GOOAALL-262-FM13.3.3 by Jesaustralia - The best tactic I've seen for FM13

Offer was pathetic - 1.8m pounds - its like throwing gold away - know what I mean? :)

Maybe its a bad time on selling players - I will maybe try again coming to july - im in june now

Cheers
 
Quick update from me on my Juve save with 4-1-4-1 Finesse. Just so you are not the only one updating Jes :-)

Am about a third of way through season and at start of December and have just hit extremely strong understanding. Had a bad run of results at one point. However the play looks good, some silly mistakes made at start and these seem to have now gone.

League Table after 15 games

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Fixtures up to start of December

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Ossis Mandos said:
Quick update from me on my Juve save with 4-1-4-1 Finesse. Just so you are not the only one updating Jes :-)

Am about a third of way through season and at start of December and have just hit extremely strong understanding. Had a bad run of results at one point. However the play looks good, some silly mistakes made at start and these seem to have now gone.

League Table after 15 games

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Fixtures up to start of December

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Very nice - yes you had a bad patch it seems - could be many things - but if you delete that in your mind and change match preparation to attacking movement then I think we will see the clearest picture of it all - and then Ciro Immobile as the lone striker is amazing - together with marchisio verratti and maybe in the future for you Lorenzo Insigne - I like Cornelius ingame but to be honest he could quicker - that's just me - I really really enjoy Immobile and I can tell you another striker that will do well as the loner - Berardi

The interaction for fm13 is really dying out - and that is a pitty for such a great game, but ofcause their is a new and updated fm coming out every year and people are curious what that's gonna be like, but not me. I enjoy fm13 and can do so for many years or till I buy a newer computer.

For some reason their is copa america again 2016 - I played in the copa america 2015 as well - is it a bug?
Anyway this year its in Brazil - so at home for my team and I will be using the 442 finesse - a funny fact is last time Brazil was host back in the late 80ties they won it - so will be interesting to see if I can continue this tradition - last season I was 3rd with Brazil and I had several bad injuries - Oscar the most prominent injury of them all - he's my right winger and pretty impossible to replace.

Ok guys/mate :) - Yea since you and bwomper are the only ones interacting that's how we communicate :)

Cheers pal
 
I was looking for goalkeeper talents for Brondby and am trying to sign several, but one of them had something very special to say in the information tab - simular type as Costil - so I went to Costil's profile and WTF transfer listed - made an offer a pathetic offer and now this

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Incredible - if I now sign the talent and then Costil I can tutor the talent with Costil - isn't that great :)

This also means that its time to put Casilla to rest and move him on to another adventure :) - Costil is another level of goalkeepers and I find it amazing that Brondby was able to snap him up for hardly anything - oh Jeez hardly anything I said - I get him for free - he haven't negotiated with any club - Roma was interested but never made the offer - incredible - I can also mention that Brondby have signed Nigel de Jong and Carlos Fierro - not a cheat but from RMA - so a cheat haha - Nigel de Jong will also be used as a tutor - the reason for him being in RMA in the first place - Fierro is not good enough for RMA - to many better players and he wanted to go to Brondby when I made an offer - so why not - he will actually have to fight for his place in Brondby - I should show you shouldn't I?

8m pound talent bought at 16/17 years old and were 1st choice in the 1st team

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He started to do above 8 in average the last third of his 1st season - so an extra competition for Fierro for sure.

I could have bought Lukaku for Brondby - which I thought were rediculous - Lukaku though has a bid of 46.5m pounds from Man.u - nothing that Brondby can compete with - their was a beasty Czech striker from watford I could have easily had signed him for peanuts 2.4m pounds Libor Kozak a true tank in its best meaning :)

Just wanted to show you - money means alot I reckon :)

Cheers
 
Man,how did you found so tall players? lol 2,07 its insane!

About my tactic,well,I want to play first a entire season before I upload it. Looks very nice at the moment,but of course,my team its full of great players,so I cant tell you if is a great tactic by itself.

4:40 am here...and have to go to work lol see you later mates ;)
 
Well I'm a night owl 5am here :) - and then I sleep sometimes :)

I think 207cm is a rare occassion - I have seen one player at 208cm - I don't know why these come to me - maybe its the amount of leagues that I use - I don't know.

