Diego Simeone Inspired l 4-4-2 l Counter Attacking/Pressing :: by Artisan :: 15.3.0

I've been tinkering the front 2 roles... I like the original combination, and it worked quite good, but I imagine the DLF-S on the likes of Raul Garcia, who acts like a false target-man, and DLF with the instruction to run with ball does not seem appropriate. TM-S makes my team bomb balls forward, so I stick with DLF-S and remove the instruction to run with ball often. Then changed DF-D to DF-S to give me more fire power. So far so good.
Using 3 versions of the same tactic, one with standard, other with counter and the last with defensive. Working like a treat!
 
davidbarros2 said:
I've been tinkering the front 2 roles... I like the original combination, and it worked quite good, but I imagine the DLF-S on the likes of Raul Garcia, who acts like a false target-man, and DLF with the instruction to run with ball does not seem appropriate. TM-S makes my team bomb balls forward, so I stick with DLF-S and remove the instruction to run with ball often. Then changed DF-D to DF-S to give me more fire power. So far so good.
Using 3 versions of the same tactic, one with standard, other with counter and the last with defensive. Working like a treat!
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Nice one, I may well try this. I was originally more inclined to keep the DF-D so he can track back and make up for the extra midfielder and actually change the role of the DLF-S to perhaps a CF-A so that he acts as the more central forward.

I like the idea of different strategies in this too.
 
Using Man Utd what I see is, i struggle against weak opponents... they try to defend and don't give me space to explore, and I try to... counter. Some games my team was powerless and shouts don't quite fixe it. Standard gives me a good balance... not to attacking, not dependent of space given by other teams. And i'm liking DF-S, he can track back (more than the DLF) and will press higher up the pitch
 
Well bro atm i can say its very good....... 1st away match 5-38 shoots 1-4 65 possesion % ... ima gonna test it more...
Good work...seems it goes for 1st 4-4-2 at forum that can dominate atm
PS : If u twick messileo set piaces if u can , will be so powerfull.... definetly... i suggest to u :)
 
effective oposition

Hi.

Tactic looks intresting, just 2 things :

1. Oposition is extremely effective against my team, typical 2 shots on target = 2 goals!

I can have 15-25 shots on goal and score 1-2 while oposition has 1-2 shots and score 1-2 goals!! Dont know if this is the game or the tactic? Defense also seems very leaky, not quite like Atl. Madrid :) Has anyone tryed training defensivly?

2. Every 2-3 game one of the CM`s gets a red card, actually one game both CM`s was sent off.

Therefore i wonder, is it a good idea to have hard tackling in the OI and player instruction? This is like having 2 Roy Keane`s on the field at the same time and playing 10 vs 11 every 2 games is impossible. Normally i play Kehdira and Bender as BBM and CM wich should fit the roles perfect.

And, who do you take off if red card is given, the DLS?

thx.
 
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Runeaa said:
Hi.

Tactic looks intresting, just 2 things :

1. Oposition is extremely effective against my team, typical 2 shots on target = 2 goals!

I can have 15-25 shots on goal and score 1-2 while oposition has 1-2 shots and score 1-2 goals!! Dont know if this is the game or the tactic? Defense also seems very leaky, not quite like Atl. Madrid :) Has anyone tryed training defensivly?

2. Every 2-3 game one of the CM`s gets a red card, actually one game both CM`s was sent off.

Therefore i wonder, is it a good idea to have hard tackling in the OI and player instruction? This is like having 2 Roy Keane`s on the field at the same time and playing 10 vs 11 every 2 games is impossible. Normally i play Kehdira and Bender as BBM and CM wich should fit the roles perfect.

And, who do you take off if red card is given, the DLS?

thx.
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coz of aggresion and hard tackle bro..:)
 
I've been making substitutions when i see a potencial red card coming... but leaky defense, only with the case that artisan described in the boogey formation...
 
Could you post key attributes, PPM and individual training for every position ?

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Really annoying that I keep solid at the back, it performs well, I genuinely like the tactic, it is close to perfect.. but..

I cannot seem to get goals in it!!
 
ShaunWolf90 said:
Really annoying that I keep solid at the back, it performs well, I genuinely like the tactic, it is close to perfect.. but..

I cannot seem to get goals in it!!
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Then you shouldn't be looking up counter-attacking/defensive minded tactics. lol
 
PatrickBateman said:
Then you shouldn't be looking up counter-attacking/defensive minded tactics. lol
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That doesn't explain me dominating most, averaging 3 CCC but missing golden opportunities for fun though... And this is with 13/14 stats in finishing. In fact my one centre forward has 15.
 
gonna give this a go with my everton team (4th season)
 
Try tinkering with the front 2... try change the DLF-S to DF-S and the DF-D to CF-A...
 
Here I was, going from one exotic tactic to another, when a simple, effective, well made 4-4-2 tactic was a perfect setup for my team.

Go figure.
 
You never fail to disappoint Artisan, from what I've seen from it it is a very effective tactic.
 
i confirm, very effective tactic even in my career with Scandianese (6th level of the italian league)
 
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