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The sooner Mourinho tells the delusional gobshite to F-off and he'll never be his mate the better for everyone. Worst excuse for a 'journalist' EVER!

Duncan Castles

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Andre Marriner presumably couldn't see that Pogba clearly took a ball that was there for him to play before making contact with a Hector Bellerin who'd put himself out of position. Red card removes Manchester United's best player from the Manchester derby. #ARSMUN

7:08 pm · 2 Dec 2017
 
OK, De Gea played a blinder, but he didn't press and make Arsenal's backline look like they were playing their first game in pre-season, he didn't throw Koscielny around like a little rag doll before assisting Lingard, he didn't torture Arsenal's defence with silky interplay & movement, he didn't make Ramsey & Xhaka look like 14 year olds playing against an 18 year old(s), and most importantly, he didn't score the 3 goals away to the Emirates.

Yes De Gea played his bit, but we have to remember Goalkeepers ARE part of the team. He is actually paid to save. It's like saying "Pfft Messi won another 3 points for Barca" - well, he is the best in the world, of course he's going to have a big say in Barca's victories quite regularly, just like De Gea, the best in the world in his position, is going to have in ours. Our victories shouldn't be belittled just because a world class player in our team has a great individual performance, that's what he's there for, that's what we stuck by him through the rocky early year(s) for.

Feeling very proud about how De Gea has developed, and wouldn't swap him for any man between the posts.
 
RhQQ said:
OK, De Gea played a blinder, but he didn't press and make Arsenal's backline look like they were playing their first game in pre-season, he didn't throw Koscielny around like a little rag doll before assisting Lingard, he didn't torture Arsenal's defence with silky interplay & movement, he didn't make Ramsey & Xhaka look like 14 year olds playing against an 18 year old(s), and most importantly, he didn't score the 3 goals away to the Emirates.

Yes De Gea played his bit, but we have to remember Goalkeepers ARE part of the team. He is actually paid to save. It's like saying "Pfft Messi won another 3 points for Barca" - well, he is the best in the world, of course he's going to have a big say in Barca's victories quite regularly, just like De Gea, the best in the world in his position, is going to have in ours. Our victories shouldn't be belittled just because a world class player in our team has a great individual performance, that's what he's there for, that's what we stuck by him through the rocky early year(s) for.

Feeling very proud about how De Gea has developed, and wouldn't swap him for any man between the posts.
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Ducker was saying on Sunday Supp this morning how happy he is. And that last year he was allowed to leave by the club and Mourinho. But he decide to stay and is happy now with the direction the club is going. After a trophy successfull season, and the strides under Mourinho.

In other news just watching the u23s CL game versus Celtic. Gribbin and Wilson were both fantastic. Easily there best games in a Utd shirt for me. Looks like the penny has finally dropped with Gribbin upstairs. And Wilson clearly over his major injury issues, in the scoring form of his career atm. Such a natural finisher with great link up play.

Really hope Mitchell makes it here as his form bar one game has improved on last season. Kehinde looking like a very good CM in the making, very Essien like. Good to see Tuanzebe given a game also.
 
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Another thing people forget is we took the initiative at the start of the game and went 2-0 up. It was only then that Arsenal had to throw everything at it.
 
mersk said:
Technically Lukaku shouldn't have been on the pitch; he should've had a red in the last match...

In any case, Koscielny's challenge was never a red, for three reasons: a) It was basically at the half-way line, so it was extremely far from goal, b) the ball was headed more towards the corner than the goal, so it wouldn't have been a straight run anyway, and c) Bellerin would've caught up easily, so it wasn't a clear goalscoring opportunity.

Bonus reason d) the ref took Lukaku's current form into consideration when making the decision... :D
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Yeah/...Bellerin got into a good position as kos bought him some time by holding lukaku back initially before fouling him
 
Reports saying pogba could be ban extended for clapping walking of the pitch. If they can prove he was sarcastically clapping at the ref. Surely can’t prove that!
 
Theatre of dreams said:
Reports saying pogba could be ban extended for clapping walking of the pitch. If they can prove he was sarcastically clapping at the ref. Surely can’t prove that!
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Obviously you can't prove that, but I seriously doubt anyone will believe he was clapping out of shear joy, for being sent off. If the extension of the ban is actually in discussion, he will get it no doubt.

You receive a (deserved) red card in an important game, of course you will be ******. The FA should quit being such crybabies and hand out bans for every stupid reason they can think of.
 
Theatre of dreams said:
Reports saying pogba could be ban extended for clapping walking of the pitch. If they can prove he was sarcastically clapping at the ref. Surely can’t prove that!
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Cant prove it but will still give it if they want to. Although he could argue its aimed at Koscielney for his reaction, as Jose pointed out.
 
