The Manchester United Thread

I still quietly think United will nick this game. Bravo looks shambolic out there. Complete clown. To throw him into the biggest derby of the season like that may not have been smart at all...
 
Rashford for Lingard was expected. Surprised to see Herrera for Mikh. Mourinho wants more time on the ball, i guess.
 
Mkhitaryan looked sluggish, still not match fit I'd say. Rashford is already looking sharp though
 
Disappointing if we lose this. Definitely had good chances this half after being awful first half. Both sides are going to be huge threats all season. Neither have really got going yet.
 
Even if United lose there are definitely a few positives to take from this result. Would still be massively disappointing, but still a lot of the season to go :)
 
Whenever West Brom vs Man City is I can see Bravo sitting on the bench that weekend
 
Well, massively disappointingly loss. But hey, it's early days and City played exceptionally well in the first half, especially in the first thirty minutes.

34 games to go. With Bravo in goal for City they should lose a lot of points :D
 
Super entertaining game, I was afraid to look away even for a second.

What happened with Pogba though? I thought the transfer is already confirmed and he's going to play today.
 
Can anybody explain why Rooney was on the pitch for that last 15 minutes? He's supposed to be the number 10. Spends most of the game in midfield, then in injury time hes at left back. That's without his **** corners. We are missing out on so much forward play because he's in our own half instead of behind the striker. Somebody needs to look long and hard at what he's in the team for and what he's expected to do. Because if he's gonna stand in midfield we may as well start Herrera and put mata or mkhitaryan at number 10.

Last kick of the game and Rooney is taking a free kick near the half way line. WHY??? Is blind not capable of playing that same ball into the box? Same goes for his position in the England team. If he's number 10 then play at 10. If he's gonna drop into midfield and leave us without a 10 then **** him off for a proper midfielder or a proper number 10

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steveorobbo said:
Can anybody explain why Rooney was on the pitch for that last 15 minutes? He's supposed to be the number 10. Spends most of the game in midfield, then in injury time hes at left back. That's without his **** corners. We are missing out on so much forward play because he's in our own half instead of behind the striker. Somebody needs to look long and hard at what he's in the team for and what he's expected to do. Because if he's gonna stand in midfield we may as well start Herrera and put mata or mkhitaryan at number 10.

Last kick of the game and Rooney is taking a free kick near the half way line. WHY??? Is blind not capable of playing that same ball into the box? Same goes for his position in the England team. If he's number 10 then play at 10. If he's gonna drop into midfield and leave us without a 10 then **** him off for a proper midfielder or a proper number 10

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He was moved to CM after Martial came on and as for the free kick at the halfway line you do realise that is where our first goal came from. For all the criticism he gets he was important to that goal, the one against Hull, the winner against Southampton and scored the winner against Bournemouth. It's almost like players who can help get goals are liked by managers
 
That one hurt, I felt we could've really gotten something from that game. After the half time whistle, we came out of the blocks the much better side, even Pep recognised that hence the reason he sacrificed his only striker for a defensive midfielder in an attempt to somehow get some control back (which to be fair, he did). Lingard shouldn't have started, Rashford was really lively when he came on. We should've approached the first half in the manner in which we approached the second.

Fair play to City, who really really good, superb game for the mutual. On now to Feyenoord with one eye on another huge 3 points away to Watford next Sunday, eager to see how we bounce back from this defeat. See you lot in February.
 
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He was moved to CM after Martial came on and as for the free kick at the halfway line you do realise that is where our first goal came from. For all the criticism he gets he was important to that goal, the one against Hull, the winner against Southampton and scored the winner against Bournemouth. It's almost like players who can help get goals are liked by managers
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So what was his excuse before martial came on? He naturally drifts backwards. So what is the point in setting up in a 4-2-3-1 with Rooney at 10 if he's gonna drop back and make a 4-3-2(wide)-1? It's a waste of a player. May as well set up as a 4-3-3. Look at how many times zlatan had the ball at the edge of the box and had to rush a shot because there was nobody behind him to pass to, or nobody in the 10 position running in behind to play the ball over to.

