Hardly a comparason is it? a player in his prime, or a player at the end of his career?
they haven't tapped him up, they havent met with him behind arsenals back now have they like chelsea did with cole???? if lampard wanted to play his last years at west ham(which wouldnt happen as he hates them and they hate him) im pretty sure chelsea would respect his wishes. lampard dosent rule our team yes he makes it better but thats all.
Hardly a comparason is it? a player in his prime, or a player at the end of his career?
its still the same situation.
It's not tho, selling a player who is 30/31 or so, back to the club he supports for a cut price fee, I can see the logic in that.
But when it's one of ,arguably, the best midfielders in the league, in his prime, I don't see why they should have to sell, he's only going to get better over the next 5-6 years, so why let him go for less than he is worth. Hes signed a 6 year contract or something in similar length.
they have only made one offer for 29 million. and have not made an offer since then, while of course making lots of noisethe difference is they have reportly offerd 40million surely thats enough for a club like arsenal who are making money every year this would help fund for a replacement and still have 15-20 million spare. i just think it shows what arsenal have become trying to keep a un-happy player at the club when their is good money on the table.
the difference is they have reportly offerd 40million surely thats enough for a club like arsenal who are making money every year this would help fund for a replacement and still have 15-20 million spare. i just think it shows what arsenal have become trying to keep a un-happy player at the club when their is good money on the table.
your missing the point fabregas supports barcelona whether he has just signed a 5 year deal or not this is a one in a lifetime oportunity to play for his boyhood club. at the end of the day money talks its not chelseas, man city, madrid or barcas fault we have money and you know most players strive to earn as much as they can. it just shows what type of club arsenal have become trying to keep a player when he wants out. i remember last year when utd fans knew ronaldo wanted to go to madrid their wasent all this yer well he owes us bullshit, its because utd are in a totaly different league to arsenal now days.
very true, wenger is not one to hide his displeasure when the situation warrants itWhile all this has been going on have Arsenal lodged any sort of complaint to Uefa for tapping up. They seem to be very quiet on the situation which is unusual for Arsenal and Wenger not to comment to the media.
I notice that one of the main players in the 'This is Not Tapping Up' scenario is a Chelsea fan. Now, while I understand some of the points you're trying to get across, I would like to know what your views were when Manchester City tapped up your Captain John Terry a few years back and came very close to signing him. Barcelona are doing the same thing as City did back then, so did you feel it was ok for City to do this to your club. If you did, then fair enough, but if you thought City acted out of order, then you must be able to see Arsenal's point of view?
I didnt think they tapped jt up they didnt have a secret meeting with him they just declaired they wanted to sign him. I also was thinking well if he goes we still got alex, carvalho and brana i wasent moping but i knew it wouldnt go through. What chelsea did with ashley cole in 2003 was wrong barca in my eyes have done nothing wrong and the same as city.
your missing the point fabregas supports barcelona whether he has just signed a 5 year deal or not this is a one in a lifetime oportunity to play for his boyhood club. at the end of the day money talks its not chelseas, man city, madrid or barcas fault we have money and you know most players strive to earn as much as they can. it just shows what type of club arsenal have become trying to keep a player when he wants out. i remember last year when utd fans knew ronaldo wanted to go to madrid their wasent all this yer well he owes us bullshit, its because utd are in a totaly different league to arsenal now days.
It's not tho, selling a player who is 30/31 or so, back to the club he supports for a cut price fee, I can see the logic in that.
But when it's one of ,arguably, the best midfielders in the league, in his prime, I don't see why they should have to sell, he's only going to get better over the next 5-6 years, so why let him go for less than he is worth. Hes signed a 6 year contract or something in similar length.
the difference is they have reportly offerd 40million surely thats enough for a club like arsenal who are making money every year this would help fund for a replacement and still have 15-20 million spare. i just think it shows what arsenal have become trying to keep a un-happy player at the club when their is good money on the table.
I notice that one of the main players in the 'This is Not Tapping Up' scenario is a Chelsea fan. Now, while I understand some of the points you're trying to get across, I would like to know what your views were when Manchester City tapped up your Captain John Terry a few years back and came very close to signing him. Barcelona are doing the same thing as City did back then, so did you feel it was ok for City to do this to your club. If you did, then fair enough, but if you thought City acted out of order, then you must be able to see Arsenal's point of view?
No, you're missing the point, why would he sign a 6 year contract if he didn't love Arsenal? Why would he dedicate the WC to us? Also, he has not once, publicly said that he wants out, just that if he does go, it would be to Barca, the papers put words in his mouth and your believing it, he has not handed in a transfer request, and no one apart from him and Arsenal know what he said when he met Wenger in private. R. Madrid offered £80 million. Of course we would accept the offer if we got that kind of money. As it is, the offer, which was actually 29 million EUROS, and about £25m was a ridiculous offer, there was no way Arsenal would let him go for that, or indeed £30m. If Rossel wants him, he's going to have to go back on what he said about not going for break trying to sign him. Stop using this repetitive, and frankly misguided argument that Man Utd and Chelsea are in a different league, because we won't let our captain go for £30 million? Because of course, United would definitely do that if Rooney wanted to go...
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No, they haven't offered £40m, and i doubt we'd accept that either, we value him at about £45-50 million, the only way that's going down is if Fabregas hands in a formal transfer request, which won't happen. And how the **** do you think we can get a good replacement for £20m these days. We've reportedly lined up Gourcuff, who'd cost at least £25m. He's not unhappy, he wants to move back to his boyhood club one day, he's just won the WC, and had his best ever season by some way, he dedicated the WC to us, i keep saying this because it's true, and you won't accept it.
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if rooney wanted to leave then im sure ferguson would do they same as he did with ronaldo and let him leave simple as that.
Ferguson would let Rooney go for £30m?? I don't think so. We received an inadequate offer, not £80m.
i never said 30million for rooney a reasonable offer his worth much more than that. i think 30million for fabregas is a reasonble enough offer.
WTF? These days, £30m is nothing for a player that scored 20 odd goals and another 20 odd assists... Berbatov was £32m, Robinho was a little more, Fabregas is better than both of them. At least as good as Villa = £40m. A lot better than Adebayor = £25m. Besides, we're going massively off topic, as fun as this argument is, the point is that Barcelona have made only one bid for our Captain, and the rest has been talk. Admittedly they haven't met with Fabregas behind Arsenal's back, but they did promise not to make a bid/unsettle Fabregas, and they have. Even if this is not tapping up, which i believe it is (whatever Wikipedia says...) - it is unprofessional and as a fan of football, not Arsenal, i want it to stop because it's not good for the game. And please don't say that speaking to every paper you can find, and getting your players to talk **** about Fabregas to every single paper isn't deliberately unsettling a player, in order to push through a move that the club doesn't want to happen. He's our player, he's under contract and that's that, if he wants to go, then he can hand in a transfer request, and lose all of his loyalty bonuses, not to mention the respect of a lot of Arsenal fans, as it is, he is being professional, and by and large refusing to talk about it in public.
Anyway. it looks like he will be an Arsenal player next season, so we can suspend this thread until next summer, when inevitably, they'll do it again, and i suspect they'll cough up around £50m if not more and Cesc will move. :'(