Doesn't matter bwomper - if it works great then it is great

Two things - the 1st - to all dutch beauties out their - eat it!! :)

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The other thing - Helenius is not a regent - I have been speaking of him before - I actually bought him again and loaned him out to my feeder club Zaragoza and the purchase price was 1.8m pounds - he's now worth 11m pounds - check him out

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A fast update on Juve as you 2 might still be asleep or at least tired lol

Is looking good on the pitch and have just got, to willing to die for, so last 8 league games and CL should show me how good this tactic is as the potential should be showing, but won't see it until tomorrow.

League Table after 30 games

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Fixtures

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Ossis Mandos said:
A fast update on Juve as you 2 might still be asleep or at least tired lol

Is looking good on the pitch and have just got, to willing to die for, so last 8 league games and CL should show me how good this tactic is as the potential should be showing, but won't see it until tomorrow.

League Table after 30 games

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Fixtures

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Its July - no time for sleeping - tour de france - womens tennis at the wimbledon - the sun...Jeeez its hot oh and now its thundering - did i mention scary looking spiders or mosquitos that suck you dry - the last one probably the biggest reason why i'm not sleeping to much in july - I HAVE NO BLOOD LEFT lol

Anyway looking forward to hear how you go - you using attacking movement?

Funny enough I'm in july ingame as well - isn't that a coincident :) -

Brondby Update - Skvorc stays and I'm trying to sign a Bulgarian international central defender + I loaned a RMA defender a dutch wonderkid for 2 years - I got Costil which is amazing - I'm selling Casilla - I got several talented goalkeeper talents - I'm trying to get Adryan and a danish midfielder talent - so basically lots of new players again, but after this I will use the break - meaning not buy for a while in Brondby.

AC Milan - Is almost total Italian except for Halilovic, but I'm very happy with that squad - its a pretty big squad too - I could actually have bought M.Destro for a candy - but I decided I didn't want to bother with it - since I'm using a one striker formation and already have several strikers like Mastour Petagna Immobile and Berardi + talents ofcause - so I found that to be a useless investment if getting Destro.

I once tried to do a journey where I only allowed myself to have danish players - I was Tottenham and it was dreadful :)
I'm a bit more excited doing that with Italian players - obviously more talented than danes - although real life young danes seems to have a high level - u21 euro championship semi final - they sucked though - didn't play well - Sweden won it all - Jeez!!!! - I get the same feeling if not noticing a fly in my food :)

RMA - Sold Khedira and I promoted a very special african regent - defender - he lacks strenght and one mental attribute he's at 12 or something I'll post him up later - if those attributes will raise he will be a superstar - So Sold Javi Martinez to make room for this fella - here he is

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Yes concentration and strenght - I'm gonna put my money on him :)

Around 90m pounds selling Khedira and Martinez and I have nothing to use them for

Along with Stambouli I introduce two very talented regents for the Anchorman position - Again sounds pervy!!!

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Diez is a RMA player developed in the club - Essomba bought - I really like them both and I believe these two will be leading the team in 3 years time.

Ingame Denmark have reached the Euro Semi final - they will play Italy

Alright looking forward to the updates - cheers guys
 
Yes Attacking movement as soon as it hit extremely strong understanding, so previous update onwards.

You keep going Jes, squad is looking good for you with all teams in save and some real potential going forward and I like that
 
Half season report with the new tactic called "TRIDENTE"

First of all,I have a very talented team so I know a lot of tactic can do it well with this team,but I always searching for a nice type of play,and with this tactic my team plays so nice and very ofensive always.

Well,half season results:

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An example of how can do it vs a big team in CL game :

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Some players for some roles :

View attachment 246676 AMR/L and sometimes like a right/left striker

View attachment 246675 The central striker,this player is full development in the team,was tutored by C.Ronaldo to bost his skills to almost the maximun for a big tank centre striker

View attachment 246674 A very nice "Pogba" type of midfielder,in this tactic is less offensive but they can surprise the defense too. An all around player.

View attachment 246673 Libero and CD type,like a libero helps the midfielders.He is like a 3rd DM in attack and like an anchorman (with good anticipation) and CD in defensive dutties.

Now the tactic and how I see how it works on the pitch:

View attachment 246672the formation

View attachment 246671Libero`s zone of action

View attachment 246670CDD`s zone

View attachment 246669the DM`s playground

View attachment 246668AMR/L movements,they go to the mid camp and make a superiority in that zone giving space for the right/left strikers to go to the flanks also. They can dribble a lot and make nice goal passes and score too. Very nice plays from them.

