GOOAALL-262-FM13.3.3 by Jesaustralia - The best tactic I've seen for FM13

Here's a little update - Brobs BBM - Starts from where it is bold

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I can add I'm signing Benteke in the January window - Strong and very good in the air - the exact type I want for a central striker a Drogba type. Collins my regent is good - but he still need to mold into a superstar if that should ever happen - he just got a 9.3 average rate by assisting twice - In general he always put in a good performance - but does struggle against better teams. I'm selling Damiao though I did like him - but not enough that I could say he was better than Collins the regent which makes this game insane - that you can actually find certain types of regents that will play at the same level as a star even though they are not their attribute wise yet. I'm also thinking in the coming season to make Ongenda and Fierro 1st team players which means Muller and CR7 either got to go or stay and be tutors for the youngsters. Maupay jut scored 4 times vs Albacete 3rd division side, but in general he just looks like he is the best player RMA have up front as an SCL. Muller is worth above 40m pounds and when I visually look at him he annoys me - shots going over the bar because his finishing is only 15 - mentally a beast so a good tutor I believe. Oh well we'll see what I'll figure out.

I like this tactic its very strong and organized defensively and it does give me a feeling that it can score goals - so I must say I highly recommend it - I use teamwork, but think Attacking movement will do good too.

Cheers
 
So More Brobs BBM - World cup for clubs...

Semi final match against Jaguares - mexican team so best central american team I reckon - Collins used as a centre striker

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If this is a capable team - Jaguares - then this is an awesome result - I don't care about the amount of goals - I'm happy with the amount, but its a side bonus - What I do care about is the many chances - and the no chances for Jaguares - that's the impressive part for me and shows me that the tactic has class. I can tell you when I played Ath Madrid away in la liga - they had 3 chances and were not looking dangerous at all. Further I used Collins in the Jaguares match and he scored 1 and he assisted one and could hav e scored more - which I kind of think that he will in the future when he's more developed - currently only 17 - I have another player simular to him also regent - I used him shortly last season, but this season I loaned him out to Getafe where he scores goals not for fun , but consistantly. CR7 is 29 almost 30 I think and I'm not very happy with his performances - I think his form are decreasing and maybe he's going on pension or something :) - bwomper said he was very successful with CR7 even at age 32 and I have to trust that - so I rather keep him as an extra striker than selling him off for profit - but I wanna make room for Fierro and Ongenda next season.

All these strikers are giving me problems - CR7 - Maupay - Lukaku - Bale - Collins - Fierro - Ongenda - its a luxury problem cause you wanna use them all - bu you also wanna see the best striker score 75 goals - and then Benteke is on his way Jeeeezzzz

Cheers guys
 
Okay, I decided to start a new save, again with Bayern München. My thoughts to make it a bit harder: No payment over 48 mounths. Everything has to be paid with the normal budget. I would like to built a realistic team, without buying the obvious players, who we are buying nearly every savegame.
For that I decided to start the first season with 4-3-3 secret souce, as I have players like Robben and Ribery. In the future I plan to switch to one of your tactics with three strikers. But therefore, I need to get the right players.

Wish me luck!
 
Smiza said:
Okay, I decided to start a new save, again with Bayern München. My thoughts to make it a bit harder: No payment over 48 mounths. Everything has to be paid with the normal budget. I would like to built a realistic team, without buying the obvious players, who we are buying nearly every savegame.
For that I decided to start the first season with 4-3-3 secret souce, as I have players like Robben and Ribery. In the future I plan to switch to one of your tactics with three strikers. But therefore, I need to get the right players.

Wish me luck!
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This tactic should fit beautifully for your Bayern team

4-3-3 Attacking Mind Post

Cheers
 
Smiza said:
Okay, I decided to start a new save, again with Bayern München. My thoughts to make it a bit harder: No payment over 48 mounths. Everything has to be paid with the normal budget. I would like to built a realistic team, without buying the obvious players, who we are buying nearly every savegame.
For that I decided to start the first season with 4-3-3 secret souce, as I have players like Robben and Ribery. In the future I plan to switch to one of your tactics with three strikers. But therefore, I need to get the right players.

Wish me luck!
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A much underrated 433 tactic would be the one I link too. Had good success with all teams I played with.. Also has some good info as well.

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...007s-complete-madness-433-dm-tactic-fm13.html
 
Ossis Mandos said:
A much underrated 433 tactic would be the one I link too. Had good success with all teams I played with.. Also has some good info as well.