His free kick for the goal was a bit further up the pitch. But it was in the middle of the game so you expect that. But last kick of the game and the ball is being pumped into the box, why is our (nearly) record scorer taking a free kick on the half way line? They must have known it was last kick or there abouts. So let blind or Valencia take it and throw Rooney in the box.

It's been happening for 3 years now. The later a game gets, and the more we need a goal, Rooney drops further and further back trying to force something. He's practically broke every record for scoring goals. He should be in the box instead of ******* about. Are you seriously telling me a defender or a midfielder can't just pump a ball into the box? With crosses like that your not picking out a man, your playing it into a general area, so there's no reason why Rooney should be there at that time of a match doing something any other player on the pitch can do. Even de gea could have took that free kick and put it up into the box

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ninjaskill said:
He was moved to CM after Martial came on and as for the free kick at the halfway line you do realise that is where our first goal came from. For all the criticism he gets he was important to that goal, the one against Hull, the winner against Southampton and scored the winner against Bournemouth. It's almost like players who can help get goals are liked by managers
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Also if players that create goals are liked by managers, where was Mata? Where was rashford? Mata has been part of the winning team to start the season, and rashford scored last game and then a hat-trick for England. Really you have hit the nail on the head.

Rooney has been influential in nearly every game. And look at the last game when he set up rashford for the winner. Where was Rooney on the pitch? What was he doing? He was up there driving into the box with the ball making something happen. Like a number 10/striker should. Not stood on the half way line taking a **** free kick that even the keeper could have took.

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steveorobbo said:
So what was his excuse before martial came on? He naturally drifts backwards. So what is the point in setting up in a 4-2-3-1 with Rooney at 10 if he's gonna drop back and make a 4-3-2(wide)-1? It's a waste of a player. May as well set up as a 4-3-3. Look at how many times zlatan had the ball at the edge of the box and had to rush a shot because there was nobody behind him to pass to, or nobody in the 10 position running in behind to play the ball over to.
His free kick for the goal was a bit further up the pitch. But it was in the middle of the game so you expect that. But last kick of the game and the ball is being pumped into the box, why is our (nearly) record scorer taking a free kick on the half way line? They must have known it was last kick or there abouts. So let blind or Valencia take it and throw Rooney in the box.

It's been happening for 3 years now. The later a game gets, and the more we need a goal, Rooney drops further and further back trying to force something. He's practically broke every record for scoring goals. He should be in the box instead of ******* about. Are you seriously telling me a defender or a midfielder can't just pump a ball into the box? With crosses like that your not picking out a man, your playing it into a general area, so there's no reason why Rooney should be there at that time of a match doing something any other player on the pitch can do. Even de gea could have took that free kick and put it up into the box

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Given that Mourinho has won a couple of Champions Leagues and I'm sure you have won more on FM he really should defer to you in choosing players shouldn't he. I mean he's only got eleven best coach in the world awards he clearly knows nothing about tactics and where to play players

That isn't a new thing for him after he had his foot broken from a corner he almost never goes in the box for a set piece and given that he is 5'10 I have no problem with him hitting in a free kick. If he were a couple of inches taller I would be annoyed but, given the height in the team and that he is small fine with him hitting it in.
 
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Also if players that create goals are liked by managers, where was Mata? Where was rashford? Mata has been part of the winning team to start the season, and rashford scored last game and then a hat-trick for England. Really you have hit the nail on the head.

Rooney has been influential in nearly every game. And look at the last game when he set up rashford for the winner. Where was Rooney on the pitch? What was he doing? He was up there driving into the box with the ball making something happen. Like a number 10/striker should. Not stood on the half way line taking a **** free kick that even the keeper could have took.

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Rooney has created and scored more than both of them and Rashford came off the bench which was fair enough for me.

It's almost like he moves around the pitch and goes into different areas and since you are blaming him you remember the bad bits due to conformation bias
 
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