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EnzoMatrix said:
How is it irrelevant when I mention previous results? I ended 5th. I ended 7th. I play in Europe, quite good too, having lost to the eventual winner. And the most important thing is that the tactic is unchanged.
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Hey mate,

This is the most common mistake that all inexperienced FM players do and I strongly suggest you drop such thinking because it'll lead you nowhere. ;)

I see that very often inexperienced players think that if they finished the previous season at 7th position then the next season they must finish above that position no matter what but that's completely wrong thinking, also, they wrongly think that the position at which they finished the previous season tell everything about the strength of their teams which is also very wrong thinking.

I find that the main problem of all inexperienced players that causes the most frustration is their inability to determine the strength of their teams and that's why they always have false expectation which causes frustration.

Mate, play like a pro :P stop being noob ;) don't build your expectations that are based on the results that you had in the previous season; instead build your expectations that are based on the current strength of your team and if you don't know how to find out the strength of your team I can tell how to do that.
 
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EnzoMatrix said:
How is it irrelevant when I mention previous results? I ended 5th. I ended 7th. I play in Europe, quite good too, having lost to the eventual winner. And the most important thing is that the tactic is unchanged.
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Here's some explanation to what I said above:

Let's say your team was the weakest team in EPL so it had 20th media prediction.

Alos, imagine, that you were using a very good tactic that if you are extremely lucky during the season then you should finish as high as the 5th position and if you were extremely unlucky during the season then you should finish as low as the 11th position

And it happened that during the season you were extremely lucky and finished the 5th position

The next season you improved your team and it stopped benign the weakest team in EPL and it became slightly stronger and got 16th media prediction.

You were still using the same very good tactic that if you were extremely lucky during the season then you should finish the 2nd position and if you extremely unlucky during the season the you should finish as low as the 7th position.

And it happened that season you were extremely unlucky and finished the 7th position.



Conclusion : I think this example clearly shows that you might finish lower in the current season than the previous season but still it'll be great result/overachieving for your team taking into consideration its quality.

Also, it clearly shows that your result in the previous season doesn’t tell anything about the strength of your team and your expectation for the current season can't be built on the results of the previous season and your expectation for the current season always should be built on the current strength of your team.
 
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Burning said:
Hey TFF,

I would appreciate if you could explain it :)

Thanks
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probably to use external programs to see your CA PA etc but that shouldnt be how you have to play to enjoy the game and do well
 
Burning said:
Hey TFF,

I would appreciate if you could explain it :)

Thanks
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Hey,

It isn’t complicate at all but that’s how the game works and when you understand how it works then everything becomes much more enjoyable because if you understand how it works then you always build correct expectation and due to that they are always met which mean you never get frustrated.

Let’s take Man City at the beginning of the 1st season, the team predicted to finish 1st and that prediction didn’t come from nowhere, it’s based on the average CA of its players.

CA = amount of point that a player has to spend on his attributes.

As you can see at the screenshot below the average CA of Man City’s players is about “150” and the average CA of the starting eleven is about “160”

CA_Man_City.png





Now, let’s take Hull City that team is predicted to finish 20th(the last pace) and that prediction is based on the average CA of its players

As you can see at the screenshot below the average CA of Hull’s players is about “129” and the average CA of the starting eleven is about “133”

CA_Hull_City.png




So you always can check the CA of your players and approximately say where your team stand; for example, if it’s about 140 then you somewhere in the middle of the table; and if you want to have the strongest team in EPL then the average CA of your players should be higher than 150 and the CA of your starting eleven should be higher than 160.



El Wray said:
probably to use external programs to see your CA PA etc but that shouldnt be how you have to play to enjoy the game and do well
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It isn't necessary using 3rd party programs to find out the strength of your team and you can do that without using any 3rd party programs just by looking at the season preview table before the 1st match of the season because at that moment the teams in the table are sorted by their average CA and their prediction is based on the average CA.

But as I said you should look at this table before the 1st match of the season because only then this table is based purely on the average CA and during the season the prediction is also affect by current positions of the teams.

