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Tactic tweaking.
Hello everyone,
attached you will find my tactic for Slavia Prague. I have restarted the game like 6 times already and tested different strategies (some of these from this forum). This strategy I made myself got me third place in two seasons (best results so far) few points behind the first place (but I got unhappy in third one and restarted). But this season I'm fifth... I'm looking for a way to tweak this strategy.
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Team: Slavia Prague
Season: First, in the winter break
You will find lot's of information attached, including my first 11 and few interesting backup players. If you need any more information, let me know.
I should add I play like this both home and away, I like universal strategies...
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Thanks a lot for any advices, I don't think my team is playing to their potential and I would really love to finish at 3rd place at the end of season (UEFA Cup qualification).
Hello everyone,
attached you will find my tactic for Slavia Prague. I have restarted the game like 6 times already and tested different strategies (some of these from this forum). This strategy I made myself got me third place in two seasons (best results so far) few points behind the first place (but I got unhappy in third one and restarted). But this season I'm fifth... I'm looking for a way to tweak this strategy.
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Team: Slavia Prague
Season: First, in the winter break
You will find lot's of information attached, including my first 11 and few interesting backup players. If you need any more information, let me know.
I should add I play like this both home and away, I like universal strategies...
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Thanks a lot for any advices, I don't think my team is playing to their potential and I would really love to finish at 3rd place at the end of season (UEFA Cup qualification).
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cant play against quick teams
hi, first post here. needing help playing against quick teams.
I am in my second season and i play as man utd which SHOULD be free of any major problems, my team tends to hammer lower teams every game by 3,4,5 goals. the only real problem which is costing me trophies is the fact my team can't play against quick teams who have lots of pace and pass the ball quickly and particularly through the middle.
I play teams such as arsenal and man city and lose by 4 or 5-0 every time because they just pass it through the middle of my defence and constantly get clear of my backline by just running past them.
I play a flat 4-4-2 formation with 2 centre mids and 2 wingers. my 2 strikers up front are set as complete forwards.
my first team is this:
GK: van der Sar
RB: Rafael (defend)
CB: Kjaer (defend)
CB: Vidic (defend)
LB: Fabio (defend)
RW: Nani (support)
CM: Fletcher (support/box to box)
CM: Carrick (support)
LW: Mata (attack)
ST: van Nistelrooy (support)
ST: Dzeko (attack)
my best substitute players are, wes brown, ferdinand, o'shea, jonny evans, van bommel, anderson, valencia and berbatov.
My usual tactics are a quite high defensive line, with lots of pressing and hard tackling. my natural instincts when i go behind are to make the fullbacks 'support', which just makes everything worse and i concede even more.
I play quite a slow tempo with lots of creative freedom to try and get the best out of my creative players, this works a treat against the lower/slower teams but is ineffectual against quick sides. I also try to play slightly narrow vs quick sides to try and limit the space in the middle but it seems to have no effect. My general strategies are fluid and attacking. I play a balanced or direct passing game, which doesnt seem to work because i find myself losing possession and only getting around 30-40% vs quick passing sides. I also dont use the offside trap or counter attack options (apart from offside trap and high line against lower teams).
The main killer formations that my team can't play against is with a 5 or narrow midfield.
Sorry if ive missed any important info out, i just have to rely on my memory as i play in a network game and cant review my tactics at the moment.
These bad performances vs quick teams are costing me pretty bad, and Evra and Rooney have already left the club because they were fed up with me.
Thanks for any help in advance.
hi, first post here. needing help playing against quick teams.
I am in my second season and i play as man utd which SHOULD be free of any major problems, my team tends to hammer lower teams every game by 3,4,5 goals. the only real problem which is costing me trophies is the fact my team can't play against quick teams who have lots of pace and pass the ball quickly and particularly through the middle.
I play teams such as arsenal and man city and lose by 4 or 5-0 every time because they just pass it through the middle of my defence and constantly get clear of my backline by just running past them.
