not the final matethat was Spain vs Netherlands
they made the Semi's
lol sorry i meant Semi-Finals
Clever Old Fergie!!
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lol sorry i meant Semi-Finals
lol sorry i meant Semi-Finals
still, 35 mil for a player who has only burst on the seen is a tad too expensive don't u think ?
so is 10m for a striker who we never heard off ahem Bebe... comparing both transfers, I'd rather take Caroll
It doesn't matter if you have players played in WC semi final or Finals. What matters is quality of the players we got.
I would have complained had we singed Torres, Carroll or Suarez as we are well stocked and we dont want any striker now. Rooney, Berba, Hernandez, Owen, next season with Welbeck, Macheda Doiuf coming back, we are very much comfortable in the strikers dept and it would have been foolish to spend so much money on them when we dont need to.
On the other hand, had we spent money of Left footed left winget or creative CM, i would have taken that.
And FYI, even when Chelsea were flying high i always said we have good enough squad as we do have and many of our squad players are underrated.
1. It was £7M
2. Carroll was not heard of until six months ago so that argument is kinda flawed.
Not a good one Alcarez. Bebe was brought for the future and do you know he is way down the pecking order and wont get a game unless Fergie decides to give him some game time. Whereas Carroll will be first choice on whom Liverpool with rely heavily. So you are comparing first team player to reserve player.
It was not 10 Million, it was 4.2 million pounds which was published in other paper.
It actually wasn't even £7m, it was closer to £4m, Fergie said.
I honeslty dont believe u wont have complained about Torres, no matter how many strikers u have, he is Torres
btw Man Utd have never struggled to qualify for Europe so once they did, I am pretty sure u would revert back ur last statement too,
lol Bebe was not heard off..... well ever and 7m which could have been spent on someone better at the time, I would take someone who has outscored Rooney,Drogba and Torres this season rather than take someone who used to play in the Portugues 3rd Division
what he said
bebe is a reserve player while carrol will be expected to fill the enormously fat shoes of el nino
Well there you go then....he cant compare £38M to £4M and they were both unknown players.....so his argument in extremely flawed.
nope the point was that u mentioned that Pool overspent on Caroll btw, so Man Utd rightfully overspent on Bebe too and I am saying that if I had a choice which player i would took at these value's, I would choose Caroll, a proven striker
what he said
bebe is a reserve player while carroll will be expected to fill the enormously fat shoes of el nino
Well there you go then....he cant compare £38M to £4M and they were both unknown players.....so his argument in extremely flawed.
Your pint was that Pool overspent on Caroll, I am saying that Man Utd overspent on Bebe in accordance with their respective value's and i would take Caroll, Caroll was hardly an unknown player btw and Man Utd could not have even affored Torres or Caroll at their values cos of their debt, if they could, who knows Fergie could have gone for them
£7.4m to be precise
Carrol at most should have gone for around £16m (he is more than Tevez, Dzeko, Robinho, Silva, Adebayor etc etc) he is nowhere near these guys standards... way too overpriced... who knows, he may just prove his worth..
he is nowhere close to being surrounded by names such as these...
Top 10 Overall Transfers
Carrol at most should have gone for around £16m (he is more than Tevez, Dzeko, Robinho, Silva, Adebayor etc etc) he is nowhere near these guys standards... way too overpriced... who knows, he may just prove his worth..
he is nowhere close to being surrounded by names such as these...
Top 10 Overall Transfers
- 1. Cristiano Ronaldo: Manchester United to Real Madrid – £80m (2009)
- 2. Zlatan Ibrahimovic: Inter Milan to Barcelona – £60.7m (2009)
- 3. Kaka: AC Milan to Real Madrid – £56m (2009)
- 4. Fernando Torres: Liverpool to Chelsea – £50m (2011) NEW!
- 5. Zinedine Zidane: Juventus to Real Madrid – £45.62m (2001)
- 6. Luis Figo: Barcelona to Real Madrid – £37m (2000)
- 7. Hernan Crespo: Parma to Lazio – £35.5m (2000)
- 8. Andy Carroll: Newcastle United to Liverpool – £35m (2011) NEW!
- 9. David Villa: Valencia to Barcelona – £34.2m (2010)
- 10. Gianluigi Buffon: Parma to Juventus – £32.6m (2001)
1, We never overspent coz it was actually £7M
2.You overspend as it was £38<
3. You cant call a striker who you have only seen for half a season a proven striker....Rooney, Drogba..... these are proven strikers
£7.4m to be precise
Carrol at most should have gone for around £16m (he is more than Tevez, Dzeko, Robinho, Silva, Adebayor etc etc) he is nowhere near these guys standards... way too overpriced... who knows, he may just prove his worth..
he is nowhere close to being surrounded by names such as these...
Top 10 Overall Transfers
- 1. Cristiano Ronaldo: Manchester United to Real Madrid – £80m (2009)
- 2. Zlatan Ibrahimovic: Inter Milan to Barcelona – £60.7m (2009)
- 3. Kaka: AC Milan to Real Madrid – £56m (2009)
- 4. Fernando Torres: Liverpool to Chelsea – £50m (2011) NEW!
- 5. Zinedine Zidane: Juventus to Real Madrid – £45.62m (2001)
- 6. Luis Figo: Barcelona to Real Madrid – £37m (2000)
- 7. Hernan Crespo: Parma to Lazio – £35.5m (2000)
- 8. Andy Carroll: Newcastle United to Liverpool – £35m (2011) NEW!
- 9. David Villa: Valencia to Barcelona – £34.2m (2010)
- 10. Gianluigi Buffon: Parma to Juventus – £32.6m (2001)
Caroll was overpriced but Pool had no choice, if they did not sign another striker, they would have been in the ***** for the rest of the season
Peanuts..
Now we dont get involved in this insane window, we dont have money. Whatever pleases you Sir. You are comparing 4M and 35 Million.
to be precise , they were already in the ***** when torres handed in a transfer request
4m for someone who played in the Third Division hmm......... btw Caroll is much more proven than Bebe and atleast u can rely on him to score goals, Torres is a world-class striker so i think that 50m is somewhat justified plus we got him in his peak years, hardly a bad deal, if Man Utd had the money, I am pretty sure Fergie would not have minded bidding for Torres
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its pretty comon knowledge that Man Utd will never bid more than 30m for a player, honeslty u are getting me all wrong
Bebe is overpriced why?
-He used to play in the Third Division
-He never proved himself in any league whatsoever
- Fergie did not even scout him properly according to Fergie himself
Caroll is overpriced why?
- He has just broke into the scene
- He is hardly worth 35m, not a proven as one would like but still has hit 11 league goals this season, more than Drogba or Rooney
- Already has got his first cap for England, is Bebe anywhere close to playing for Portugal LOL, but thats not really a justified arguement
- Touted by many as Englands next big thing, who knows, if he fulfills his potential, Pool may end up selling him for 50m in the future and this 35m would not look so bad at all but again we cant be sure
If I had to take either Bebe or Caroll at these values of 5m and 35m respectively, I would take Caroll, we know he can hit the back of the net and although we got him for a mega price, we know he has loads of potential while with Bebe u never know