GOOAALL-262-FM13.3.3 by Jesaustralia - The best tactic I've seen for FM13

Have finished my first season with Bayern. To be honest, I simulated most of the season, because I was tired of using the same players I have used a lot times. Now I am about to start the second season. I will report detailed! :)
 
My team is however not performing very well with BBM original. Even though my team chemistry is on "would die for each other". Would you still suggest your 2-6-2 Poacher enhanced? Right now it feels, as if my team has problems to get in the danger zone. Not enough shots on the goal. Maybe it is better, when I try a tactic where I have more players behind the ball. Thats why I thought about your original tactic.
 
Smiza said:
My team is however not performing very well with BBM original. Even though my team chemistry is on "would die for each other". Would you still suggest your 2-6-2 Poacher enhanced? Right now it feels, as if my team has problems to get in the danger zone. Not enough shots on the goal. Maybe it is better, when I try a tactic where I have more players behind the ball. Thats why I thought about your original tactic.
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try gooaall262 - its one of my favourites - its not the tactic that's the problem - its your players - The tactic is ready for a team to get glory - Can you tell me your line up and do you use attacking movement - I have had my most successes using attacking movement - but if the team gel is low - teamwork all the way

Cheers
 
Hello Jesasutralia, i need some help, sorry for posting this here but its the only fm 13 thread active nowadays...
Anyways, i would a suggestion for a tactic playing in Brazil, most of the teams use a 4222 or 3322, i always used arrigo sach but i get overun in midfield i guess...Can you help me with this one? maybe rock tactic?
THX
 
hugsy said:
Hello Jesasutralia, i need some help, sorry for posting this here but its the only fm 13 thread active nowadays...
Anyways, i would a suggestion for a tactic playing in Brazil, most of the teams use a 4222 or 3322, i always used arrigo sach but i get overun in midfield i guess...Can you help me with this one? maybe rock tactic?
THX
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Sorry for the late reply - I recommend gooaall262 or poacher enhanced they are both at the top of the front page of this thread. A few pages back their is a 442 trippletweak that I have tweaked further - I can also recommend that one.

Cheers tell me how you go - what you choose your results etc
 
So I found this Ghana player he is 20 and played for Ahl ahly or something like that - he's a regent and have been in game for the last 3 season - I have unfortunately missed him in my scouting somehow - in a moment you will see his skills

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So as you can see he is lacking in 2 attributes concentration - Strenght - but both 2 very significant attributes for a central defender - but I got this player for 1.5m pounds which is a candy price in my opinion - his determination of 19 makes me calm about loaning him out - so I will do just that so he will get some playing time and hopefully get those 2 attributes developed - the alternative is to give him 1st team playing time in RMA and risk bad performances due to his concentration mainly - not gonna happen, but I think he is a major talent and if he does developes then we will get a superstar defender in a few seasons time.

I am the Brazil manager my RMA manager got the job when applied and now its about time to play the Copa America - I'm using the 442 tripletweaked + my own tweak and so far the training matches have been amazing - beating the world champions in game Holland 3-0 and Colombia away 4-2 I think it was or maybe it was 3-2 - they are far from fluid ofcause because still a few weeks away from the Copa A starts. I expect to win this one and I can't wait till the team is fluid - its already a joy to watch.

I added a new manager - Danish team Brondby also the feeder club of RMA - I'm not gonna use loans or anything - I chose Brondby because I wanted to see how well the 4-4-2 tripletweak + my own tweak will do with lesser but good players. Players are a mix of Danish and African players and then their is an added east european touch to it. I went for alot of stronger players and players with some decisions - so not retards - My best striker is from Algeria

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I recommend this player to anyone because I think he's a beast in the game.

I also got Kiko Casilla the Espanol GK the guy I am very impressed with whenever I watch him play - so looking forward to see him in more actions. The team is created by Swaps only through Fmrte - and is handpicked players that I think were fairly realistic - ofcause some of the player wouldn't be possible real life to attract them to brondby - a player like Belfodil would be in a french club normally. The arch rival FC Copenhagen have good players compared to my team - I'm looking forward to get this started which is pretty soon.