Med_Pred_Table.png









Also, I want to add that even that CA gives very clear understanding about quality of players but no need overestimate it because CA is just total amount of points that a player has to spend on his attributes but it isn’t less important how these points are spent and the way these points are spent determines the efficiency of this player for your tactic.
 
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TotalFootballFan9 said:
Hey,

It isn’t complicate at all but that’s how the game works and when you understand how it works then everything becomes much more enjoyable because if you understand how it works then you always build correct expectation and due to that they are always met which mean you never get frustrated.

Let’s take Man City at the beginning of the 1st season, the team predicted to finish 1st and that prediction didn’t come from nowhere, it’s based on the average CA of its players.

CA = amount of point that a player has to spend on his attributes.

As you can see at the screenshot below the average CA of Man City’s players is about “150” and the average CA of the starting eleven is about “160”

CA_Man_City.png





Now, let’s take Hull City that team is predicted to finish 20th(the last pace) and that prediction is based on the average CA of its players

As you can see at the screenshot below the average CA of Hull’s players is about “129” and the average CA of the starting eleven is about “133”

CA_Hull_City.png




So you always can check the CA of your players and approximately say where your team stand; for example, if it’s about 140 then you somewhere in the middle of the table; and if you want to have the strongest team in EPL then the average CA of your players should be higher than 150 and the CA of your starting eleven should be higher than 160.








It isn't necessary using 3rd party programs to find out the strength of your team and you can do that without using any 3rd party programs just by looking at the season preview table before the 1st match of the season because at that moment the teams in the table are sorted by their average CA and their prediction is based on the average CA.

But as I said you should look at this table before the 1st match of the season because only then this table is based purely on the average CA and during the season the prediction is also affect by current positions of the teams.

Med_Pred_Table.png









Also, I want to add that even that CA gives very clear understanding about quality of players but no need overestimate it because CA is just total amount of points that a player has to spend on his attributes but it isn’t less important how these points are spent and the way these points are spent determines the efficiency of this player for your tactic.
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Thanks TFF for your answer and detailed explanation
 
Started a career in Italy, it won't be a long-term save managing only team and in my second season i want to share some results:

Started managing Crotone first:
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and in the middle of second season, i avoided relegation with Crotone and applied for a job in Parma. They were 20th in the middle of second season. This is my run so far, i took them over around 20th of December, in the schedule just under the red line:
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is incredible. I have gone from having 11 points of advantage of Juventus to go 4 points below. It happens to me in every game. As soon as the tactics are 100% fluid, come the worst results
 
chatin said:
is incredible. I have gone from having 11 points of advantage of Juventus to go 4 points below. It happens to me in every game. As soon as the tactics are 100% fluid, come the worst results
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Very often, threre are 2 main reasons of poor results after a good start: 1) poor rotation of the team 2) lack of squad depth

You keep using your key players even they are tired or you give your key players a rest but their replacement is very poor quality, in both cases your results take a serious hit
 
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chatin said:
is incredible. I have gone from having 11 points of advantage of Juventus to go 4 points below. It happens to me in every game. As soon as the tactics are 100% fluid, come the worst results
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this happens to me alot, i find i get better results when learning the tactic than when its fully fluid
 
Mikeyokeyy said:
Very often, threre are 2 main reasons of poor results after a good start: 1) poor rotation of the team 2) lack of squad depth

You keep using your key players even they are tired or you give your key players a rest but their replacement is very poor quality, in both cases your results take a serious hit
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I would add to this that it's also very important to keep "Match Fit" all players in the team and not only your best 11 players and there are many way to do that but often people don't pay attention to that and that's why they get inconsistent results on long run distance
 
Is there any way to reduce the number of goals that come from by-line crosses? That said, I've unticked the cut-inside option on the wing backs, and tightly mark on the single center forwards but still it feels every cross from the by-line goes in from an unmarked striker. And three CBs standing around.

Mid-season dip in form (1 win 4 draws) fixed by changing training to Team Cohesion (High) and Teamwork for match prep. Managed to get three wins on the bounce since then.
 
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