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callamity said:
I was following it for a bit but as usual it took off haha looks a beast though.
I was quite keen to see your 4141 cos I just cant get mine perfect this year.
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Haven't been able to make my 4-1-4-1 perfect either, yet... It's pretty good, but it cannot compete with the 4-2-4.
 
ChristianEriksen said:
Haha, I don't argue. I just didn't see why 'every tactician has FMRTE'. And like I told you; I like the idea of this thread. What is your problem with me? I just wanted to help you with my first post, but you were right in your reaction. But I thought about sharing the save game were everything is settled down at the right way. So people just have to set up the tactic and test them. Is that possible maybe?

If no, don't call 'me arguing' or stuff. I just want to help you, that's all. As I like the idea of a superb community tactic!
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Okey, maybe there has been some misunderstanding here then. No harm intended from any of us, so it's all good mate :)
It is possible to make a test save template from the very beginning of the save, yes. But as you need FMRTE for other accuracy reasons as well, I set it up as it is.
 
Mr Langvatn said:
Okey, maybe there has been some misunderstanding here then. No harm intended from any of us, so it's all good mate :)
It is possible to make a test save template from the very beginning of the save, yes. But as you need FMRTE for other accuracy reasons as well, I set it up as it is.
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Okay, sounds fair enough. I understand.. the better the accuracy, the better the outcome. Will see if I can get FMRTE from someone and join the 'community tactic'.
 
ChristianEriksen said:
Okay, sounds fair enough. I understand.. the better the accuracy, the better the outcome. Will see if I can get FMRTE from someone and join the 'community tactic'.
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I hope you do mate, as you have a lot of experience in tactic creation/tweaking yourself :) By the way, another example of why you need FMRTE:

Imagine you want to make a slight formation change to the tactic, or maybe you want to add a team instruction that you haven't tried before. With FMRTE, make fluid right away, test the change right away :P Without FMRTE, make new save, go through all friendly matches, THEN test the change xD
See how time-saving it can be? :)
 
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After reading through this thread, I really can't understand why ppl got so many issues with the things in the team getting locked with FMRTE (no I don't have the program :P). In my mind it's quite understandable, this whole thread is about comparing tweaks made on a certain tactic, If A, B and C make their different tweaks and run a test season, they need to use the "locks" to have a valid results to compare...

If A gets a 8 month injury on his best GK, and B and C dosn't, it's very possible that A has a disadvantages to B and C and so on for B and C in case of injuries - I think we can agree it wouldn't be a equal way to compare the work/tweaks.

It is simply a way to compare each persons tweaks in a fair and equal enviroment, with a squad of players there is the same in every single test, makeing the tweaks do the differences, not RNG :)
 
bsup68 said:
After reading through this thread, I really can't understand why ppl got so many issues with the things in the team getting locked with FMRTE (no I don't have the program :P). In my mind it's quite understandable, this whole thread is about comparing tweaks made on a certain tactic, If A, B and C make their different tweaks and run a test season, they need to use the "locks" to have a valid results to compare...

If A gets a 8 month injury on his best GK, and B and C dosn't, it's very possible that A has a disadvantages to B and C and so on for B and C in case of injuries - I think we can agree it wouldn't be a equal way to compare the work/tweaks.

It is simply a way to compare each persons tweaks in a fair and equal enviroment, with a squad of players there is the same in every single test, makeing the tweaks do the differences, not RNG :)
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Very nicely summed up, ty :)
 
Your Welcome Mr. L :)

I might get into this tweak thing, just need to get my hands on the requirred program first, and find a bit more spare time xD
 
I like the idea of this myself. I do think you will defo get more accurate results by having perfect conditions for each test but personally i dont touch FMRTE myself as sometimes its 2 easy (or tempting) 2 abuse it and end up winning titles just by farting.

I've been doing a few tweaks to your tactic already anyway but only normal conditions so far.
 
would it be worth doing this with the executioner tactic instead?

because that is hands down the BEST plug and play tactic for this patch/FM, no questions asked whatsoever
 
Tacticseeker said:
would it be worth doing this with the executioner tactic instead?

because that is hands down the BEST plug and play tactic for this patch/FM, no questions asked whatsoever
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That is... debatable. I tried both, both tactics are amazing, but Mr Langvatns one suited me and my teams better. Someboby will have a greater success with executioner, there are many more factors coming into play, even the personal choice of formations and player types. I don't think there is "hands down the BEST" tactic this year, there are several top ones that will either suit you or not.
 
AllanT said:
I like the idea of this myself. I do think you will defo get more accurate results by having perfect conditions for each test but personally i dont touch FMRTE myself as sometimes its 2 easy (or tempting) 2 abuse it and end up winning titles just by farting.

I've been doing a few tweaks to your tactic already anyway but only normal conditions so far.
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FMRTE is for tactic creation/tweaking/testing only of course. If you use it for playing the game, it would be too boring indeed :P
 
Tacticseeker said:
would it be worth doing this with the executioner tactic instead?

because that is hands down the BEST plug and play tactic for this patch/FM, no questions asked whatsoever
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It would be quite weird wouldn't it? Me making a thread with TFF's tactic? :) I know his tactic is good too, as Pavleg says under here, there are many good/best tactics this patch, and there is no "hands down the best" tactic. This is SI's fault really, as they have made tactic creation too basic in FM14 and FM15.
 
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I think tactic creation is perfect... not everyone wants to be a tactician. If people want to download a tactic who's to tell them not to? I do believe though that they have ****** up on three-striker formations which destroy everything it comes up against, 4-2-3-1 just doesn't work on this game either, which is stupid.

To a degree.. they need to give us greater tactical control, more "localized" support so we can have the defence play completely different from midfield, etc. Getting a team to play like Barcelona during the Guardiola era hasn't been possible for a long time. much higher tempo with shorter passing does nothing much to defend with the ball.
 
zJordan said:
I think tactic creation is perfect... not everyone wants to be a tactician. If people want to download a tactic who's to tell them not to? I do believe though that they have ****** up on three-striker formations which destroy everything it comes up against, 4-2-3-1 just doesn't work on this game either, which is stupid.

To a degree.. they need to give us greater tactical control, more "localized" support so we can have the defence play completely different from midfield, etc. Getting a team to play like Barcelona during the Guardiola era hasn't been possible for a long time. much higher tempo with shorter passing does nothing much to defend with the ball.
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4231 works if you set it up correctly with the right players. keep in mind PPM's etc effect tactical performance.

The problem we have are most of the folks who download tactics are results driven, so see tactics which take high shots and score silly amounts of goals as being better than one that in terms of points won is just as good but does not score as many goals. So the high scoring tactics become more popular and you only see them in the testing leagues etc. I am not saying any of these tactics are bad at all far from it, but what you see is 40+ shots per game meaning more corners and long throws. It's kind of exploity.

I am quite the opposite I enjoy getting golden glove every year with a keeper having 20+ clean sheets and scoring 80 goals a season. The end result though is the same, win the league, win the cups etc and goal difference is roughly the same even though I have scored 50 less goals.
 
call it whatever you want
you play to win, while i play to destroy
 
pl3rious said:
call it whatever you want
you play to win, while i play to destroy
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I was not putting any of the tactics down mate, they are all solid and valid ways of playing the game. I was just trying to point out that these types of tactics are more popular because of the amount of goals scored over the suggested 4231(which supposedly does not work), or any other tactic that is not getting the same goals scored amount is all.
 
I am willing to test also. I have no idea how FMRTE works, so you will have to make a "how to" so I can set it up right
 
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