RMA - well I use a more direct version of BBM an unreleased version that I'm testing - season hasn't started yet so can't say to much about it - last season I won everything and went 37-1-0 in la liga. This season alot of talents will take over - meaning Lukaku - Benteke will be sold - I'm also considering the sale of Bale - yep I am - even CR7 I was thinking, but he would be a good tutor so - I'm keeping him for tutoring purposes. I have resigned Falcao but for tutoring purposes as well - I'm filled up with talent and I wanna use them to be honest - so that's how it is.

I hope you are good out their - I recommend you to try the 4-4-2 tripletweaked + Jesaustralia to see how it performs for you.

Cheers
 
jesaustralia said:
try gooaall262 - its one of my favourites - its not the tactic that's the problem - its your players - The tactic is ready for a team to get glory - Can you tell me your line up and do you use attacking movement - I have had my most successes using attacking movement - but if the team gel is low - teamwork all the way

Cheers
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Hey jes!
How are you doing? I played two seasons with Bayern, but to be honest I simulated most oft the time using BBM Poacher tactic. First season I became league champion and won the Champions League. Second season was a disaster, finished the season third place, didn't win domestic cup either and in champions league I was stopped in quarter final.
As I mentioned before, I tried to play this savegame without paying over 48 months, what makes it very hard to change the squad and forces me to buy players who may be not the best there are. So I bought for example Falcao (very good) and Fernando Torres as a striker.
Long story short: Of course, by simulating the results weren't as good as they may have been, when I would have picked every starting line. I decided to quit my job at Bayern München. I do have now the reputation world class and I am looking forward to see what comes next. I don't know if I am going to take over a smaller club and make him big or try to become manager of a big team.

Even when I failed at Bayern (and when you don't win the league every year you do fail!), I managed to get them one future world class striker. He's from Ajax and developed good under my instructions. I bet, you would like to have that guy! :)
I am going to keep you updated, guys!
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Smiza said:
Hey jes!
How are you doing? I played two seasons with Bayern, but to be honest I simulated most oft the time using BBM Poacher tactic. First season I became league champion and won the Champions League. Second season was a disaster, finished the season third place, didn't win domestic cup either and in champions league I was stopped in quarter final.
As I mentioned before, I tried to play this savegame without paying over 48 months, what makes it very hard to change the squad and forces me to buy players who may be not the best there are. So I bought for example Falcao (very good) and Fernando Torres as a striker.
Long story short: Of course, by simulating the results weren't as good as they may have been, when I would have picked every starting line. I decided to quit my job at Bayern München. I do have now the reputation world class and I am looking forward to see what comes next. I don't know if I am going to take over a smaller club and make him big or try to become manager of a big team.

Even when I failed at Bayern (and when you don't win the league every year you do fail!), I managed to get them one future world class striker. He's from Ajax and developed good under my instructions. I bet, you would like to have that guy! :)
I am going to keep you updated, guys!
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Better players better results - any tactic - Guaranteed :)

Your regent Twan Thijssen - he's a monster in a package - but one really bad thing about him is his height 1.81cm - His jumping reach will never be as a tank - beware of this when training him - you can maybe squeeze 15 out of him - He's a Maupay type and I suggest you develope his quickness in the 20 20 20 20 acc agil bal pac. I love this type of strikers - because looking at someone without technique I'm always thinking why are they footballers - didn't they train? To many footballers have to poor technique - I at my current age have better technique than most of them - so you could expect a little more than just physical strenght - sorry i'm getting sidetracked again - Jeeezz Jes. Your regent is a beauty - if you upload your save I will have him :) - A quick note for you - buy Dirk Kuyt and don't play him - but buy him and tutor your superstar regent Thijssen - Kuyt has I think 18 in determination and if you transfer that to Thijssen you will see a player develop very quickly. If you have any DM/CD regents - get Lorik Cana - he's a born leader with some crazy stats that you want to try and get to a regent - their is many more - look for determination 18-20 - then look at their personalities - mentality and personality is what you want to give them - forget about ppm's - always choose mentoring when tutoring.


