The Manchester United Thread

djs1 said:
never thought wed win today but a few poor performances from players that should be playing for their futures,still i thought mata played very well
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See, you say that and it's easy to look at the attacking players but that was a typical Mourinho away performance against a top side. Sit and defend deep and if you nick something great. It's hard for the attacking players to do much of anything when they're expected to work backwards defending all the time.
 
Souness talking out of his **** again. Saying Mata and Mkytarian don't like playing wide in any system. He does realise they've both played there throughout a lot of there careers. Onto Stockholm :)
 
God Moutinho does talk a load of twaddle. In control? Yeah, if you're talking about Arsenal. Lot's of chances? Uhmmm, one from Rooney after Holdings slip and then ......You tried to win? Yeah, again if you're talking about Arsenal.

I'm spinning off his spinning.
 
Great debut by Tuanzebe today! Was strong and composed and always tried to use the ball instead of hoofing it. Tidy passes and showed great pace nullifying Sanchez most the game. Most probs Utds best player tbh.
 
Theatre of dreams said:
Great debut by Tuanzebe today! Was strong and composed and always tried to use the ball instead of hoofing it. Tidy passes and showed great pace nullifying Sanchez most the game. Most probs Utds best player tbh.
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Shout. The young man looked as though he belonged at this level. Which is what we've both been saying all year on his ability and him needing a chance.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Shout. The young man looked as though he belonged at this level. Which is what we've both been saying all year on his ability and him needing a chance.
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Yep. We've both been banging this drum after every round of u23s fixtures. Bin off both Smalling and Jones then promote him full time to first team squad. Plus as showed today he's more than good enough to cover Valencia at RB.
 
Just watching a few replays of today's match. Feel a little sorry for McTominey looked like his shot was going in from the angle I've seen. Could of had a debut goal, well done Rooney :( Also noticed Carrick has looked way off the pace as the season has gone on. I'm starting to think he won't get offered a new deal. And reports in Sweden are that Zlatan is going back there and has said goodbye to all there friends in Cheshire. And he will leave the club. Smalling and Jones gotta go for me now also.
 
We had some great chances in first half, but the same old problem of this season reoccurred, we don't have a goalscorer.
 
IMHO, Tactical masterclass from Mourinho today. Losing on purpose today to ensure Wenger gets a contract extension for next season.:P
 
I think United won't get further than 5th this season.. even 6th maybe, but it all comes down to winning EL!
 
RedUnited said:
I think United won't get further than 5th this season.. even 6th maybe, but it all comes down to winning EL!
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Funny isn't it?

As a match going fan, even if Utd end up the Europa League again next season and L'pool are in the Champions League, I'd swap that to have had the day out the League Cup Final and silverware. Obviously, the club needs to be in the CL from every standpoint. But you can't beat finals and winning things.

So from that perspective, it's been a good season for Utd. But from the club and Mourinho's perspective, if you now end up with Europa League footie next season it's been an absolute disaster. Which could have a knock-on effect.

Let's say Arsenal win their game in hand and Utd finish 6th. And then don't win the Europa. After he's splashed £150 odd million on top of inheriting the most expensively assembled squad in World footie. I don't see how that can't be spun into anything other than complete failure? It might not be right, but spending that amount of money brings its own massive cost and you HAVE to deliver on it.

Could you imagine this thread alone if Van Gaal was looking at potentially finishing 6th behind Arsenal after that? Heads would be falling off all over the place to be kind.

Which then knocks on to not only attracting the very top players like Greizmann without the CL carrot this summer. Which is where every player worth his salt wants to play regardless of how much £ you throw at them. It also puts a whole new complexion on thongs under Mourinho going forward. Players and fans will buy into his conservative/ pragmatic/ however you want to term it brand of footie when it works and he's getting results. But when it doesn't, and you're finishing as low as 6th with no CL, that soon wears thin and less top flair players will buy into working hard for the team backwards when there's no ultimate reward the end the season.

Really can't be understated just how vital Thursday night and the final are to Utd. Which in itself is as big a gamble as could be to put everything on when 4th had opened right back up for you after L'pool's latest F-up yesterday.
 
Yup, ending lower than 4th and not winning EL is not a good season imo.. even with the **** injuries we had.. :(
 
Don't think injuries have been our main issue this year. Compared to the last two seasons it's been loads better. Our problem for not making 4th is missing a **** load of stone wall chances and keepers having MOTM performances visiting OT.
 
Not getting CL is unthinkable for me this season, that is the bare minimum expectation Jose had, he simply has to deliver it in any way.

If he doesn't then for me there is HUGE pressure on him, he'll probably get another season, but LVG will be scratching his head why and probably rightly so.
 
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Yeah it will a huge dissapiontment if we fail to get CL. But he deserves another season. I know he's spent big last Summer, but least his signings have been a success. I look at this team and it's a right mess from players from 4 different managers. It's no excuse and this squad is still good enough to make top 4. But this squad still needs some work!
 
Let's not forget LVG was in similar situation last year, his entire reputation was hanging on that FA cup win. If he didn't win that he would be deemed a huge failure. Same thing here, if Jose wins EL it's actually a decent first season, but he fails to improve on LVGs last year after spending so much, that's a disaster and there's no other words to describe it. No CL, 5 or 6th in the league, and after all the saber rattling about attractive football and giving youth a chance, he didn't deliver on that either.
 
I'm surprised tbh. I didn't think the youth would get so many mins this season! Footballs not been exilerating but we've still created **** loads of chances, with a squad I'm sure half he wants to get rid of and full of players he would never of signed.
 
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