The Manchester United Thread

[Vanjagl]

Jose was never in for AWB. Also, Maguire IS an OGS signing through and through. Jose had him on his transfer list but he wasn't even first choice. He preferred Boateng and Dier ahead of him

Maguire was milimeters close to join under Jose, if United board didnt sancion it. AWB was scouted under Jose and most of the progress have been made before Ole.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Are you all comparing L’pool’s spending to Utd's?

This should get interesting when @dilakh2 responds.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Jose was never in for AWB. Also, Maguire IS an OGS signing through and through. Jose had him on his transfer list but he wasn't even first choice. He preferred Boateng and Dier ahead of him

Jesus. Eric Dier. He makes Maguire look top drawer. Thats how utter wank he is.

WTF was Mourinho thinking there?

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

I think we'll see new players against Everton.

Yeah Ole said a few return to training on Monday but won’t be ready to feature in the next friendly

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Samuel Luckhurst
@samuelluckhurst
Solskjaer on Pogba: 'The talks are ongoing between Paul's representatives and our representatives. All the dialogue I've had with Paul personally is he's looking forward to the season.' #mufc

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

United Journal
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Jul 24, 2021
— Solskjaer on Elanga:

"It would be easy to say the boy should go on loan but he's doing so well. He's electric, he's got pace, skill and he's got the courage and bravery of a Manchester United player." #mufc #mujournal

United Journal
@theutdjournal
— Solskjaer:

"Today he created chances for others and himself. I wouldn't be surprised if he's going to be staying here. It depends, of course. It's important for him to develop and get game time but he's one that we've not really decided." #mufc #mujournal

 

[Vanjagl]

Are you all comparing L’pool’s spending to Utd's?

This should get interesting when @dilakh2 responds.

Try to read next time.
Response was to Klopp being a 'builder from nothing" when in fact he's spending almost 100m per season. Did United spent more in that period? Probably.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Try to read next time.
Response was to Klopp being a 'builder from nothing" when in fact he's spending almost 100m per season. Did United spent more in that period? Probably.

I would if you'd make a salient point with any semblance of context.

But I’ll just watch this one when he answers.

 

[Vanjagl]

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[Vanjagl]

Yeah Ole said a few return to training on Monday but won’t be ready to feature in the next friendly

I was thinking about Sancho. How far is Martial from returning, do you happen to know?

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

I honestly think you have issues with accepting reality. Though deep down I hope for your good that you're just a s*it stirrer.

Mate, you answered him on a point about L’pool being in NO position to write-off an £80 million flop, or n this case just add to it by signing more to cover his deficiencies, by inferring them adding another CH was somehow one and the same. To then try to average out a total spend on a per-season basis. Ignoring whats been recouped during that time and the LEVELS of difference in what he inherited as to what Solksjaer inherited/ had to spend. Before you even get onto the differences in wage budgets in play.

But hey, you’re the rationale one here right?

Man this day gets better and better.

 

[Legend Incredible]

Jesus. Eric Dier. He makes Maguire look top drawer. Thats how utter wank he is.

WTF was Mourinho thinking there?

Yeah, I'm pretty pleased it was blocked. As incompetent as Woodward is, he got that one right. Considering spurs were asking for £60 million too, that would've been a disaster

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

I was thinking about Sancho. How far is Martial from returning, do you happen to know?

Martial and VDB return to full training Monday mate.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Yeah, I'm pretty pleased it was blocked. As incompetent as Woodward is, he got that one right. Considering spurs were asking for £60 million too, that would've been a disaster

I think it was actually 60 going up to 68

 

[dilakh2]

Liverpool is stil buying centrebacks, right? Yeah, Klopp built Liverpool from ground up, he has spent 500.000.000 on players ih how many years? 6? Thats almost 100m per season.

With United there's been 3 managers who were all different in their approach and needed different players for their tactic to work. Wan Bissaka and Maguire weren't Oles signings. There were scouted under Mourinho and were close to signing but for board to sanction due to Mou having a meltdown.

Will Ole manage to step up remains uncertain, but first time in long time United have a vision moving forward. If Ole cant do it, its essential to find a manager in similar mould but better.