View attachment 246667The strikes go down for the ball and the right/left ones move a lot with their freedom of movements.

The defence of this tactic is just make a destroyer attack. Is for that like I see this tactic like a Frankenstein evolution implementing new roles like the BBM strikers,the Emmerich type AML/R and a kind of libero/anchorman like the central defender.
Im very happy with this tactic right now,but I know the bad times will come lol

cheers mates!!
 
bwomper said:
Half season report with the new tactic called "TRIDENTE"

First of all,I have a very talented team so I know a lot of tactic can do it well with this team,but I always searching for a nice type of play,and with this tactic my team plays so nice and very ofensive always.

Well,half season results:

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An example of how can do it vs a big team in CL game :

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Some players for some roles :

View attachment 902012 AMR/L and sometimes like a right/left striker

View attachment 902014 The central striker,this player is full development in the team,was tutored by C.Ronaldo to bost his skills to almost the maximun for a big tank centre striker

View attachment 902019 A very nice "Pogba" type of midfielder,in this tactic is less offensive but they can surprise the defense too. An all around player.

View attachment 902022 Libero and CD type,like a libero helps the midfielders.He is like a 3rd DM in attack and like an anchorman (with good anticipation) and CD in defensive dutties.

Now the tactic and how I see how it works on the pitch:

View attachment 902023the formation

View attachment 902026Libero`s zone of action

View attachment 902029CDD`s zone

View attachment 902031the DM`s playground

View attachment 902034AMR/L movements,they go to the mid camp and make a superiority in that zone giving space for the right/left strikers to go to the flanks also. They can dribble a lot and make nice goal passes and score too. Very nice plays from them.

View attachment 902037The strikes go down for the ball and the right/left ones move a lot with their freedom of movements.

The defence of this tactic is just make a destroyer attack. Is for that like I see this tactic like a Frankenstein evolution implementing new roles like the BBM strikers,the Emmerich type AML/R and a kind of libero/anchorman like the central defender.
Im very happy with this tactic right now,but I know the bad times will come lol

cheers mates!!
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Nice Illustration!!!

have you tried positioning the wingers futher down like mr/l or even wbl/r? - in my world that would give the poachers more space to work in. Also if using mr/l or wb's i would set run from deep to rare and dribbling often - that would make them charge the opponent defence - and opponent defence would be left for dead more often than not - where as it looks currently opponent can just be guarding their own space - making it more difficult for especially the wide players to penetrate.

Mate I haven't looked at the tactic - just your images - In my experience wide players play better when coming from behind like mr/l or wbl/r maybe cutting inside, but for sure run with ball often + it will give more space for poachers to operate in as well. This is not more defensive - its just a different kind of attacking - almost sneaky cheating the opponent and give more clear cut chances :)

These are just suggestions - I know they work - I suggest them because I think your tactic can be totally perfect - offensively and defensively - its not a BBM suggestion - you should use different type of players in the wide areas - Super dribblers - poachers out wide - just an idea :)

Emmerich is not aml/r - its ml/r :)

Your libero is highly exciting - and opens up for new tactical possibilities for me - what I look at very closely is the average rate of your libero example above - 12apps 7.70 - that's a great performance - so it must be working - does he run with the ball towards the centre mid? or does he become more like a playmaker that spreads out passes to the players in more attacking positions?

Cheers mate

Looking forward to hear more -
 
Update - Costa Rica

Just played Copa America and Costa Rica was in it - what surprised me was some of the quality that they had - and how cheap those players are

I could get these for free - but decided to pay 100k for each - a charity fee :)

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I have better players than these I just couldn't live with these playing for peanuts - I'm planning to loan them out perhaps to another danish team. I highly recommend to look at the Costa Rica national team from time to time - or check out the club called Saprissa - every save is different, but I have a feeling that it happens often.

Cheers
 
I just implemented the Emmerich role to the AMR/L spot.

My intention is give more space to the poachers in the mid camp. The AMR/AML works better for me in that spot to overclock the attack

Now I will try to ilustrate some attacking situations:

View attachment 246486 GK have the ball. You can see how the players are possitioned at the beggining of the ofence. The libero is not bettween the DM but is more avanced than the others CDs. The AMR/L going a little bit down so the strikers as well. The DMs give all this space to the strikers to wait for the ball,run from deep looking for a direct pass to the space,etc...

