The Manchester United Thread

zzeezzy said:
Lets be honest here, if we're taking statistics, he should of gone a few seasons ago and therefore wouldn't even of been United top goalscorer. Ok it's hypothetical, but I honestly don't know how he lasted this long.
Click to expand...

And if he hadn't sacrificed himself so much for the team over the years, particularly his prime, and demanded to be the main #9 more often than he was, he may have broke the record years ago? More hypothetical food for thought.

You're entitled to your opinion mate, but I think it's bizarre how you don't see him as a legend of this football club.
 
RhQQ said:
So you wouldn't regard Ronaldo a Real Madrid legend?
Click to expand...

Slightly different because his major success is absurd with Madrid, much more than Rooney's especially in Europe. So with a freak of nature like him I think it's inevitable he's a Madrid legend.

But for me, personally I can say again, there is more to just on the pitch to a legend. For me it is the whole package. But with Ronaldo he's a freak of nature on the pitch and has led Madrid to lots of European success as well as domestic, so almost impossible not to.
 
zzeezzy said:
It's personal opinion, for me the likes of Charlton and Scholes are legends because they were great performers, but what they done off it always respected the club 100% and acted like true professionals.

But for me no one comes close to Charlton, he is just something else, what he came through emotionally and to achieve everything is on another level to what any other player has done on the planet for me. Let alone United.

Statistics are not everything for me when considering legend status, it takes the whole package into account and Rooney falls short for what he has done in the past.
Click to expand...

Point of interest ..... Do you consider Best a club legend?

Think hard on that because you're in danger of sounding stupidly ridiculous if you hold Rooney upto one set of standards and the WAY worst Best for what he did at various stages to Utd, his teammates and supporters to a completely different set of standards.

And I don't want to get into a debate on Best. Just I'm presuming if you don't consider Rooney a legend then you wouldn't Best either.
 
zzeezzy said:
Slightly different because his major success is absurd with Madrid, much more than Rooney's especially in Europe. So with a freak of nature like him I think it's inevitable he's a Madrid legend.

But for me, personally I can say again, there is more to just on the pitch to a legend. For me it is the whole package. But with Ronaldo he's a freak of nature on the pitch and has led Madrid to lots of European success as well as domestic, so almost impossible not to.
Click to expand...

So you do judge it on success/stats, but there's an apparent line. Not much point arguing much further, your opinion is your opinion
 
Wonder if the board would still have been half assing it if he hadnt have called them on it.. (I was with him on that one, the other time was pure money, **** him for that one.. :p )
 
RhQQ said:
And if he hadn't sacrificed himself so much for the team over the years, particularly his prime, and demanded to be the main #9 more often than he was, he may have broke the record years ago? More hypothetical food for thought.

You're entitled to your opinion mate, but I think it's bizarre how you don't see him as a legend of this football club.
Click to expand...

You could easily argue he had to sacrifice himself because we've had better no.9's than him throughout his time here. So if he didn't then he wouldn't even of remained in the team.
 
zzeezzy said:
Lets be honest here, if we're taking statistics, he should of gone a few seasons ago and therefore wouldn't even of been United top goalscorer. Ok it's hypothetical, but I honestly don't know how he lasted this long.
Click to expand...

I think this was the perfect time for him to move actually. When Moyes gave him the contract, most of us said it was brilliant move by Moyes. And it was. Rooney was face of the team back then. Team was built around him, but it didn't work out. It was hard to sell him after that and, tbh, he's a figure who's not easy to replace. Say what you want, but players love him, coaches love him. ****, media loves him. And he's by far Uniteds most marketable player. If Mou sold him in his first year in the club, we would ask a lot of ifs. This way, Rooney gave his influence and he probably help the team a lot of the pitch.

We are spoiled. Some of fans actually didn't want Rooney to score goals for United just because he could beat the Sir Bobbys record. Thats ******* absurd if you ask me.
 
wkdsoul said:
Wonder if the board would still have been half assing it if he hadnt have called them on it.. (I was with him on that one, the other time was pure money, **** him for that one.. :p )
Click to expand...

