The Manchester United Thread

I didn't expect Utd to win. Hoped the derby factor might keep it tight. But that was all it was. Not too arsed about that from our POV as it changes nothing being as the leagues in our own hands regardless of what City do.

What I didn't expect was such a gutless capitulation in the derby either. Yers were lucky to get out only conceding 4.

The whole team is spineless. Maguire is just the worst example of that. (And the jarg version of Nathanial Clyne isn't much better.). But the manager shouldn't escape heavy criticism either.

If the PE Teacher rightly got slammed when we volleyed you all over for 5 with calls for his head there and then after such a disgrace, Ragnick shouldn't be escaping similar after that humongous embarrassment.
 
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Scouseinthehouse said:
If the PE Teacher rightly got slammed when we volleyed you all over for 5 with calls for his head there and then after such a disgrace, Ragnick shouldn't be escaping similar after that humongous embarrassment.
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Yup, He absolutely shouldn’t. His subs were deplorable today. Felt we went down to 10 men after taking Pogba and Elanga.
Pep made some tweaks in the 2nd half by having both Grealish and Mahrez drop into midfield to give city the number advantage (in the first half, Bruno dropped constantly from the f9 position giving us that 4v3 advantage in midfield). He not only didn’t respond to those changes, but he also took off one midfield body for a forward. It was a bloodbath afterwards
 
Legend Incredible said:
Yup, He absolutely shouldn’t. His subs were deplorable today. Felt we went down to 10 men after taking Pogba and Elanga.
Pep made some tweaks in the 2nd half by having both Grealish and Mahrez drop into midfield to give city the number advantage (in the first half, Bruno dropped constantly from the f9 position giving us that 4v3 advantage in midfield). He not only didn’t respond to those changes, but he also took off one midfield body for a forward. It was a bloodbath afterwards
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I think I'd be even more worried that he's suggesting Cavani and Ronaldo made themselves unavailable after he thought they'd be available. Not for the first time the past few months there's been a complete disconnect between him and the players.

How he is expected to go forward and sort this carnage out if the players aren't on board (and that would doubtless roll over into his choice to replace him) is anyone guess? 🤷‍♂️

The utter madness of all is Arsenal's games in hand are Chelsea, L'pool and the NLD. So as mired in the mud as Utd continue to be, they are still well in this farce for 4th.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
I think I'd be even more worried that he's suggesting Cavani and Ronaldo made themselves unavailable after he thought they'd be available. Not for the first time the past few months there's been a complete disconnect between him and the players.

How he is expected to go forward and sort this carnage out if the players aren't on board (and that would doubtless roll over into his choice to replace him) is anyone guess? 🤷‍♂️
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I believe Ronaldo does have his own exclusive medical staff so I don’t believe he’d make up some excuse last minute to avoid games. It also doesn’t fit his personality. That plus he did have complaints of his hip flexor before the Middlesbrough game last month yet he still played 120 mins.
Cavani, on the other hand, is a lost cause at this point. Getting paid 200k a week to chill at home. Ofc, it’s not like we bent over backwards to give him a new bumper deal after he made it clear he wanted to leave last season.
The players have been conditioned by the culture of unaccountability for the last 3 years. We need a serious cultural reset which goes beyond just buying new players.
 
#mufc have started meeting candidates for the permanent managerial role. United are aiming to make the decision in the next few weeks to have them involved in next season's squad construction. Ralf Rangnick has been involved #mulive [@David_Ornstein]
 
Theatre of Dreams83 said:
#mufc have started meeting candidates for the permanent managerial role. United are aiming to make the decision in the next few weeks to have them involved in next season's squad construction. Ralf Rangnick has been involved #mulive [@David_Ornstein]
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more of this nonsense? How do you think it would go meeting up with managers that are seemingly settled at their respective clubs (unless we’re trying to tap free agents)
 
Legend Incredible said:
more of this nonsense? How do you think it would go meeting up with managers that are seemingly settled at their respective clubs (unless we’re trying to tap free agents)
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Most likely how most of these things are done all the time via agents or inters. When clubs are after a new manager or new player. It’s happened forever even though it’s supposed to be “tapping up” and shouldn’t happen.
 
Theatre of Dreams83 said:
#mufc have started meeting candidates for the permanent managerial role. United are aiming to make the decision in the next few weeks to have them involved in next season's squad construction. Ralf Rangnick has been involved #mulive [@David_Ornstein]
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Without the top 4, I shudder to think what the wage bill will be.

The squad needs a complete overhaul from back-to-front. And the clubs pulling power of the '90's/ '00's for the very top players has long since left the building. So the only hope there is to continue more of the same that has Utd in the current World of **** they are constantly mired in and well overpay. Sancho's ridiculous salary being the recent glaring example.

The Champions League this season is the most imperative thing of all while clickbait dicks are talking about next season's potential manager.
 
Theatre of Dreams83 said:
Most likely how most of these things are done all the time via agents or inters. When clubs are after a new manager or new player. It’s happened forever even though it’s supposed to be “tapping up” and shouldn’t happen.
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Except the names that are being talked about are managing top level clubs challenging for top honors mid season. This isn’t a Real Madrid-Ancelotti situation where RM had sway to the Italian to abandon a struggling Everton.
What do you expect? That one of Pochettino or Erik Ten Hag accepts a zoom invite from John Murtough during 1st team training?
 
Legend Incredible said:
Except the names that are being talked about are managing top level clubs challenging for top honors mid season. This isn’t a Real Madrid-Ancelotti situation where RM had sway to the Italian to abandon a struggling Everton.
What do you expect? That one of Pochettino or Erik Ten Hag accepts a zoom invite from John Murtough during 1st team training?
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Obviously not lol. That doesn’t mean talks haven’t happened in some way.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Without the top 4, I shudder to think what the wage bill will be.

….Sancho's ridiculous salary being the recent glaring example.

The Champions League this season is the most imperative thing of all while clickbait dicks are talking about next season's potential manager.
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We gave Sancho a whopping 300k a week while qualifying for the UCL back to back so I don’t think CL has as much influence as you think in terms of united paying over the odds. That’s not to say I don’t think Sancho will be a top bracket player in the future but in current reality, we’re paying 300k a week to a 21 year old player even with UCL football.

I do agree we need need more control of the wage structure which starts by clearing deadwood and not offering Pogba £400k a week
 
While the men stank up the place yesterday lol. The womens won 4-0 to move up to third and the final CL spot. Also took us 1 point behind Chelsea in second.
 
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