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...007s-complete-madness-433-dm-tactic-fm13.html
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I haven't tried this tactic I admit so I'm careful of what opinion to have about this - I checked the page and it does get success, but results don't impress me - that is said by looking at other people's screenshots - perhaps play is amazing and that would count as a big thing for me, but under 100 goals are 40-50 goals to little - I have downloaded this tactic because i'm curious what it does - I will not look at it right now though - I'm certain too their is improvement possibilities in this one, but I will not look at that because Attacking mind is simular and score more - alot more if complete madness tendency is around 100 goals a season - anyway I'm not trying to shoot this tactic down - I only say what I see from the screenshots posted - so please go for it - would like to hear a fresh update on this tactic.

{EDIT} - Would like this one to be tried with a spanish top team - it might be an incredible tactic

Cheers guys
 
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I found a resource that might help out with tutoring - I have currently bought alot of players with amazing mental traits to tutor my youngsters - I think its worth it - I bought Frank Lampard - Kuyt - Nigel de Jong among the names for tutoring

Check out this page to learn more about it

Cheers
 
I just switched back to BBM CF20 and enjoyed the play as much as Frankenstein and Gooaall262. Latest Brobs - offensively I'm not completely happy with - defensively its a beast - Visually I'm not enjoying it at all - So I recommend not to use it or test it. I rather wanna hear about complete madness.

Cheers
 
For the complete madness tactic. Am surprised I have no posts in the thread. However I did take Alfreton from the BSP to the Championship. It didn't score 130+ goals in the league but did win the majority of games. I am in truth going by my memory here as it is a very long time since I played the tactic. Also recall using it with Chelsea with great success. I don't remember using the tactic outside of England though. Visually I can not in truth remember.
 
BBM Original Tactic. Used Teamwork all season and had Team Cohesion - Average - 30% Not sure that it made any difference, other than not getting past Strong Understanding for the majority of the season. The only thing I saw was that conditioning was good in between games, meaning less rest days. I scored more goals in the league than the season before and won all comps with the exception of CL. All strikers scored a lot of goals and Lucas as center striker got 59 goals in 51 games.

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Ossis Mandos said:
BBM Original Tactic. Used Teamwork all season and had Team Cohesion - Average - 30% Not sure that it made any difference, other than not getting past Strong Understanding for the majority of the season. The only thing I saw was that conditioning was good in between games, meaning less rest days. I scored more goals in the league than the season before and won all comps with the exception of CL. All strikers scored a lot of goals and Lucas as center striker got 59 goals in 51 games.

League Table

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Interesting - I'm actually thinking you will score more with attacking movement :) - only because I have had teamwork on for a while and I haven't seen alot of huge victories, but it can be coming down to the players - whether they are good enough or not, well they should be. CR7 Bale Maupay it doesn't get much better than that I believe. Very good to see your success with teamwork - In training I highly recommend 50% match preparation - and leave it on teamwork till january or their abouts - I think you want the team gel to be very high - I've seen some people use tactics match preparation even when their tactic is 100% fluid, so maybe that's an idea to try.


bwomper how are you going on teamwork with Frankenstein?

Cheers
 
I just wanted to try training that way as an experiment. Not sure if it succeeded or failed, as the season went well and goals were plenty. I think I'll give BBM original tactic 1 more season but use attacking movement once the tactic is fluid.

Best 11 from season played. Bit misleading as Lucas played all as central striker but must just be position in best 11.

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I have switched to 442 trippletweak - a tactic I have never been completely in love with, but know of its efficiency - I implemented a couple of tweaks - I set the CDR to attack near post on corners instead of flick on and then I tweaked CF on the 6 players that attack - CF set to 0 - we played one of the most beautiful matches I have ever seen and won 7-0 - 6 of the 7 goals was in the roof of the net - it was breathtaking to watch.

the general passing play was faster and very direct - I have read alot about football manager and someone said sometimes its good to limit the CF slider for some players - well it wasn't really clear what that person meant, but I think it meant if CR7 has 20 in flair he should be limited with CF to optimize his behaviour on the pitch - this is just a theory by me and I can be wrong, but my team is full of flair between 12-20 across the 6 attacking players - they were all limited and didn't receive a flair boost and played like a dream.

I have seen the opposite too where my team is given CF20 as you know I have reported this with BBM - where I saw someone like Lukaku banana shoot the ball with the outside of his foot - so its very hard to decide what's the best option between 0 or 20

Who do you give 20? and who do you give 0?

Could it be - less talented teams need more of a flair boost than a superstar team? - that sounds kind of logic doesn't it?

I just had attacks where we hit the post twice in the same session and got a 3rd opportunity in that session and scored - now that's exciting.