My RMA Save

sold CR7 31 years old - Bale is sold both 46.5m pounds and both gonna be Arsenal players - great package for them I reckon - Lukaku and Benteke is gone - Regent focus on 2 centre strikers + Maupay - Ongenda - Fierro - James Rodriguez. Tielemans have been tutored by several players their among CR7 and he is truely a beast midfielder 18 years old now - both him and Maupay are the same generation - then I add Pogba into the mix and open my mouth to greatness.

Brazil did really well - but only Bronze at Copa America - they destroyed Uruguay in the group matches with 5-1 Japan u23 4-0 and Peru draw. They played Uruguay in the Semi Final and lost on Pens - Jeeez that was poor. Uruguay won the whole competition - and I felt it was Brazils to win - I was wrong.

Brondby swapped alot of players as I have told you before - one player was a regent striker - Aston villa had a few tiny bids on him the largest 5m pounds - I decided to negotiate that for 20m pounds + 50 % of next sale - The player is 19 - I sold him!!!! - If you sit out their and play lower european leagues don't be afraid to renegotiate your players - I thought 20m pounds was over the top though - but 10m pounds these are the values we are looking at when selling a really good player normally in tiny european leagues. Remember I did alot for the teams in this save - So many clubs has alot of money to spend - so the 20m pound sale would have been inflicted because of this. I'm also selling Belfodil - to many people upset and I can't have this sort of squad - he will go for about 13m pound - he's valued 1m pound - the regent that I sold for 20m pounds was valued 775k.

I'm currently tweaking the 442 tripletweak though the first tweak I did was very satifying, but I'm trying new stuff to see how it will go. I still don't understand why CF=0 was so good. I'm trying out a mentality tweak - with the vision that mentality is positioning though it shouldn't be - Run from deep is, but lets test it though.

Cheers
 
Okay, after one season of waiting for the right club I got an offer from Real Madrid in June 2015!

I take this challenge and start a new try with BBM Poacher tactic!

But still: no payments over 48 month! :)

Out of interest: Player like Di Maria, Özil etc.: would you play them als strikers and training as a complete forward?
 
Smiza said:
Okay, after one season of waiting for the right club I got an offer from Real Madrid in June 2015!

I take this challenge and start a new try with BBM Poacher tactic!

But still: no payments over 48 month! :)

Out of interest: Player like Di Maria, Özil etc.: would you play them als strikers and training as a complete forward?
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In my world they are not good enough - I wouldn't have them anywhere but the transfer market
 
jesaustralia said:
In my world they are not good enough - I wouldn't have them anywhere but the transfer market
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I was fast answering sorry for that - what I meant to say was - Mesut Osil is a dream of an Attacking midfielder which the tactic don't use - but If you want to use Mesut you should retrain him as a centre midfielder though he's about 26 in your game - try and get him accomplished as a centre mid and then go either box to box or central midfield as a training schedule try and improve his tackling and marking - He's not a good choice as a striker.

Di Maria - is a great winger - but he's far away from what I want in a striker unless you retrain him and train him as a poacher - though I think he can't develop into what I want in a striker - You can get alot of money for them both I'm sure 46.5m pounds X2 - they are both superstars in their field - I love these kind of players real life - highly technical and should be honored above those who are less technical. For the tactic poachers need good 16+ finishing extremely quickness technical creative and strong most often.

Maupay developed CR7 Messi Aguero Ongenda Fierro

Cavani - Plenty of regents already circling in your game - you should be able to pick exellent players up - If you have CR7 still use him as a tutor on your best talent - use him as a mentor - and get the determination to 20 on your regents.

Cheers
 
My handpicked Brondby squad - has failed impressing me - to many angry faces - I had to do a squad sellout - and instead I went on a long journey to find suitable players in Croatia - Serbia - Slovenia - Poland - Russia and a few in Africa. To be quiet honest its very fulfilling to find the players like this - without using the current knowledge of the scouting team you put together, but its also a long and at times a boring task to set out and do - but I did it and I had plenty of money to spend, but for me it wasn't about getting the best current players - for me it was about getting some talents that I felt will be useful now and amazing later.