I honestly thought that was BS the whole 'Oh I'm doing this because the club are not signing the best players', just another one of his ploys for money where he used that as an excuse to the United fans. I never bought it personally.
 
zzeezzy said:
You could easily argue he had to sacrifice himself because we've had better no.9's than him throughout his time here. So if he didn't then he wouldn't even of remained in the team.
Click to expand...

You could argue there was no better #9 in world football in his prime, so I'm not buying that. Rooney's biggest downfall in the whole 'played out of position' saga was he was ridiculously complete, extremely hard working with a tactical/footballing brain, SAF knew it and used it as a manager's well within his rights to if it helps the team.
 
Vanjagl said:
I think this was the perfect time for him to move actually.
Click to expand...

Perfect time for him yes, the club, not really. I remember many United fans wanted him gone during the latter Fergie years. Then consequently, more and more each year since Fergie retired.

In regard to him being loved, I think for a period of time a lot did, then after his whole antics with holding the club for ransom more than once, a lot of fans never saw him the same way.

If Fergie had of stayed on any longer I think he would of gone a few seasons ago. He had about had enough of his antics, that's the impression I got anyway.
 
Vanjagl said:
I think this was the perfect time for him to move actually. When Moyes gave him the contract, most of us said it was brilliant move by Moyes. And it was. Rooney was face of the team back then. Team was built around him, but it didn't work out. It was hard to sell him after that and, tbh, he's a figure who's not easy to replace. Say what you want, but players love him, coaches love him. ****, media loves him. And he's by far Uniteds most marketable player. If Mou sold him in his first year in the club, we would ask a lot of ifs. This way, Rooney gave his influence and he probably help the team a lot of the pitch.

We are spoiled. Some of fans actually didn't want Rooney to score goals for United just because he could beat the Sir Bobbys record. Thats ******* absurd if you ask me.
Click to expand...

Mourinho phased him out brilliantly. Definitely the time for him to move on, just a tad saddening to see that chapter closed. Maybe that's just me.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Point of interest ..... Do you consider Best a club legend?

Think hard on that because you're in danger of sounding stupidly ridiculous if you hold Rooney upto one set of standards and the WAY worst Best for what he did at various stages to Utd, his teammates and supporters to a completely different set of standards.

And I don't want to get into a debate on Best. Just I'm presuming if you don't consider Rooney a legend then you wouldn't Best either.
Click to expand...

Best is another one in the 'great tier' for me, not a 'legend'. A lot of people would consider him a legend the same way they consider Rooney a legend. Because of what he did on the pitch, but like I explained with Rooney, there is more to a legend than simply just that for me.
 
Anthony said:
Is it because he is English I wonder? .....
Click to expand...

Conversely, I wonder with a lot of Utd dicks currently doing a history re-write all over social media to decry Rooney, if the fact that he's from Croxteth plays a big part in their B/S?
 
Great to see the lads back in training today. Got the butterflies and excitement building for the tour and new season. Good to see Mourinho laughing and joking with the MUTV crew giving May and Paddy some stick. Looks in good spirits.
 
Theatre of dreams said:
Great to see the lads back in training today. Got the butterflies and excitement building for the tour and new season. Good to see Mourinho laughing and joking with the MUTV crew giving May and Paddy some stick. Looks in good spirits.
Click to expand...

It is...
Look to the future and enjoy the entertainment.
 
Really quite sad to see Rooney go, even if his form has dropped off a bit. He joined United just when I began following them closely and have really enjoyed watching him smash in all his goals and win everything he could with the club. Sad to see the final link with the team that I first really paid attention to. Definitely a United legend to me and hopefully he can help us by scoring a few against the rest of the top 6 for everton
 
Have my tickets for the Sampdoria friendly in the Aviva. Always a good night out in Dublin.
Park up at Stephens Green and stop in Every bar on the walk down :D

Edit: And collect the car in the morning :O
 
wow for all the stuff you have posted over the years zz you saying roo and best are legends just takes the **** to another lvl wow just wow
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

FMBase

Beta

Resources

Back
Top