indication, moyes was his last option behind guardiola, ancelotti and perhaps Jose himself (as he already made up his mind to return to chelsea)

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epic terrorist said:
..... In all seriousness though whoever they got was always on a hiding to nothing, Moyes failed .....
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Oh, absolutely. Which is another reason why Paisley is right up there with Ferguson as the best of all time IMHO. The hardest job in football management is following an absolute legend as Utd have discovered. Paisley not only reluctantly followed Shankly, he blew his trophy's out of the water. Rebuilding the side twice and doing all he did in a 9 year spell. So whomever followed Ferguson was on a hiding to nothing. And let's be honest it wasn't a great squad by any means for a Ferguson squad to be inheriting.

But to still stick to it that Moyes was the right appointment and he'd do it all again ..... Something doesn't sit right at all there to be kind.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Oh, absolutely. Which is another reason why Paisley is right up there with Ferguson as the best of all time IMHO. The hardest job in football management is following an absolute legend as Utd have discovered. Paisley not only reluctantly followed Shankly, he blew his trophy's out of the water. Rebuilding the side twice and doing all he did in a 9 year spell. So whomever followed Ferguson was on a hiding to nothing. And let's be honest it wasn't a great squad by any means for a Ferguson squad to be inheriting.

But to still stick to it that Moyes was the right appointment and he'd do it all again ..... Something doesn't sit right at all there to be kind.
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its an interesting question though who should they have gone with instead I am struggling to think who was available at the time, and for the reasons you mentioned its probably why people avoided the job.

I'll put it out there to United fans now to have some interesting forum discussion

you can go back 3 years who do you go and get and why?
 
epic terrorist said:
its an interesting question though who should they have gone with instead I am struggling to think who was available at the time, and for the reasons you mentioned its probably why people avoided the job.

I'll put it out there to United fans now to have some interesting forum discussion

you can go back 3 years who do you go and get and why?
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Same person I said then who was free. Mourinho
 
Mike. said:
.... Charlton point blank blocked the move.
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Has he spoken on the appointment? On or off the record do you know? I mean he'd be as diplomatic as ever regardless like, but just curious if he's had anything to say given how he's always been dead against him coming into Utd.
 
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