I play a flat 4-4-2 formation with 2 centre mids and 2 wingers. my 2 strikers up front are set as complete forwards.
my first team is this:
GK: van der Sar
RB: Rafael (defend)
CB: Kjaer (defend)
CB: Vidic (defend)
LB: Fabio (defend)
RW: Nani (support)
CM: Fletcher (support/box to box)
CM: Carrick (support)
LW: Mata (attack)
ST: van Nistelrooy (support)
ST: Dzeko (attack)
my best substitute players are, wes brown, ferdinand, o'shea, jonny evans, van bommel, anderson, valencia and berbatov.
My usual tactics are a quite high defensive line, with lots of pressing and hard tackling. my natural instincts when i go behind are to make the fullbacks 'support', which just makes everything worse and i concede even more.
I play quite a slow tempo with lots of creative freedom to try and get the best out of my creative players, this works a treat against the lower/slower teams but is ineffectual against quick sides. I also try to play slightly narrow vs quick sides to try and limit the space in the middle but it seems to have no effect. My general strategies are fluid and attacking. I play a balanced or direct passing game, which doesnt seem to work because i find myself losing possession and only getting around 30-40% vs quick passing sides. I also dont use the offside trap or counter attack options (apart from offside trap and high line against lower teams).
The main killer formations that my team can't play against is with a 5 or narrow midfield.
Sorry if ive missed any important info out, i just have to rely on my memory as i play in a network game and cant review my tactics at the moment.
These bad performances vs quick teams are costing me pretty bad, and Evra and Rooney have already left the club because they were fed up with me.
Thanks for any help in advance.
Actually thank you for writing this down, I think it perfectly describes what I have major problems with (similar strategy as you too). Each time I meet with teams playing with only one striker (eg. 4-2-3-1) it's a horror. And quick playing teams, same like you. That's why I usually lose all matches with top teams.
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Vidic and Kjaer are slow defenders(maybe you trained them for quickness?) and you play with high defensive line and more pressing so it is natural that you will concede a lot of goals versus fast and techically gifted attackers. The fluid scheme without defensive midfielder(Barcelona as typical fluid team has Javier Mascherano and Sergio Busquets) also contributes for conceiding a lot of goals.That means that flat 4-4-2 is not suitable for fluid scheme, infact you should play rigid with free role, increased creativity and special movements(cut inside depending on their strong foot - Nani scored vs Bursaspor by cutting inside, move in channels as Giggs/Bale style) for your wingers(as Sir Alex irl) - your wingers and the support forward are the link between midfield and attack.
When playing vs team with balanced/fluid scheme(those are generally the 5-midfielders teams you mentioned) use Ball Winning midfielder or Anchorman if they play with creative AMC(tight mark him) or try playing even with 2 defensive midfields versus Barca formation - you shouldn't allow their creative players to breathe. Also zonal marking(if your defenders are good in teamwork) is better versus those teams(combined with tight marking players and normal/deeper def line) since basically man-marking doesn't help versus players like Messi, Arshavin etc. If you watched last season Champ league Inter versus Barca - well, Mourinho showed to the world how to stop Messi - always tight marked, closed down always by 2 even 3 players and always hard tackling. That's what you should do versus Arsenal - get strong organized defense and take advantage from their defensive weakness.
Van Nistelrooy is not a support striker, he is a consumer-type-forward, ****, that guy was deadly when spearheading Mat Utd attacks years ago. Use Berbatov as deep-lying support forward and Dzeko as complete forward attack maybe.
Well, that's just my opinion, hope it helps you (H)
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team - chelsea
season - 2010/11
i have played every football manager game since the 2008 edition, but to be honest i'm not great at setting up tactics. in this save, i had a bad start to the season, but finally managed to crawl back up into the champions league qualification spots, and am currently fourth, level with liverpool, three points behind both first-placed manchester city and arsenal in second.
for whatever reason, my players get many shots per games, but more than half are off-target. i also pick up tons of bookings despite the fact that i always tell my players to "stay on feet". finally, my defense is porous, and i almost never keep clean sheets.