I found the next Svonimir Boban a former AC Milan man real life. I found a tank centre forward from Poland who's very developed compared to his age - he has 17 finishing which is rare for tanks. I found a very special Russian midfielder - currently playing for the russian youth 21 - He was the one I spent an insane amount on to get - but I expect to get this back double when I sell + I'm trying to build for the future - when CH League hopefully be the competition we will enter next season. In all my adventure of looking for talents I went to player search and filtered for age 21 crossing and pace 15+ - 1 player only came forward his name was King Tetteh and was the exact player I was looking for AML/ML - He was on the transferlist in Norway valued 1k - I could get him for 1.6m pounds

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He plays beautifully when he's on - I currently use him as a sub, but I really like him.


I only have 2 older players in the team one being a left fullback that I look to sell next season - I'm getting a fantastic fullback talent from slovenia I think it is. Strikers I don't have many off - so I loaned one striker a Brazilian from RMA that's not yet developed and then I got this amazing French striker talent called Saint Louis 17 years old and scored in his debut. So in general I'm looking forward to see what these players can become.

I created a new tactic based on Targetmen, but I didn't really like it - I still don't know how to make Targetmen score many goals - If you know a solution tell me about it - I might go about this the wrong way - for now I will try and incorporate them in the modified 442 trippletweaked.

Cheers
 
First short update:

I decided to sell players like Di Maria and Özil :) I bought a lot players, who are in my opinion good. Later, I am going to present my squad. The first games are going to be a real test for my new team: Villareal, Valencia, Manchester United (supercup), Barca, Sevilla. Wow. Titles can be won and lost in the first few weeks of the season!
Little spoiler: I managed to buy my former FC Bayern Regen striker, who I showed you before!
Real had a very bad season last year. They finished on 6th place but managed to win the euro league. But therefore I have to spend my time this season in euro league instead of champions league!

Keep you guys updated! Have a nice day! :)

Jes: King Tetteh! What a great name! :D
 
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Smiza said:
First short update:

I decided to sell players like Di Maria and Özil :) I bought a lot players, who are in my opinion good. Later, I am going to present my squad. The first games are going to be a real test for my new team: Villareal, Valencia, Manchester United (supercup), Barca, Sevilla. Wow. Titles can be won and lost in the first few weeks of the season!
Little spoiler: I managed to buy my former FC Bayern Regen striker, who I showed you before!
Real had a very bad season last year. They finished on 6th place but managed to win the euro league. But therefore I have to spend my time this season in euro league instead of champions league!

Keep you guys updated! Have a nice day! :)

Jes: King Tetteh! What a great name! :D
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If I ever get a dog I will call him King Tetteh for sure :)

Something important for those who likes to use Brokeback Mountain - best version haven't been posted on the front page - so I just found it and just beat Zaragoza 11-0 away from home - beat that wooow :)

Anyway I will update the front page as this is important for those who wanna use this - and Smiza you should really load up this one - its clearly the best version of BBM - I'm looking forward to see your updates as well

Cheers

Broke Back Mountain - Best version - Go to this post now and destroy everyone
 
jesaustralia said:
If I ever get a dog I will call him King Tetteh for sure :)

Something important for those who likes to use Brokeback Mountain - best version haven't been posted on the front page - so I just found it and just beat Zaragoza 11-0 away from home - beat that wooow :)

Anyway I will update the front page as this is important for those who wanna use this - and Smiza you should really load up this one - its clearly the best version of BBM - I'm looking forward to see your updates as well

Cheers

Broke Back Mountain - Best version - Go to this post now and destroy everyone
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I know Zaragoza is a better team than Legia Varsovia but...

