The Manchester United Thread

Scouseinthehouse said:
Unfortunately realism and the modern day football fan doesn't fly with all the money spent.

Horrible week for you huh mate? Never saw that coming even taking into account the spot on reasons of the above.
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We were outplayed by the best team in England in my opinion, I'm willing to ignore the Europa League game, as in hindsight that defeat to an offside goal more than likely won't prove too costly... unlike slip up's like today. As I said, Watford will cause plenty of teams problems this season, especially the more time Mazzarri has to work with them, but you simply can not lose these type of games (especially coming off the back of a couple of setbacks) and expect to win the title.
 
If Maroune Fellaini stands out as your best player in the middle of the park, you've got a problem
 
Matt419 said:
Oh well, no top 4 for United this season :P

No top 6 as long as Rooney is in the team...
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Yup - shooting ourselves in the foot once again after the Man City match.

Playing a 4231 or indeed the 343 Mou tries when the going gets tough will get us nowhere. We should use the 433 which Mou has mostly used in the past. Forget about accommodating Rooney. A 2cm formation with Pogba and Fellaini/whoever shackles and wastes Pog who anyway will drift into attacking positions leaving the other cm stranded and overrun and the team unable to control the mf. Also it means there' s acres of space between the midfield and the attacking players so ball will hardly reach them.
 
RhQQ said:
It's got nothing to do with individuals, there's no point singling anyone out. We're simply not in sync as a unit; no basic understanding, a severe lack of interplay, which I can understand under new management, new staff additions & a under a revamped playing style, but I fear the time it will take to gain that understanding, togetherness & fluency under Mourinho, we may have already conceded too much ground at that point.
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Idk, it has more to do with balance. If the balance is right, the team will sync well.

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I'm in major depress mode right now

The only slight glimmer of hope I have right now is that Mourinho traditionally makes his home stadium a fortress, so if you forgive the derby defeat, then let's just get the league cup game out of the way and bring on the champions at Old Trafford on Saturday (says RhQQ somewhat optimistically)
 
Legend Incredimaria said:
Idk, it has more to do with balance. If the balance is right, the team will sync well.

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But we had Schneiderlin, Pogba & Herrera all together against Feyenoord, and we looked just as much out of sync.
 
It's all a process, but given how well we played against Bournemouth, Southampton & Hull, you can't blame me or any other United fans for not expecting the same here :@
 
I'm not blaming it all on Fellaini but as long as he plays as a DM in a 3 or in a 2 against teams that have clever movers in the CM area we will struggle. Same goes for Rooney playing in midfield, he plays as a STR or not at all for me.
 
The Mourinho meltdown isn't usually due for another season or two is it?
 
RhQQ said:
It's all a process, but given how well we played against Bournemouth, Southampton & Hull, you can't blame me or any other United fans for not expecting the same here :@
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You were far from great in any of those games.

Hull was the best and deserved win but they still had quite a few chances. Southampton never had their shooting boots on or else that could of been another catastrophe before half time. Bournemouth, I never saw bar passing glances down at Arsenal before our game but it was far from stellar by all accounts.

Point being people went ridiculously OTT after those first three, and the Charity Shield. Which I get. It might not of been great but unlike LVG Utd were winning games again. But it's a process as has been mentioned and people don't need to go OTT the other way now there's been a dip. You knew what you were getting in Mourinho. It's not going to be pretty a lot of the time and a lot of hard watches but he'll get you results. But even that is going to take time and many, many hours of repetition in training to get them fully drilled.

You win 3. You lose 3. That's football.
 
I thought our second half performance against Southampton was some of the best attacking football I've seen at Old Trafford in a long time, although that isn't saying a whole pile
 
I gues the problem is Mourinho having too many 'untouchables' on his team.He is at his best when he is able to do tactics without having to keep players in mind(e.g. Inter)He ends up having a meltdown when he goes to big clubs because the egos there and having to adapt his tactics to them.The pity is that he leaves the clubs where he does very well, looking to manage big clubs like real while he is better off managing clubs like Atletico or Inter
 
I'll never understand why United didn't try to lock down Pep instead. He would be a perfect replacement for LVG, the team was already well drilled in everything that Pep wants to do, it just needed some finishing touches, taking the shackles off a bit, and it'd be ready to challenge.

Instead they bring Mourinho who will play completely different style, the rebuilding needs to start from scratch and they have to go through another 1-2 years of "it's a process" excuses. Terrible management.
 
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