i would love to play fast-paced attacking football, sorta like barca does, and i know i have a squad that is capable of fireworks. i have taken out almost all the oldies, and the young'uns are all highly-skilled players. but no matter what i do, they don't perform half as well as they'd be expected to.
in case you're wondering why drogba, anelka or benayoun aren't in the team, and why ashley cole and mikel are leaving on future transfers, it's 'cause my early-season troubles led to major disillusionment, and i botched a team talk early on, leading to mass transfer request madness lol. yeah, i am a bit of a noob, sorry
finally, can you suggest a good attacking midfielder who'll come cheap? i need someone who can either play as my primary playmaker or as a backup to lampard.
if someone can suggest changes to my tactics or even tweak'em for me, that'll be awesome.
thanks in advance for your help
hey all,
i posted the above message yesterday, but i guess o-one saw it 'cause of it's position at the tail end of page two...i'm just re-posting so i can get a reply, sorry if it annoys anyone
I could use some help i can find a good tactic to my team. I play with a team that is modified by some people on fmdanmark.
My team: AG København
Season: 2013-2014 september
Screenshots:
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Jonas Lössl is Goalkeeper defend
Anthony Vanden Borre is Wing back support
Thobias Skovgaard is Wing back support
Tomislav Barbaric is Central defender defend
Erik Sviatchenko is Central defender defend
Fernando Gago is Anchor man defend
Steven Defour is Box-to-box midfielder support
Charles Dissels is Inside forward attack
Simon Poulsen is Winger support
Mads Hvilsom is Targetman support/attack
Bogdan Stancu is Poacher attack
My team: AG København
Season: 2013-2014 september
Screenshots:
View attachment 114400
View attachment 114401
Jonas Lössl is Goalkeeper defend
Anthony Vanden Borre is Wing back support
Thobias Skovgaard is Wing back support
Tomislav Barbaric is Central defender defend
Erik Sviatchenko is Central defender defend
Fernando Gago is Anchor man defend
Steven Defour is Box-to-box midfielder support
Charles Dissels is Inside forward attack
Simon Poulsen is Winger support
Mads Hvilsom is Targetman support/attack
Bogdan Stancu is Poacher attack
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A first glance at the formation suggests that team playing more cautious and defensive against you will have no problem holding possession in the center of the pitch and in the MR/L position. I would probably start with using 2 MCs instead and take it from there. Other than that, it hard to say what to tweak as I don't know what is and what is not working in your tactic.
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team - chelsea
season - 2010/11
i have played every football manager game since the 2008 edition, but to be honest i'm not great at setting up tactics. in this save, i had a bad start to the season, but finally managed to crawl back up into the champions league qualification spots, and am currently fourth, level with liverpool, three points behind both first-placed manchester city and arsenal in second.
for whatever reason, my players get many shots per games, but more than half are off-target. i also pick up tons of bookings despite the fact that i always tell my players to "stay on feet". finally, my defense is porous, and i almost never keep clean sheets.
i would love to play fast-paced attacking football, sorta like barca does, and i know i have a squad that is capable of fireworks. i have taken out almost all the oldies, and the young'uns are all highly-skilled players. but no matter what i do, they don't perform half as well as they'd be expected to.
in case you're wondering why drogba, anelka or benayoun aren't in the team, and why ashley cole and mikel are leaving on future transfers, it's 'cause my early-season troubles led to major disillusionment, and i botched a team talk early on, leading to mass transfer request madness lol. yeah, i am a bit of a noob, sorry
finally, can you suggest a good attacking midfielder who'll come cheap? i need someone who can either play as my primary playmaker or as a backup to lampard.
if someone can suggest changes to my tactics or even tweak'em for me, that'll be awesome.
thanks in advance for your help
I would try to slow down the tempo( you can still play a quick onetouch football9 and restrict the runs with ball and fwruns.
Perhaps having one midfielder that moves into channels and have fwruns, one that holds on to the ball and one that hits t.balls often, all with shorter passing.
A high defensive line with slow players like Vidic is a complete and utter no-no. Play a normal defensive line and also, ask your players to drop deeper during the game through touchline instructions.