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Using BBM CF=20 is a save I founded yesterday,one save with the roster with who I make many tactics like the "Frankie meets Leo Laudrup try" and "The 3 Messis role: Arrow"
Is a team full of talented regens,so I know this result is not better in terms than yours vs Zaragoza,but is quite impresive for me :)

You make a 3 headed monster tactic,I think is almost imposible make a better tactic than that. Is funny to watch,super scoring,a wall in defense almost all games. We can try more formations,many options like a terget man or a tactic with no strikers hyper creative with 3 AMC ...whatever,this tactic is the tactic for the talented teams. I see the Frankenstein tactics are very good too but are more for a full regens teams.
Good job jess and thanks to all people here to still enjoy fm13 ;)
 
bwomper said:
I know Zaragoza is a better team than Legia Varsovia but...

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Using BBM CF=20 is a save I founded yesterday,one save with the roster with who I make many tactics like the "Frankie meets Leo Laudrup try" and "The 3 Messis role: Arrow"
Is a team full of talented regens,so I know this result is not better in terms than yours vs Zaragoza,but is quite impresive for me :)

You make a 3 headed monster tactic,I think is almost imposible make a better tactic than that. Is funny to watch,super scoring,a wall in defense almost all games. We can try more formations,many options like a terget man or a tactic with no strikers hyper creative with 3 AMC ...whatever,this tactic is the tactic for the talented teams. I see the Frankenstein tactics are very good too but are more for a full regens teams.
Good job jess and thanks to all people here to still enjoy fm13 ;)
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Ohh - that makes me so happy to hear - 14-0 against Legia is a massive result - they might be poorer than Zaragoza - but its still 14 goals scored and that's not easy to do - if you can do 14 you can do 20 in my believes :) just a matter of time before it happens. So you use the CF=20 version - maybe that's the version to use when your team is fantastic full of regents or a fully developed Maupay :)

Do you have success with slow Tank centre forwards - using BBM CF20?

What types of strikers do you use?

Anyway its so hard to create tactics now after the BBM entered the scene - I really want to create a consistant tactic for the smaller european teams like Brondby - a tactic that can go far against the big guns - and in that thinking I want tank forwards to be successful - but I'm not sure how to do that yet - also I want the more defensive midfielders to be incorporated in such a tactic. I'm gonna load up BBM for Brondby and change the formation so it can use wingers defensive midfielders and targetmen - it sound like its gonna be a 442 oh well lets see...

Thanks for the nice words mate - it means alot

Cheers
 
Sorry for lack of update on BBM original, but not a lot really happened. Won all comps with Barca and using attacking movement, though for me was not better or worse than teamwork all season. Might do a season using the 442 tripletweak + Jes tweak.
 
jesaustralia said:
Ohh - that makes me so happy to hear - 14-0 against Legia is a massive result - they might be poorer than Zaragoza - but its still 14 goals scored and that's not easy to do - if you can do 14 you can do 20 in my believes :) just a matter of time before it happens. So you use the CF=20 version - maybe that's the version to use when your team is fantastic full of regents or a fully developed Maupay :)

Do you have success with slow Tank centre forwards - using BBM CF20?

What types of strikers do you use?

Anyway its so hard to create tactics now after the BBM entered the scene - I really want to create a consistant tactic for the smaller european teams like Brondby - a tactic that can go far against the big guns - and in that thinking I want tank forwards to be successful - but I'm not sure how to do that yet - also I want the more defensive midfielders to be incorporated in such a tactic. I'm gonna load up BBM for Brondby and change the formation so it can use wingers defensive midfielders and targetmen - it sound like its gonna be a 442 oh well lets see...

Thanks for the nice words mate - it means alot

Cheers
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I use "normal strikers" for the STR/STL ,very tecnical and faster. With normal I mean not a tank striker,jump between 11/14 same for strenght. At the central striker spot I use tank strikers but with a minimun of 14 in peace and aceleration.My regens are near to superstars so I cant tell you how it goes with a slow strikers. Did you recomend the other tactic than the CF=20?
 
I recommend BBM I posted above - which is not CF=20 - but if your team are tearing **** up then you should keep using CF=20
With the one above it will also tear defences apart
 
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