View attachment 246485 Now the AML got the ball via GK or CD pass. And has different options:

View attachment 246482go to the mid driving the ball and search for good passes to the strikers or to the other flank

View attachment 246480or go to the byline for a long pass to the box or dribbling and be the 4th or 5th (sometimes the other AM is in line with the strikers too) and finish the play with a short pass to a uncover teammate or shot to the goal

An example of that.

[video]https://youtu.be/QZQ_8BH6B_w[/video]
 
bwomper said:
I just implemented the Emmerich role to the AMR/L spot.

My intention is give more space to the poachers in the mid camp. The AMR/AML works better for me in that spot to overclock the attack

Now I will try to ilustrate some attacking situations:

View attachment 902438 GK have the ball. You can see how the players are possitioned at the beggining of the ofence. The libero is not bettween the DM but is more avanced than the others CDs. The AMR/L going a little bit down so the strikers as well. The DMs give all this space to the strikers to wait for the ball,run from deep looking for a direct pass to the space,etc...

View attachment 902440 Now the AML got the ball via GK or CD pass. And has different options:

View attachment 902446go to the mid driving the ball and search for good passes to the strikers or to the other flank

View attachment 902449or go to the byline for a long pass to the box or dribbling and be the 4th or 5th (sometimes the other AM is in line with the strikers too) and finish the play with a short pass to a uncover teammate or shot to the goal

An example of that.

[video]https://youtu.be/QZQ_8BH6B_w[/video]
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Again nice illustration and the video shows winger charge which i like to see - my suggestions above though indicate that this will happen more consistantly - you should try it out - its just moving the players to the ml/r position with the same settings - my point is to perfectionize your formation - not a critisism - just an idea based on - lower sitting players become more dangerous going forward due to match engine lack of cohesion :)

Alot of what you are doing here is inspiring good job mate

Cheers
 
I will try the mr/ml but in other tactics I didnt like it so much. Yeah,will be more balanced in defence of course but I dont know if it will overclock the attack like if they are AMR/L. Its just a point of view and a feeling. And of course I know is not a critisism dont worry about that mate ;)
 
bwomper said:
I will try the mr/ml but in other tactics I didnt like it so much. Yeah,will be more balanced in defence of course but I dont know if it will overclock the attack like if they are AMR/L. Its just a point of view and a feeling. And of course I know is not a critisism dont worry about that mate ;)
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Actually the wingers would get more space to run with the ball - just like in your video - but positioned better for it more often I reckon - Its ok if you feel the other thing works better - to be honest I would actually go so far and say dribbling wingbacks would be the killer option :) - they would still be as far up the pitch as your wingers, but very unpredictable because they run from deep charging the opponents defence - and instead of staying out wide they could cut in to create chaos - basically reversed of BBM where they are more wide - the players should look like Bale and then retrained to wingbacks - wow lol

Keep doing what you are doing mate

Cheers

ps advantage if the wingbacks or any wide player has the ppm - run with ball through centre and run with ball often
 
Finished season with Juve.. Did lose 2 CL games to Man City, both 1-0. Play wise it did look good and defence mistakes seemed to go. Vidal annoys me as he gets booked or sent off every game, well it seems like it to me.

Final Table

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Fixtures from Sampdoria down are with die for each other

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Ossis Mandos said:
Finished season with Juve.. Did lose 2 CL games to Man City, both 1-0. Play wise it did look good and defence mistakes seemed to go. Vidal annoys me as he gets booked or sent off every game, well it seems like it to me.

Final Table

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Fixtures from Sampdoria down are with die for each other

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Vidal - I have given him chances in several different saves - because I absolutely love his attributes - how I want a player in this position to look - but like you - I hate him because he is such a destructive character and I recommend anyone having him to get rid of him immediately - I will go as far to say he will have a very big negative impact on results due to the many cards he get.

Result wise for you - I'm left dissapointed cause I thought this would maybe teach all tactics in the world what a good tactic this is lol - oh well it could be that it was Vidals fault :) - thanks for testing it Ossis

My save is bugged - I can't register players for the different competitions - I have to go into the editor and register them which I have to say is highly annoying - so the save that I currently do is a bit doomed for me I might download a crazy future save and start a new career :)

Ossis you should try bwomper's new tactic :)

Cheers mate
 
Vidal will be sold if I carry on with this save. Will have a look at bwompers tactic and might use it next season in this save or go and have a look at a couple of other saves that might be able to apply more or less from the start. Have a lot of saves at different points of a season, will have to look tomorrow and decide.
 
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