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So as regards Greizmann Atlético have given him permission to talk to other clubs?
Why in the World would they do that now?
Why in the World would they do that now?
That's another mistake. The 4-2-3-1 is a fundamentally flawed formation. The only manager I can remember winning the UCL with it in recent history was Jupp Heynckes. Even then, he had some sort of magic on his side. If Mourinho has enough sense, I can't see the 4-2-3-1.
County the numerous of times the clueless pundits say that a player 'should have scored'. The reality is that they'd exceed the number of goals scored in football.
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They just need to take the next step and win the Champions League under Allegri. He's a fantastic squad builder.
They're moving into a new 68,000 seater stadium next season and need the cash. Also, Simeone is allegedly not going to stand in the player's way. He has a €100 Million release clause. It's clear United are prepared to all least pay close to it.
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Even if they were thinking of cashing in the summer, there's 3/4 months of this season left.
That makes no sense why you'd distract a key player like that. And then there's the knock-on with other teammates and the support.
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No really mate those chances I mentioned should of been put away no doubt. Yes the keeper made a good save but Pogba should of done a lot better it was to close to the keeper and a favourable hieght. Rashford just blew his wad and scuffed a guilt edge chance after doing the hard part controlling a taking pass from Pogba over his shoulder, leaving him clean through with no defender within a metre of him. Zlatan just shanked his effort wide from 8 yard out. Really need to be putting those chances away, but we've seen so many times in games we've drawn the players have not been clinical enough!
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Don't think it effects players tbh. Especially when it's been pretty obvious since the start of the season he's Mourinho next piece of the puzzle. And funny enough his form has picked up since Christmas when the news really started circling. Maybe he can play with freedom and clear though now his future is sorted. And can give Atletico his all and best for the remainder of his time there.
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Kevin Keegan springs instantly to mind. Deal agreed with Hamburg for the following season. He got accused all season long of not putting it in all year long. From the support more than anyone. Regardless of the fact he was an absolute legend and the team got within a whisker of a league/ FA and European Cup treble. He opened himself and the team up to controversy all that season.
The knock-on effect if a club where to 'officially' do that is potentially disastrous. Be stupid to allow that before the summer and take the chance that he'd still give everything/ his teammates would be sound with it/ there'd be no fan backlash et all.
You'd have to be an exceptional strong character to not let it effect you. Madrid's season starts slipping away. Meh, I'm not here next year anyway.
As it happens, I can't find anything official from Madrid that say's they are gonna' sell him let alone that they've given him permission to speak to anyone.
*Edit* And he just extended last summer through 2021 in a big new deal. There shouldn't be any uncertainty over his future just a year into that.
The knock-on effect if a club where to 'officially' do that is potentially disastrous. Be stupid to allow that before the summer and take the chance that he'd still give everything/ his teammates would be sound with it/ there'd be no fan backlash et all.
You'd have to be an exceptional strong character to not let it effect you. Madrid's season starts slipping away. Meh, I'm not here next year anyway.
As it happens, I can't find anything official from Madrid that say's they are gonna' sell him let alone that they've given him permission to speak to anyone.
*Edit* And he just extended last summer through 2021 in a big new deal. There shouldn't be any uncertainty over his future just a year into that.
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Maybe they have in ways mate but not when I've watched this juve haha.
When Allegri can win the league undefeated with Matri as their top league scorer with 10 (I think??) I'll agree XD
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My god that was a fun 15 or so pages to catch up on
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I know he ultimately won Milan's last title but that was a hard Milan side to watch under Max.
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It'll just be the typical Atletico negotiating tactic, he is not for sale unless you hit the release clause
Why it's not our tactics it's our finishing and keepers having blinders against us. And dodgy refs that's costing us. Nothing more. Dont over complicate things
When these things start becoming habitual, there's normally a reason for it. We were saying the same things a while back.
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I forget the season. One of Rafa's last. Where L'pool smashed the record for the amount of times the woodwork was hit. It started out 'Oh FFS! We can't buy any luck/ Can we get any more unlucky?' etc. Which the more it kept happening as the season rolled changed to 'FFS! Just what the F do these clowns do in training that they can't get the ball inside that white thing! That's not being unlucky. That's just **** poor finishing' etc.
It fast runs thin when the same thing happens over and over and you then look hard at your own failings.
I get what you mean Scouse, but Griezmann is actually playing better since it came out. Now whether it happens or not is another thing, but it's having a positive effect, or statue very least, no adverse effect on him.
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Why it's not our tactics it's our finishing and keepers having blinders against us. And dodgy refs that's costing us. Nothing more. Dont over complicate things
That would be those same dodgy refs that missed the offside in your equaliser against us?
I don't get all this hype about 'the first phase', yes it's true that there are far better managers than Mourinho at it such as LVG and Pep Guardiola etc etc.
But ultimately, playing out from the back and having an insistence on it in this league is suicide a lot of the time. Just look at City this season and Pep trying to do it with that defence.
I'll take a manager like Mourinho any day who actually managers to get the ball in the opponents box more than once in a game than someone like LVG who gets us to build from the back and we watch a game of our team passing it in the wrong direction to try and score a goal.
But ultimately, playing out from the back and having an insistence on it in this league is suicide a lot of the time. Just look at City this season and Pep trying to do it with that defence.
I'll take a manager like Mourinho any day who actually managers to get the ball in the opponents box more than once in a game than someone like LVG who gets us to build from the back and we watch a game of our team passing it in the wrong direction to try and score a goal.
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James Cooper on SSN said he spoke with people at the club about Griezmann. But answered they couldn't comment on the situation.
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Lol. Lemme guess what happened after...Valencia stopped and passed it back to rooney?
Anyways, you can't blame this all on mourinho. They've been sooooo many matches this season that we've drawn where we shouldn't have honestly. A common theme is the lack of finishing. You can blame mourinho for anything else BUT finishing. Finishing is down to the players and not the manager. We're top 3 in chances created in the epl but our conversion rate is somewhere around 13th. Under LVG, we were so clinical in front of goal but created little.
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