Bruh we are literally operating as a sell to buy club thats how much we have to live within our means (having to sell off fringe players first before buying). Konate was someone earmarked because low and behold we had the mother of all injury crises and one CB is made out of crisps and two are returning from career defining injuries. I'm sorry we didn't spend 75million on Sancho (who Klopp admired and probably wanted) we will have to make due with Jota who cost us 5mill upfront and even then we binned off hoever (however you spell his name) who played 2 cups games for 10 million onto wolves. My point was that certain clubs cant afford to get it wrong. You are the richest club in the world. This whole transition **** is laughable as you can outspend the whole league if you wanted to and still get it wrong and it wouldn't be a problem. Chelsea have been in crisis for a decade it seems, that doesn't stop them from winning the biggest trophies in club football.

 

[Vanjagl]

Mate, you answered him on a point about L’pool being in NO position to write-off an £80 million flop, or n this case just add to it by signing more to cover his deficiencies, by inferring them adding another CH was somehow one and the same. To then try average out a total spend on a pre-season basis. Ignoring whats been recouped during that time and the LEVELS of difference in what he inherited as to what Solksjaer inherited/ had to spend. Before you even get onto the differences in wage budgets in play.

But hey, you’re the rationale one here right?

Man this day gets better and better.

I don't know who is 80m flop you're talking about? I can quess but no one mention any flops. And the fact you find him a flop is amusing to say the least.

United are searching for a partner for its 80m CB, just like Liverpool are. Didnt they splash something like 30m on a CB recently? How many different CBs did Klopp have/still has? He was just more sensible with free transfers (Matip) and loans (Kabak?) until he signed Kounate.

Selling players is irrelevant here, spending 500m in 5-6 seasons is mental for any manager.

You keep injecting "but Solskjaer had this and that", irrelevant to Klopp's spending. He aint builder from nothing. Like any other top manager he'll spend whatever is needed.

I'm trying to find reliable source (dunno how Liverpool echo is) but according to them last year Lpools wage bill was 2nd only to Cities. And with the amount of success Lpool had, theyre still underpaying their biggest stars.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Was there away fans at Loftus Road today?

I'm hearing from someone who has me writing off being at Norwich opening day that everything trending toward 75% capacity and no away fans until at least October and proof of being double jabbed to go the game. (Presuming they've offered every age bracket the option to be vaccinated by then.).

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Full squad should be available for Everton match

 

[Vanjagl]

Bruh we are literally operating as a sell to buy club thats how much we have to live within our means (having to sell off fringe players first before buying). Konate was someone earmarked because low and behold we had the mother of all injury crises and one CB is made out of crisps and two are returning from career defining injuries. I'm sorry we didn't spend 75million on Sancho (who Klopp admired and probably wanted) we will have to make due with Jota who cost us 5mill upfront and even then we binned off hoever (however you spell his name) who played 2 cups games for 10 million onto wolves. My point was that certain clubs cant afford to get it wrong. You are the richest club in the world. This whole transition **** is laughable as you can outspend the whole league if you wanted to and still get it wrong and it wouldn't be a problem. Chelsea have been in crisis for a decade it seems, that doesn't stop them from winning the biggest trophies in club football.

I'm sorry but selling clubs do not sign 3 players for combined of 210m. Its like saying Unites are selling club cuz they sold Ronaldo to RM. Liverpool might not have financial pull as United, but they are still spending similary per season. Outside of that freakish ripping Barca off, your highest sold player was 30m for Benteke if I'm not mistaken.
Liverpool are miles ahead of United in getting rid of players they dont want nor need, they are not even on the same planet in that category.

You do have a point when you say that United can fix their mistakes more easily than Liverpool due to money they have, but its not like Liverpool havent been recycling players til they found the right one. Thats the point I was making about Liverpool still searching for a partner for van Dijk.

 

[Vanjagl]

Was their away fans at Loftus Road today?

I'm hearing from someone who has me writing off being at Norwich opening day that everything trending toward 75% capacity and no away fans until at least October and proof of being double jabbed to go the game. (Presuming they've offered every age bracket the option to be vaccinated by then.).

Yeah, there were.