I've watched that Pogba foul dozens of times and I honestly think it's a harsh red card. By the lawbook maybe but still harsh.

At the pace he is travelling and the ball slightly deflects off Bellerin at the last moment, Pogba is only following through and there is not much he could of done at that speed, he was fully comitted.

By the lawbook yes, but in my view he was playing the ball and it's harsh. 3 match ban should be the absolute maximum, would be an absolute joke if gets more. Shouldn't even be a ban if you ask me.
 
Jose refuses to say whether @ManUtd have appealed against Pogba red card. 'He is available tomorrow.'

Sergio Romero in goal for @ManUtd tomorrow

Jose says @Zlatan not available for tomorrow but should be after that

Jose says @carras16 won't play but "I could surprise" like Wenger and Lacazette

Jose: "Zlatan is not injured. He needs to work very hard on the muscular area that supports the knee that had the problem. When that hard work comes, so does fatigue." #MUFC

Jose Mourinho tells #MUTV Nemanja Matic is unavailable for #MUFC v CSKA Moscow but @PaulPogba will play.

How easy to focus on CSKA with derby around the corner? "Easy, easy. We are used to it. It's just the next match, we don't think about the next, next. Its just about tomorrow." #mufc

Jose Mourinho on Lindelof: 'He's like the team... When the team plays well, he plays well' #MUFC

Jose, on Luke Shaw: He's working to have an opportunity and sooner or later, the opportunity will arrive. He's selected for tomorrow, yes, for sure. To start or to be on the bench, I cannot answer." #MUFC
 
Any changes to the starting line-up, Jose?


"I'd have to think. I'm going to make a few but not too many. We haven't qualified yet, so I need to keep a certain balance in the team." #MUFC

City taking strong squad to Ukraine. Only Silva and De Bruyne (suspended) missing. @PhilFoden travels

.@VLindelof: "I'm always happy to help the team in any way I can. I'm very pleased to be able to help on the pitch and to get some good results." #MUFC

Victor Lindelof on *that* tackle vs
Brighton being a turning point: "I don't know I felt good during the game, just a tackle. Like I said good tackle." #mufc


Victor Lindelof: "@ManUtd is one of biggest clubs in the world. More eyes watching you."

"The whole team tries to help each other. Everyone's been really good since I arrived and they've helped me in a lot of ways," says Victor. #MUFC

Lindelof says Utd not spoken about team selection @ManCity yet

Lindelof on being left out of team: "Always when you come to a new club, you have to learn. I learn every day. The manager has been very good for me."


'DE GEA IS THIRD BEST!'
Asked if he had ever worked with a better goalkeeper than David De Gea, the boss mischievously replied: "Yes, Romero. Because he plays tomorrow and my goalkeeper is always the best goalkeeper in the world. So now David is the third best. Romero is number one and Joel [Pereira] number two, and David is the third best."
 
Sensible decision from Utd to not appeal the red.

No way that would that of been overturned and the risk would have been extending it. Looked bad enough in live action. Looks worse on the slo-mo.

Not sure how anyone can try justify dangerous play like that to an opponent? Just accept it was a boneheaded move from an experienced player who should know better in a position of absolutely no danger on the pitch and move on.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Sensible decision from Utd to not appeal the red.

No way that would that of been overturned and the risk would have been extending it. Looked bad enough in live action. Looks worse on the slo-mo.

Not sure how anyone can try justify dangerous play like that to an opponent? Just accept it was a boneheaded move from an experienced player who should know better in a position of absolutely no danger on the pitch and move on.
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Which is why you don't judge anything on slo-mo. It was a mistimed challenge that was reckless. That's it. Red card and on you go
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Sensible decision from Utd to not appeal the red.

No way that would that of been overturned and the risk would have been extending it. Looked bad enough in live action. Looks worse on the slo-mo.

Not sure how anyone can try justify dangerous play like that to an opponent? Just accept it was a boneheaded move from an experienced player who should know better in a position of absolutely no danger on the pitch and move on.
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He went for the ball, the timing and deviation the ball took off Bellerin, at that timing and speed his foot couldn’t of gone anywhere else. It was just an unfortunate incident and unlucky in Pogbas case.

Honestly ive seen it so many times and I don’t understand what they expected Pogba to do... not even go for a 50/50 ball?

Slow mo makes everything look worse and it isn’t a realistic portrayal of live real speed action. Still when I watch it on slow speed I just think the same.
 
They will have players sliding around on grass skis in a few years.
Raising a foot off the ground will result in an instant red card.
 
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