Good team=no CF or CF=0

Bad team=Yes CF or CF=10-20

Maybe :)

Here's the screenshot
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I'll upload the tactic later on

Cheers
 
I use team work all the season with a tweak of one of my frankies tweaks ( the "frankies meets Leo+Laudrup try ) I won all till the moment with nice play and a 5.3 media goals in league games. I think I will go with BBM CF20 in a new well oriented save (I will go only with this tactic since the day 1 of my carreer )

CF=20 for me is good for a talented players...its just an opinion but its like you give the liberty to the player of do the things he is capable to do. And he will try more often but always with sense.

About team work instead of attack mov... not big big difference...but I like the team work,make the team more estable for me. Are just my sensations. Cheers guys!
 
bwomper said:
I use team work all the season with a tweak of one of my frankies tweaks ( the "frankies meets Leo+Laudrup try ) I won all till the moment with nice play and a 5.3 media goals in league games. I think I will go with BBM CF20 in a new well oriented save (I will go only with this tactic since the day 1 of my carreer )

CF=20 for me is good for a talented players...its just an opinion but its like you give the liberty to the player of do the things he is capable to do. And he will try more often but always with sense.

About team work instead of attack mov... not big big difference...but I like the team work,make the team more estable for me. Are just my sensations. Cheers guys!
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I can guarantee you its not a liberty option - its a flair boost - players with alot of Flair though tend to go their own way (CR7) - so some players should have less creative freedom if their flair attribute is already high?. Mate I'm only saying this as a theory - someone reputable said it can be a good idea to limit some players - I thought when he said that - WHY!!!!? - Same person also said CF doesn't mean you should limit someone with less flair - it might improve his play by increasing it.

I think it can sound a little confusing - but if you just think of CF as a flairboost - Then you can probably in most cases get away with CF=10 for high flair players - If you have a monster like Messi or CR7 it probably doesn't matter what CF you give them - anyway I used BBM with 7 players on CF=0 and they played faster and more direct than normal - I felt it improved the overall defence somehow - corner kick takers took better corners - Dede became a beast on the near post - but his CF wasn't touched, but James Rodriguez who is my preferred taker executed them nicely and made Dede look like Kara on a good sunny afternoon in spain :)

I think the CF slider is way exaggerated - maybe less important - Its for years been said that CF=20 should be given to your most talented player - but that changed when a TC creator said its a flair boost nothing else - Some players should be limited in CF to get the most out of them - yeah but who right? - Someone with 9 in flair will probably improve given CF=20 or does it all come down to his decision attribute and the technical attributes combined?

I see cracking goals - Screamers from Pogba - Kroos - Maupay - Lukaku - Schweinsteiger - C.Ronaldo - James - and probably more on CF=0 - WHY?

Jeeez annoying

Cheers pal
 
4-4-2 Tripletweaked + Jesaustralia

I will not take any credit for this tactic - though I can tell you if it would have been a more flamboyant tactic I would :) -
its a 4-4-2 the most unartistic tactic in history :). Big changes made to this tactic and in my opinion this improves the very famous Langvatn tactic alot. Same stuff applies to it as the original - so for more information visit the Mr Langvatn thread

Cheers
 
Regents

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Could this really be?
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And yes many more - each season I can sign 50-100 regents and given the right guidance these will be good-superstar in the future - I have great tutors and can use them to improve my best regents - determination is very important in developing regents - so having tutors with a high determination attribute passes that on - which means I can send the regent out on loan with a high determination rating - he will develop in another club given playing time - a win win situation.

Cheers
 
How are you guys training your players in Brokeback Mountain Poacher tactic?
 
Smiza said:
How are you guys training your players in Brokeback Mountain Poacher tactic?
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Like any tactic really - youth on hard 1st team on average-light individually
Midfielders I train on box to box currently - bu I want them to be highly creative so can be trained on complete forward
Defenders I use sweeper schedule or Defender schedule
Wingbacks I switch between fullback and wingback schedule
Anchorman I start out with training for a long time as a defensive midfielder then later on I switch to anchorman
SCL/R I train as poachers and complete forward - if their technique is not at 20 yet I consider using trequartista schedule.
Players like James Rodrigues or wingers - wll be retrained using Complete forward poacher and trequartista.

If their is an attribute I want to increase in a player I use a schedule that are within a players reach preferably - retraining players is a 20 point deduction if retrained to natural - so If you can't train a player anymore stop retraining and train something within his reach to have a chance to develop him a little further.

Key attributes to keep an eye on - attributes you want to increase is
Decisions - technique - strenght - workrate - stamina
 
Huge result...
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I used a modified version of BBM - I set passing to 1 on most players - CF at 5 on poachers - CF to 10 on everybody else.
I am very impressed with the Man.City win because I didn't have CR7 - Bale - and played James and Collins the regent instead - Lukaku don't play well for me for some reason.

Cheers
 
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