GOOAALL-262-FM13.3.3 by Jesaustralia - The best tactic I've seen for FM13

bwomper said:
first impression with frankenstein finesse: beautiful ofensive play...but to risky.I conceed a lot (9 goals in 3 games) The new formation is very nice but with only 2 CD it will be so hard to no conceed goals. But that is a first impression,with time maybe I can conceed less.I will post some screen shots when I complete the first leg of the league,cheers mates.
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Its ok mate - I actually expected it to be leaky - The wingers are the wide covers - which they are not if we shall be honest - if Frankenstein should do better defensively it would look very simular to BBM and we can't have that - All the reason why I dared to have an anchorman instead of central defender more - you still lack wide cover in this formation - unless the central defenders would track horizontally perhaps - (Move into channels) - just an idea.

Feel free to try and tweak it mate - these tactics except BBM are rough estimates and can fail.

Cheers

Ps. I'm very happy you are testing this one - its your baby to start with - Maybe if wingers were wide midfielders instead?
 
jesaustralia said:
Well done Papa Shango - that's truely amazing - was that with 442 tripletweaked + Jesaustralia?
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Yes it was that tactic, will finish season later today. The only real problem I find with tactic is I get too many yellow cards, maybe is French league. As for 1 game I had 7 players suspended lol I will have a look at one of the newer version tactics. Might look at diamond one as is one I have never tried to my knowledge any way.
 
You know I'm really dieing to hear someone report me something about 4141 - why? because its very different from the rock - both player settings and team settings - It beat Arsenal 7-0 - Liverpool 5-0 - Chelsea 3-0

But if you are tuned in on the Diamond Ossis - then that's fine with me - I need to open up a 3rd team so I can test the 4141, but I don't know what team yet.

Suspension 7 players that sounds unreal - must be something to do with a referee in the french league - Check tactic you use for hard tackling - your players aggression combined with tackling and marking is maybe off - both high is good but too low and their is a problem.

Anyway looking forward to your updates which I always do

Cheers mate
 
I finished 1st season with Nice. Would say that the amount of bookings was silly, 100 + bookings has to have something to do with what you say Jes. Still finished 2nd which to me is amazing. Won smaller French league Cup and lost to PSG in French Cup Final.

League Table

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Best 11

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Ossis Mandos said:
I finished 1st season with Nice. Would say that the amount of bookings was silly, 100 + bookings has to have something to do with what you say Jes. Still finished 2nd which to me is amazing. Won smaller French league Cup and lost to PSG in French Cup Final.

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Fantastic you've done all that with Nice - that is really nice :) - good job pal
 
Mid season results... not too proud have to say.

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3rd in my CL group so I went to the europa league.

I will go with 3 CD instead the 2+the anchorman. I will make the central CD a Libero,not too ofensive but just for be a 3rd midfielder for possesion
 
bwomper said:
Mid season results... not too proud have to say.

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3rd in my CL group so I went to the europa league.

I will go with 3 CD instead the 2+the anchorman. I will make the central CD a Libero,not too ofensive but just for be a 3rd midfielder for possesion
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You should try your own version but with no CF on the attacking players - it looks like it need a major make over from what I read from this.


Cheers
 
jesaustralia said:
You should try your own version but with no CF on the attacking players - it looks like it need a major make over from what I read from this.


Cheers
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Yeah I keep in mind that idea. You found something very interesting about the CF ,really like the way the team plays in offensive terms.
 
bwomper said:
Yeah I keep in mind that idea. You found something very interesting about the CF ,really like the way the team plays in offensive terms.
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yea me to - I always felt pressured to use the CF just because its their lol - but its a relief that I can say - define the settings well in both team instructions and player instructions - and give the players no CF and they will play like a dream - most often :)
Defenders and Anchormen has 10CF, but only because I feel they play great with those settings - otherwise I would have removed them as well - If you have an extremely creative defender - with high decisions and creativity - I would give him passing between 15-20 - CF=0 Through balls=often and maybe run from deep=often - They would try and setup your strikers and wingers from deep and it would give more clearcut chances - anyway that's just theory :)
 
Ossis Mandos said:
Not exactly the CL Group stage draw I was hoping for. Not sure if it could have been more difficult.

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Wow - amazing - ManC seeded 2 - RMA seeded 1 - Dortmund Seeded 3 - Nice "Not quite their yet :) " ?