A flat back 4 is fine but a flat midfield is not the best idea against strong teams. Since you're playing as Man Utd and have Dzeko, consider switching to a 4-3-3 wingers.
Your team could shape up like this then:
------------------------------VdS------------------------------
Rafael--------------Vidic-----------Kjaer----------Fabio
-------------------------Van Bommel------------------------
------------Carrick------------------------Fletcher----------
Valencia----------------------------------------------Nani
--------------------------Dzeko-----------------------------
Rafael - Wing back and attack
Vidic, Kjaer - Central defender and defend
Fabio - Full back - Support
Van Bommel - Anchorman and defend
Carrick - Deep lying playmaker and support
Fletcher - Ball winning MF and support
Valencia - Winger and attack
Nani - Winger and attack
Dzeko - Poacher and attack.
Also, set the supply to Dzeko as target man and to his head. Use shorter passing.
Wreak havoc
Hi i dont know what is the best tactic for fiorentina
strikers: derdyiok mutu kadlec babacar mchelidze
midfiders: dougles costa badelj dagostino montolivo zanetti bolatti ljajic cerci jovetic
defenders vargas gamberini fazi felipe de silvestri
and what these best position
pls help
strikers: derdyiok mutu kadlec babacar mchelidze
midfiders: dougles costa badelj dagostino montolivo zanetti bolatti ljajic cerci jovetic
defenders vargas gamberini fazi felipe de silvestri
and what these best position
pls help
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I would probably set up a Wide 4231, i.e, MC-MC-AMR-AMC-AML.FC, using the fullbacks to provide the with and the 2 Mcs being rather defensive.
I would use the AMC as a second striker seeking free space and cutting inside with the ball when inside possession out wide.
In the FC position, I would use an advanced FC.
As for the wingers, it would depend on who's playing. If they have good crossing and having right foot on right flank, then I would have them huge touchline and cross a lot. If liking to cut inside right foot on left flank, then I would let them do so and restrict their fwruns so that they get a better angle on goal
Thx, but i have many strikers and who will be the fc ? derdyiok or babacar ? jovetic hava injuey for 4 months, i want 2 strikers tactic but i dont know what is
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Then perhaps a flat 442, adding some fwruns to the incutting wingers
rgadan try using this formation. It has brought me much success. Retrain vargas as a dl to become his natural position. Use your mlc as a ball winning defend to cover for vargas (I think Bollatti could do the jog or the extremely talented Kofi Agyei). Set your mc as a deep lying playmaker support (Montolivo or Badelj) and set your mrc as a box to box (montolivo badelj or even zanetti in difficult away matches). Set your amc as attacking midfielder (wide play move into channels. Jovetic or Douglas Costa). Set your left sc as advanced forward (set to roam from position) and use Mutu, Kadlec or even retrain Jovetic.Set your right striker as Target man (Babacar Derdiyok , and have them run with ball sometimes). Finally keep in mind your pitch is narrow (unless you changed it) so set your width to wide or atleast a few ticks before wide. Good luck
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Make sure Cattermole & Henderson are in your centre mid, make them close down every pass. I went for fluid & counter, great for the counter attacking, due to the pace of Welbeck, Bent & Gyan.
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Any specific formation you would like to play / not play with. Would you like to use 2 forwards or just one ?
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A formation that will help me get a good mid table finish and one that would get the best out of bent and Gyan so one that you think is best
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if you want a challenge, i would go for a flat 442, Standard-Balanced and take it from there using the shouts. It's Probably the ultimate way to leran how to read the ME and the best use of the players at hand
I would set up the midfield with one more deep lying playmaker on support ( used as a play maker, it your choice) and one central mid on defend. the I would us the wingers as winger-support to their best.If one winger likes to cut inside, then let him, Just make sure that their is space where he cuts inside ( i,e, not having a deep dropping Fc there).
In the Fc line, I would use Bent as a poacher and Gyan as either a Complete Fc on support or a deep lying one
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how would you set up the defence
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