Exciting though - you get to eliminate the big guys straight off the bat - I'm looking forward to hear how you go

Cheers mate
 
4141 Finesse Update

I only played a few matches with AC Milan - I'm in the January transfer window and I'm building a very new team compared to what they had - I'm also trying to have a theme going on - I want to eventually make AC Milan all Italian - So I will try and sign as many Italian profiles as possible. I'm for now using wingers with reversed foot - so kind of inside forwards at MR/L position

Team gel is at the level before blend well together - which is "haven't achieved a good level of understanding yet" - All that is the reason why I am excited about the match I'm about to show you a screenie of - Cheers

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Well I finally signed all the players that I targeted for AC Milan - well almost...
As I told you I had a dream to go italian, but that is pretty difficult when you have 5 star talent from france in the squad - so it will be a tendency of italian blood - Bernard has an italian citizenship, but ofcause he's Brazilian - so it doesn't count towards that.

I like this idea - but more importantly I got all the players that I need to make the 4141 dominate when the team cohesion settle in. I reckon next season we will see what this tactic is capable off, but its already showing promising signs, without beautiful play, but it gets chances and their is a tendency that it will be hard for the opponents to score.

The Team

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Latest on 442 Diamond tactic with Nice. Is not going very well with the players I have and team gel at only strong understanding of course does not help. Defensive wise it leaks goals as my defenders make horrendous mistakes. FB's do not know how to defend and generally give the ball away to easily. Attack wise can look good, but it has not scored the goals I did last season and is not creating that many goals or shots on target. Could work well with a very good team, but is not going good with an underdog like Nice. A few screenshots

League Table at around half way

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Fixtures so far

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CL Group (Which was not a surprise)

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Ossis Mandos said:
Latest on 442 Diamond tactic with Nice. Is not going very well with the players I have and team gel at only strong understanding of course does not help. Defensive wise it leaks goals as my defenders make horrendous mistakes. FB's do not know how to defend and generally give the ball away to easily. Attack wise can look good, but it has not scored the goals I did last season and is not creating that many goals or shots on target. Could work well with a very good team, but is not going good with an underdog like Nice. A few screenshots

League Table at around half way

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Fixtures so far

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CL Group (Which was not a surprise)

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That looks to painful - please abandon that :) - These tactics was meant for exceptional players nothing less - so will be hard to judge the tactics fully in my opinion, but if its a long term save I totally get it - I recommend though that you don't carry on my wayward son :) with that tactic - maybe switch over to the 4141 to see what happens just an idea.

Cheers mate
 
Quick update - Brondby my danish team has also adopted BBM Last crack and are very successful in the 1st team and are storming towards the championship - its a very young and talented side, bu I made sure that I didn't get to good players meaning in the beginning I made alot of swaps - their is only a very few left because I sold most of them - their among I sold Lazar Markovic who wasn't looking that great, but he got sold for 38m pounds which is crazy, but I bet it is because I made alot of clubs wealthy - otherwise this probably wouldn't have happened. Brondby is rich because of the desire to make money was to great and I wanted to go out their and find regents for them - so I didn't go out their and got ready made players even though I could have afforded that - I went to alot of youth international sides and scouted their talent and picked out several players - I even got a french regent striker :) . I also wanna keep Brondby Danish - but currently that's difficult since their is not enough talent in Denmark ingame yet, but it will come :)

Casilla is a good keeper - he don't like handling the ball though - but he seems to have world class reflexes - so in another save if you are in need of a cheap goalie - he should be your man.

So I just found out that Brondby's youth team is in the CH league semi final - they don't have a great youth team - its not even full in numbers, but they do have some decent players, but they beat Barcelona youth 3-1 away in the quarter finals that's pretty impressive if you ask me - that competition belongs to RMA normally - It tells me something good about BBM last crack - its a good tactic even for the smaller teams in europe - not for an underdog team - but for a team that expect to be top 3

AC Milan - I sold the french striker Niang - because I signed Berardi - who seems to be a bigger talent than Niang - or my scouts suck - Anyway I subbed Berardi in after 60 minutes in his first game and he scored twice - next save for you look out for Berardi I loved what I saw - Maupay - Berardi - Ongenda is a dream trio.

Anyway I'm going to try and make Milan all Italian with players born and raised in Italy and then maybe I can become Italy international manager with a full AC Milan team lol - that's for the future though.

Cheers
 
jesaustralia said:
That looks to painful - please abandon that :) - These tactics was meant for exceptional players nothing less - so will be hard to judge the tactics fully in my opinion, but if its a long term save I totally get it - I recommend though that you don't carry on my wayward son :) with that tactic - maybe switch over to the 4141 to see what happens just an idea.

Cheers mate
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No Jes, was not a long term save just wanted to have a look at the diamond tactic and Nice was only save at start of friendlies. I might finish season with 4141 and see how that goes or might set up a new save in EPL, not sure yet!
 
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